Comments on: ‘Visitation is automatically stopped once a telephone report is made..from any source, alleging sexual abuse…No questions asked–the caller remains anonymous’   http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/08/19/visitation-is-automatically-stopped-once-a-telephone-report-is-madefrom-any-source-alleging-sexual-abuseno-questions-asked-the-caller-remains-anonymous-%c2%a0/ Men's Rights Activism, MRA Politics, Analysis, Commentary and Global News Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:52:01 -1000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Robert Stevens http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/08/19/visitation-is-automatically-stopped-once-a-telephone-report-is-madefrom-any-source-alleging-sexual-abuseno-questions-asked-the-caller-remains-anonymous-%c2%a0/comment-page-1/#comment-50412 Robert Stevens Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:37:57 +0000 http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1044#comment-50412 More quickly every day the window to stop this man hating bias with a lawful and peaceful methods is closing. What these hate filled idiots do not understand is that once peaceful and lawful method are gone, then it will get ugly. Force will have to be used, the men will win, but not without great pain and suffering. I just hope if this does happen that most of the pain and suffering that will be done, will by the idiots that concocted this little rebellion. I believe when the forces of tyranny and opression cross a certain threshold, they can no longer be " straightened out" , they are totally corrupt and being taken out is the only thing we can do with them. Like a convicted murderer on death row waiting to go to the electric chair, they will kick and scream and say it is not fair that they are going to be punished for what they done. Well its not really punishment it more like taking out the trash or puting a bullet in a rabid dog brain. All reasonable and peacefull methods have been exhausted and not we have to get tough and come down hard on the bastards. More quickly every day the window to stop this man hating bias with a lawful and peaceful methods is closing. What these hate filled idiots do not understand is that once peaceful and lawful method are gone, then it will get ugly. Force will have to be used, the men will win, but not without great pain and suffering. I just hope if this does happen that most of the pain and suffering that will be done, will by the idiots that concocted this little rebellion.
I believe when the forces of tyranny and opression cross a certain threshold, they can no longer be ” straightened out” , they are totally corrupt and being taken out is the only thing we can do with them. Like a convicted murderer on death row waiting to go to the electric chair, they will kick and scream and say it is not fair that they are going to be punished for what they done. Well its not really punishment it more like taking out the trash or puting a bullet in a rabid dog brain. All reasonable and peacefull methods have been exhausted and not we have to get tough and come down hard on the bastards.

]]> By: mruffolo http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/08/19/visitation-is-automatically-stopped-once-a-telephone-report-is-madefrom-any-source-alleging-sexual-abuseno-questions-asked-the-caller-remains-anonymous-%c2%a0/comment-page-1/#comment-50401 mruffolo Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:24:10 +0000 http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1044#comment-50401 Feminism is deeply entrenched in legislation and law. After reading a few of these bills, it is doubtful that ordinary, working stiffs who are fathers have a chance to be a part of the family for this generation. RESOLUTION Supporting the goals and ideals of National Domestic Violence Awareness Month and expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that Congress should raise awareness of domestic violence in the United States and its devastating effects on families and communities. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:5:./temp/~c110s9G7TC:: Feminism is deeply entrenched in legislation and law. After reading a few of these bills, it is doubtful that ordinary, working stiffs who are fathers have a chance to be a part of the family for this generation.

RESOLUTION

Supporting the goals and ideals of National Domestic Violence Awareness Month and expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that Congress should raise awareness of domestic violence in the United States and its devastating effects on families and communities.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:5:./temp/~c110s9G7TC::

