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		<title>By: MerelyMortalMale</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/08/17/lincoln-memorial-evacuated-as-f4j-breach-us-security/comment-page-1/#comment-50437</link>
		<dc:creator>MerelyMortalMale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurrah for F4J! 

For 40 years most men, especially in America, did little or nothing to save themselves, their families, or their children. Things were never &quot;bad enough&quot; for so-called “honorable” men to actually do anything. They talked tough, but acted like twits. 

Feminists proposed bills and men’s groups bailed. They never showed up to protest injustice. When unfair, misandric bills became law men’s groups acted like Martians had created them, not women who wanted things and guys who took powders. 

Soon feminists were teaching women how to twist men around their fingers. There was no need to be fair or even honest. Whatever women’s groups alleged, men’s groups responded to by being mute doormats. It was if irate nannies knocked on doors, opened them, then took the most valued possessions a man had (his kids!)…and he did nothing.

Feminists forbade men to say or DO anything that smacked of emotion. They knew guys who expressed feeling might some day act on them. So they enjoined men&#039;s group leaders to shame men into silence...and they former dutifully agreed. Year after year s0-called leaders bamboozled their memberships by submitting lame bills to legislators, pretending that did something. They were repeatedly told by politicians that their groups needed to appear regularly in media and show strength-in-numbers (of eligible voters!). If they didn&#039;t do that, nothing would change. 

So nothing changed, save to worsen. Instead of mastering mass media, men&#039;s groups chose to stay mute. 

At one point men headed literally &quot;for the hills&quot; to beat drums (and hasty retreats from harridan hordes). They became ever-more meek “new men.” They exchanged penises for “talking sticks,&quot; bonding in sweat lodges. They seemed to forget what happened to Native Americans who failed to master modern ways.

Individual men were left to fight ever-more powerful feminist armies alone. It became acceptable to the non-moving men&#039;s movement that each divorced dad was to pay $100,000 to lawyers to TRY to see their own children...usually losing. 
Millions of fathers were told to accept “legal custody” arrangements that were dad-ectomies, effectively making them cyber-fathers. 

A generation of kids grew up without fathers. The consequences are just beginning to be felt in terms of gangs, violence, dumbed-down educational systems, etc.

Meanwhile, women learned they could make false accusations and have the government step in as Big Daddy. Divorced fathers got the shaft (support orders) while divorced mothers got the kids, car, cash and castle. 

Four year old boys, hearing of such arrangements, would react. They&#039;d instinctively know such deals stink. They get outraged at injustices. Forty year old men, on the other hand, just shrug their shoulders, pay bills, work, and watch TV. Little seems to get them riled except sports.

Too sad.

After a while you start to suspect that maybe feminists were right. After all, who wants kids to be around fathers so emasculated, so robotic, so passive that even repeating smashing of their testicles on feminist anvils causes no reaction? Such men aren’t male. They&#039;re not even mice. They&#039;re mutant eunuchs.

So, again, kudos to F4J. They &quot;get&quot; that you have to fight fire with fire. They know the public expects people suffering from injustices to SHOW anger....not issue mealy-mouthed mewlings. Outrage is usually measured by the degree to which the harmed person/group is willing to raise a stink. Men unwilling to face ridicule or jail to protect their kids are not fathers. They are farces. 

Any group expecting to be heard in the Media Age must master mass media techniques. Political candidates know this. Those who don’t, or refuse to fight false allegations, lose.

Some will say that the F4J demonstrators went overboard. I disagree. Strongly. Four decades of &quot;being nice&quot; has netted men nothing. 

As for the target and timing: Perfect! The Lincoln Memorial embodies the idea of equality. And in post-911 times, the arrests guarantee international buzz. Who cares if feminists or their ilk don’t like F4J? Millions of downtrodden men/fathers now know about a group willing to do more than cogitate. Maybe they, too, will learn to grown (and show!) some balls. Hopefully they will “get” how to promote their issues. Men&#039;s groups who continue clueless, chronically inept ways will make fatherhood defunct. Then, more’s the pity.

As it stands now, there are NO effective men&#039;s groups in America. None. Zip. Nada. They are all shams, every one. They have &quot;offices&quot; in Washington, DC, for example, that are really just mailboxes in California. Groups that claim to be “international” are really just 50 guys, a fax, and some stationery. Pitiful. It’s like watching a Red Army of feminists face off against Boy Scouts with slingshots, water balloons, and flatulence.

Any male reaching out to such groups learns they just want his dues. When it comes to court matters or doing anything effective, they&#039;re on their own.

In essence, men&#039;s groups are agents of feminism. They teach guys to be compliant, docile, and accepting of their lot. Most are led by men who lost their own kids...and want other men to suffer the same fate. The only time they get upset is when someone points out how useless and inept they are. 

Oh well.

