An awful lot has been tossed back and forth about the existence, credibility, and usefulness of Parental Alienation Syndrome, especially by those who feel it diminishes thier cause to accept that PAS exists as a form of insidious child and parent abuse. May I suggest that that particular cause has been myopic with a basis for disagreement in misandry. They base thier rejections on Richard Gardner’s, http://www.rgardner.com, groundbreaking work, where he at an earlier time in his discoveries suggested that ‘women’ are far more often the perpetrators of PAS. These rejectors fail to acknowledge that he later redacted the emphasis on gender postulations and attachments.

Marion Trent demonstrates that behaviors attributable to PAS are among the well defined and classical behavoirs of sociopaths, psychopaths, Narsissists, and folks with Borderline Personality Disorders. It is also then unimportant and useless to devote time to making some determination whether PAS, Parental Alienation (PA), or Hostile Agressive Parenting (HAP) or whatever you want to call it, is gender specific.

And before I leave this I would be remiss not to say more about the misandry that has worked itself into the corridors of government at all levels over the past thrty years, misandry that is confusing issues and becoming a form of abuse itself because of the effects of the intrusions into and involvements with custody issues for parents. As of May 11, 2007, certain so-called advocacy groups like Stop Family Violence, Courageous Kids, and dare I leave out the one which destroyed me and my daughter, Justice for Children, (Houston, Texas; Phoenix, Az; Michigan, and Washington, D.C.), submitted a lawsuit to the Interamerican Commission on Human Rights in commemoration of Mothers Day 2007 of all things, making exactly these sorts of gender-based claims, that men are sexual predators and women always speak the truth especially when there are children between them and the man, the man, the man, the man! claims Parental Alienation (to them the ‘junk science’ concept), as a method of retaliation! Watch the movie “Breaking Silence: Children’s Stories” pulled from the PBS programming last year, because of its sexist basis, for more information about these groups and also the Mary Kaye Foundation (of the Mary Kaye Cosmetics Company), which funded the making of the movie.

May I also direct you to http://www.parental-alienation-awareness.com, http://www.paskids.com, http://www.solutions4pas.com, and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParentsAgainstParentalAlienation

I dedicate this offering to my beautiful daughter with whom I have yet to reunite after being severed from me almost fourteen years ago. I wait for that wonderful day.

“artflgr… so your solution is?”

well it sure isnt to tell her to call him without knowing the facts…

it did register with me, since it was explained in the article and you didnt need ability in insight to ‘get it’… however my point wasnt explained and a person needs some of their own thought to understand it…

I think its you that needs to go back and read the article.. you have a CHILDS view (not because your a child, duh… but because the view is provided by a child)..

a child may know that she is being lied to by her father, but its also pretty good to assume that a young girl isnt told everything about a situation.

even more so, this is true when one parent is trying to make another parent look bad. if she or the other guardian is willing to lie as to the other parents qualities, it sure stands to reason that they would lie about theirs first and more when it comes to makeing an image of the alternative parent.

your analysis is short sighted, as is dr lauras, because she didnt warn the girl to find out if there are OTHER games being played that are common to custody battles.

for instance.. did it not dawn on you that five years is a long time? and that it could be for many reasons? that one of those reasons may be a no contact order of protection against him?

while dr laura picked up on a little something… a good catch, that little somethig does NOTHING to help towards a solution.

you may be 33 donnie, but you write like a 10 year old.. “nuff” for enough, stoopit for stupid, etc..

perhaps i see a link there too…

we also dont know if the manipulative person is actually telling the truth and is being manipulative for a reason… (since being that way is actually more acceptable to many than explaining the truth about it)

we know nothing about the situation other than the clever little hook of paying attention to freudian slips and things and to actually think about what people are saying and the context and their abiliteis… not just accept what they say.

there is no clear cut answer here because your talking abotu a minor… its less clear becasue you dont know if the bad mouthing was because he is a bad person, or because the bad mouther is a bad person. you dont know whether tehre are any extenuating circumstances (orders of protection, STDs, etc)…

i will say that perhaps you have had a problem because you didnt follow your own advice!!

can’t stop stoopit people from being stoopit. don’t make babies and don’t get married. nuff siad.

however there is one thing that is totally clear here… the Doc has not a real clue of all the issues here and what goes on… otherwise she wouldnt have thought her simple answer would have been good…

the problem i have with those that give advice… is taht you dont hear how it turned out, and that they can freely experiment in others lives, cause profound misery, and have no repurcussions or anythnig that might impinge them from doing it again.

balancing on a razor blade burning a candle at both ends isnt exactly supportive or taking a side… its more like your career is defined by your ability to wade through the minefield, making more if you dont blow up from one gaffe or another, regardless of sides. in this case she gave out info that sounds great to all those people out there in radio land.. and the reason she did was that she had the girl there, and to say anythign else woudl sound that she was discounting the personal story of a woman… meanwhile if the mother called and talked i would also have no doubt that she would work the solution the same way… not for fathers rigths, or such… but to answer that small situation with the answer that allows her not to blow up… even if that answer will be contradictory to what she just told that girl.

too many people and such are playing around in too many other lives…