]]> By: mruffolo http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/08/19/visitation-is-automatically-stopped-once-a-telephone-report-is-madefrom-any-source-alleging-sexual-abuseno-questions-asked-the-caller-remains-anonymous-%c2%a0/comment-page-1/#comment-50400 mruffolo Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:15:25 +0000 http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1044#comment-50400 If you search legislative information for all bills in congress with "violence" in them, then the result are dozens of bills to "protect" children and women from men. For example Domestic Violence Victim Protection Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.203.IH] Whereas one in four women will experience domestic violence sometime in her life; (Introduced in House)[H.RES.590.IH] Violence Against Children Act of 2007 (Introduced in Senate)[S.1296.IS] Whereas Guatemalan women were among the victims during the 36-year Guatemalan internal armed conflict which ended with the signing of the 1996 Peace Accords and ushered in the process... (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.RES.100.EH] Safe Schools Improvement Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)[H.R.3132.IH] National Domestic Violence Volunteer Attorney Network Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.1515.IS] Family and Medical Leave Expansion Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.1369.IH] Pregnant Women Support Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.3192.IH] Violence Against Immigrant Women Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)[H.R.2388.IH] Responsible Fatherhood and Healthy Families Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)[H.R.3395.IH] Whereas there are more 3,000,000,000 women in the world, representing 49.7 percent of the world's population; (Agreed to by Senate)[S.RES.102.ATS] http://thomas.loc.gov If you search legislative information for all bills in congress with “violence” in them, then the result are dozens of bills to “protect” children and women from men.

For example

Domestic Violence Victim Protection Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.203.IH]
Whereas one in four women will experience domestic violence sometime in her life; (Introduced in House)[H.RES.590.IH]
Violence Against Children Act of 2007 (Introduced in Senate)[S.1296.IS]
Whereas Guatemalan women were among the victims during the 36-year Guatemalan internal armed conflict which ended with the signing of the 1996 Peace Accords and ushered in the process… (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.RES.100.EH]
Safe Schools Improvement Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)[H.R.3132.IH]
National Domestic Violence Volunteer Attorney Network Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.1515.IS]
Family and Medical Leave Expansion Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.1369.IH]
Pregnant Women Support Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.3192.IH]
Violence Against Immigrant Women Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)[H.R.2388.IH]
Responsible Fatherhood and Healthy Families Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)[H.R.3395.IH]
Whereas there are more 3,000,000,000 women in the world, representing 49.7 percent of the world’s population; (Agreed to by Senate)[S.RES.102.ATS]

http://thomas.loc.gov

]]> By: DcFather2 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/08/19/visitation-is-automatically-stopped-once-a-telephone-report-is-madefrom-any-source-alleging-sexual-abuseno-questions-asked-the-caller-remains-anonymous-%c2%a0/comment-page-1/#comment-50393 DcFather2 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:56:22 +0000 http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1044#comment-50393 And why does this guilty until proven innocent "law" apply only to parents with "visitation"? Is that code for "fathers only"? And what happens if there are anonymous or non-anonymous allegations of sexual abuse against the "custodial" parent (mother), say for instance coming from the child who is being molested, and there is along list of professional witnesses, instead of one anonymous caller? What if, in addition to allegations from a child against the custodial parent (mother), and a long list of witnesses, the custodial parent (mother) also has a family history of incest and pedophilia, including a brother in prison for it? Wait, don't answer, I already know the answer. Been there, done that. The allegations against the mother get swept underneath the rug, and a witch hunt against the father ensues. No, they probably won't accuse the father of doing what the mother is doing, because then the evidence against the mother is more likely to be admissable. But they'll find something, anything, and proving his innocence won't help the father either. My ex-wife lied in court a hundred times in an effort to prevent me from ever seeing the children again. How did she finally succeed? By molesting them. That's right, mom molests, they get rid of dad for being dumb enough to let the child report it to "Child Protective Services". What we have now in America is a government that upholds a mother's right to molest children as being superior to basic settled fundamental laws set forth at the dawn of this once great but now thoroughly corrupt nation. Anybody who actually believes this law is designed to protect children deserves to live in the ghetto that is our future. Unfortunately, its the children along with innocent fathers who will suffer the most, while the special interest groups like the ABA and NOW who profit from the criminalization of fatherhood will laugh all the way to the bank, and then follow that up with a hefty campaign contribution to the policiticans who are pimping out our children, like these Florida legislators. And why does this guilty until proven innocent “law” apply only to parents with “visitation”?

Is that code for “fathers only”?

And what happens if there are anonymous or non-anonymous allegations of sexual abuse against the “custodial” parent (mother), say for instance coming from the child who is being molested, and there is along list of professional witnesses, instead of one anonymous caller? What if, in addition to allegations from a child against the custodial parent (mother), and a long list of witnesses, the custodial parent (mother) also has a family history of incest and pedophilia, including a brother in prison for it?