I look forward to more F4J-like efforts by men with penises who are unashamedly proud of having them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurrah for F4J! </p>
<p>For 40 years most men, especially in America, did little or nothing to save themselves, their families, or their children. Things were never &#8220;bad enough&#8221; for so-called “honorable” men to actually do anything. They talked tough, but acted like twits. </p>
<p>Feminists proposed bills and men’s groups bailed. They never showed up to protest injustice. When unfair, misandric bills became law men’s groups acted like Martians had created them, not women who wanted things and guys who took powders. </p>
<p>Soon feminists were teaching women how to twist men around their fingers. There was no need to be fair or even honest. Whatever women’s groups alleged, men’s groups responded to by being mute doormats. It was if irate nannies knocked on doors, opened them, then took the most valued possessions a man had (his kids!)…and he did nothing.</p>
<p>Feminists forbade men to say or DO anything that smacked of emotion. They knew guys who expressed feeling might some day act on them. So they enjoined men&#8217;s group leaders to shame men into silence&#8230;and they former dutifully agreed. Year after year s0-called leaders bamboozled their memberships by submitting lame bills to legislators, pretending that did something. They were repeatedly told by politicians that their groups needed to appear regularly in media and show strength-in-numbers (of eligible voters!). If they didn&#8217;t do that, nothing would change. </p>
<p>So nothing changed, save to worsen. Instead of mastering mass media, men&#8217;s groups chose to stay mute. </p>
<p>At one point men headed literally &#8220;for the hills&#8221; to beat drums (and hasty retreats from harridan hordes). They became ever-more meek “new men.” They exchanged penises for “talking sticks,&#8221; bonding in sweat lodges. They seemed to forget what happened to Native Americans who failed to master modern ways.</p>
<p>Individual men were left to fight ever-more powerful feminist armies alone. It became acceptable to the non-moving men&#8217;s movement that each divorced dad was to pay $100,000 to lawyers to TRY to see their own children&#8230;usually losing.<br />
Millions of fathers were told to accept “legal custody” arrangements that were dad-ectomies, effectively making them cyber-fathers. </p>
<p>A generation of kids grew up without fathers. The consequences are just beginning to be felt in terms of gangs, violence, dumbed-down educational systems, etc.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, women learned they could make false accusations and have the government step in as Big Daddy. Divorced fathers got the shaft (support orders) while divorced mothers got the kids, car, cash and castle. </p>
<p>Four year old boys, hearing of such arrangements, would react. They&#8217;d instinctively know such deals stink. They get outraged at injustices. Forty year old men, on the other hand, just shrug their shoulders, pay bills, work, and watch TV. Little seems to get them riled except sports.</p>
<p>Too sad.</p>
<p>After a while you start to suspect that maybe feminists were right. After all, who wants kids to be around fathers so emasculated, so robotic, so passive that even repeating smashing of their testicles on feminist anvils causes no reaction? Such men aren’t male. They&#8217;re not even mice. They&#8217;re mutant eunuchs.</p>
<p>So, again, kudos to F4J. They &#8220;get&#8221; that you have to fight fire with fire. They know the public expects people suffering from injustices to SHOW anger&#8230;.not issue mealy-mouthed mewlings. Outrage is usually measured by the degree to which the harmed person/group is willing to raise a stink. Men unwilling to face ridicule or jail to protect their kids are not fathers. They are farces. </p>
<p>Any group expecting to be heard in the Media Age must master mass media techniques. Political candidates know this. Those who don’t, or refuse to fight false allegations, lose.</p>
<p>Some will say that the F4J demonstrators went overboard. I disagree. Strongly. Four decades of &#8220;being nice&#8221; has netted men nothing. </p>
<p>As for the target and timing: Perfect! The Lincoln Memorial embodies the idea of equality. And in post-911 times, the arrests guarantee international buzz. Who cares if feminists or their ilk don’t like F4J? Millions of downtrodden men/fathers now know about a group willing to do more than cogitate. Maybe they, too, will learn to grown (and show!) some balls. Hopefully they will “get” how to promote their issues. Men&#8217;s groups who continue clueless, chronically inept ways will make fatherhood defunct. Then, more’s the pity.</p>
<p>As it stands now, there are NO effective men&#8217;s groups in America. None. Zip. Nada. They are all shams, every one. They have &#8220;offices&#8221; in Washington, DC, for example, that are really just mailboxes in California. Groups that claim to be “international” are really just 50 guys, a fax, and some stationery. Pitiful. It’s like watching a Red Army of feminists face off against Boy Scouts with slingshots, water balloons, and flatulence.</p>
<p>Any male reaching out to such groups learns they just want his dues. When it comes to court matters or doing anything effective, they&#8217;re on their own.</p>
<p>In essence, men&#8217;s groups are agents of feminism. They teach guys to be compliant, docile, and accepting of their lot. Most are led by men who lost their own kids&#8230;and want other men to suffer the same fate. The only time they get upset is when someone points out how useless and inept they are. </p>
<p>Oh well.</p>
<p>I look forward to more F4J-like efforts by men with penises who are unashamedly proud of having them.</p>
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		<title>By: tom of covent garden</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom of covent garden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just done a google news search, and MND is the only website reporting the event, even though it happened yesterday. F4J will have to step it up to get coverage stateside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just done a google news search, and MND is the only website reporting the event, even though it happened yesterday. F4J will have to step it up to get coverage stateside.</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shock, Horror! Security has been breached. Shoot someone. Mass arrests by MEN!! (tm) in black. Open a new block at Guantanamo. These uppity fathers just don&#039;t know their place.

Well done Jolly. What a name for a dad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shock, Horror! Security has been breached. Shoot someone. Mass arrests by MEN!! &#8482; in black. Open a new block at Guantanamo. These uppity fathers just don&#8217;t know their place.</p>
<p>Well done Jolly. What a name for a dad.</p>
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		<title>By: mruffolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mruffolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome.</p>
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