Wait, don’t answer, I already know the answer. Been there, done that. The allegations against the mother get swept underneath the rug, and a witch hunt against the father ensues. No, they probably won’t accuse the father of doing what the mother is doing, because then the evidence against the mother is more likely to be admissable. But they’ll find something, anything, and proving his innocence won’t help the father either.

My ex-wife lied in court a hundred times in an effort to prevent me from ever seeing the children again. How did she finally succeed? By molesting them. That’s right, mom molests, they get rid of dad for being dumb enough to let the child report it to “Child Protective Services”.

What we have now in America is a government that upholds a mother’s right to molest children as being superior to basic settled fundamental laws set forth at the dawn of this once great but now thoroughly corrupt nation. Anybody who actually believes this law is designed to protect children deserves to live in the ghetto that is our future. Unfortunately, its the children along with innocent fathers who will suffer the most, while the special interest groups like the ABA and NOW who profit from the criminalization of fatherhood will laugh all the way to the bank, and then follow that up with a hefty campaign contribution to the policiticans who are pimping out our children, like these Florida legislators.

]]> By: TheManOnTheStreet http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/08/19/visitation-is-automatically-stopped-once-a-telephone-report-is-madefrom-any-source-alleging-sexual-abuseno-questions-asked-the-caller-remains-anonymous-%c2%a0/comment-page-1/#comment-50387 TheManOnTheStreet Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:23:05 +0000 http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1044#comment-50387 Really sickening when the burden of proof (or lack thereof) is placed upon the accused in situations like this. Even if a father is absolved of all accounts of allegedness (is that a word), the stigma is in place. He will almost assuredly be considered a monster by SOMEONE...SOMEWHERE.... especially if the media gets its hands on it... TMOTS Really sickening when the burden of proof (or lack thereof) is placed upon the accused in situations like this.

Even if a father is absolved of all accounts of allegedness (is that a word), the stigma is in place. He will almost assuredly be considered a monster by SOMEONE…SOMEWHERE…. especially if the media gets its hands on it…

TMOTS

]]> By: CaptDMO http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/08/19/visitation-is-automatically-stopped-once-a-telephone-report-is-madefrom-any-source-alleging-sexual-abuseno-questions-asked-the-caller-remains-anonymous-%c2%a0/comment-page-1/#comment-50384 CaptDMO Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:12:48 +0000 http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1044#comment-50384 Where's the part IN THIS PIECE that says- This bill was introduced by .....Name, district, office address This section was written by.... Author Testimony was given by...... "Expert"/ dupe At the behest of..... Fla. constituency front-group It was added at THIS time... Inception, after introduction, "clerical' correction, etc. The voting record is HERE.... Complete Fla. Legislative voting record site, or at least the record on this bill/law. Where’s the part IN THIS PIECE that says-

This bill was introduced by …..Name, district, office address
This section was written by…. Author
Testimony was given by…… “Expert”/ dupe
At the behest of….. Fla. constituency front-group
It was added at THIS time… Inception, after introduction, “clerical’ correction, etc.
The voting record is HERE…. Complete Fla. Legislative voting record site, or at least
the record on this bill/law.

]]> By: amfortas http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/08/19/visitation-is-automatically-stopped-once-a-telephone-report-is-madefrom-any-source-alleging-sexual-abuseno-questions-asked-the-caller-remains-anonymous-%c2%a0/comment-page-1/#comment-50381 amfortas Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:11:07 +0000 http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1044#comment-50381 Bad laws take forever to repeal. The amount of damage that can be done before all the stps are taken - if they are at all - is horrendous. And of course, damage done cannot be undone. The people who bring in these laws, and as you point out, sneak them in the back door, deserve absolutly no mercy. They deliberately wreck lives. They do it in an underhand way. They get others to do it for them. Their hatred knows no bounds and each 'win' that they achieve is added to the last one and the next one. Maybe the good folk of Florida could each choose a politician and make an anonymous call. Bad laws take forever to repeal. The amount of damage that can be done before all the stps are taken – if they are at all – is horrendous. And of course, damage done cannot be undone.

The people who bring in these laws, and as you point out, sneak them in the back door, deserve absolutly no mercy. They deliberately wreck lives. They do it in an underhand way. They get others to do it for them. Their hatred knows no bounds and each ‘win’ that they achieve is added to the last one and the next one.

Maybe the good folk of Florida could each choose a politician and make an anonymous call.

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