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		<title>By: mruffolo</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/08/20/pc-feminism-and-the-dv-courts/comment-page-1/#comment-50456</link>
		<dc:creator>mruffolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marxist theory was explained well for me, as I have not heard before. It was clear and made sense.

The definition of words like &quot;Domestic Abuse&quot; and &quot;power of father&quot;  that the feminist authors offer do not match the government&#039;s law enforcement&#039;s or does it match the laws language, nor the policy and procedure in Family Court.

There is difference in academics theory and what is practiced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marxist theory was explained well for me, as I have not heard before. It was clear and made sense.</p>
<p>The definition of words like &#8220;Domestic Abuse&#8221; and &#8220;power of father&#8221;  that the feminist authors offer do not match the government&#8217;s law enforcement&#8217;s or does it match the laws language, nor the policy and procedure in Family Court.</p>
<p>There is difference in academics theory and what is practiced.</p>
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		<title>By: PolishKnight</title>
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		<dc:creator>PolishKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn you Denis!  You got your claws in feminist apologist Cathy Young first!  But if you don&#039;t mind I would like second pickin&#039;s at this carcass:

&lt;i&gt;As Cathy Young states in her book Ceasefire: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, we owe a lot to the feminists of the past. “They deserve credit for helping break down the barriers of discrimination in the public arena&lt;/i&gt;

Er, no.  At best, feminists ONLY broke down &quot;barriers of discrimination&quot; for a certain class of WOMEN (that&#039;s why it&#039;s called FEMINism!)  They disingenuously claimed to want to tear down barriers against men but those were always viewed as low priority while any form of discrimination against women had to be acted against (turn up the volume) NOW!  

&lt;i&gt;; for making gender neutrality an accepted legal principle; &lt;/i&gt;

This is such a total laugh.  Whenever feminists created &quot;gender neutral&quot; language, it was always addressed at situations that benefitted women (alimony as &quot;compensation&quot; rather than just protecting divorced housewives) or abortion rights (which favor women) while overlooking &quot;child-support&quot; laws that target mostly men.  

And this was all BEFORE it turned outright ugly but the fact is that their agenda was plain to see from the beginning.

&lt;i&gt;for challenging stereotypes about women’s nature. &lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ll agree that the feminists of the past were heroically portrayed as striving for equality, etc. but most women really never wanted it and consequently these women realized that they would be lone martyrs.  So they just sought to bash men rather than ask women to join them in picking up the dinner check.

Thanks to them, achievement and ambition are no longer considered unfeminine 

Yes, greed and averice are now feminist traits.  Congratulations!  We now see women CEO&#039;s dumping toxic waste into schoolyard water fountains in the pursuit of the almighty dollar.  Thanks to feminism, women have embraced the worst materialistic and power hungry natures of men.

But feminists still haven&#039;t embraced the side of men that built civilization: supporting and protecting two parent families.

&lt;i&gt;and women are expected to make something of themselves, not just marry.&lt;/i&gt;

And now many of these women who &quot;make something of themselves&quot; CANNOT marry because they can&#039;t find men who earn at least as much as they do (I nicknamed them the &quot;at leasters&quot;)

They often get to die childless as a failed Darwinistic experiement.

&lt;i&gt; Thanks to them, most of us believe that both parents can nurture young children.”&lt;/i&gt;

This is outright false.  Feminists have done their best, and successfully, to push fathers out of the home and schoolyard and even to make women into rotten mothers dumping their children into daycare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn you Denis!  You got your claws in feminist apologist Cathy Young first!  But if you don&#8217;t mind I would like second pickin&#8217;s at this carcass:</p>
<p><i>As Cathy Young states in her book Ceasefire: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, we owe a lot to the feminists of the past. “They deserve credit for helping break down the barriers of discrimination in the public arena</i></p>
<p>Er, no.  At best, feminists ONLY broke down &#8220;barriers of discrimination&#8221; for a certain class of WOMEN (that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s called FEMINism!)  They disingenuously claimed to want to tear down barriers against men but those were always viewed as low priority while any form of discrimination against women had to be acted against (turn up the volume) NOW!  </p>
<p><i>; for making gender neutrality an accepted legal principle; </i></p>
<p>This is such a total laugh.  Whenever feminists created &#8220;gender neutral&#8221; language, it was always addressed at situations that benefitted women (alimony as &#8220;compensation&#8221; rather than just protecting divorced housewives) or abortion rights (which favor women) while overlooking &#8220;child-support&#8221; laws that target mostly men.  </p>
<p>And this was all BEFORE it turned outright ugly but the fact is that their agenda was plain to see from the beginning.</p>
<p><i>for challenging stereotypes about women’s nature. </i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll agree that the feminists of the past were heroically portrayed as striving for equality, etc. but most women really never wanted it and consequently these women realized that they would be lone martyrs.  So they just sought to bash men rather than ask women to join them in picking up the dinner check.</p>
<p>Thanks to them, achievement and ambition are no longer considered unfeminine </p>
<p>Yes, greed and averice are now feminist traits.  Congratulations!  We now see women CEO&#8217;s dumping toxic waste into schoolyard water fountains in the pursuit of the almighty dollar.  Thanks to feminism, women have embraced the worst materialistic and power hungry natures of men.</p>
<p>But feminists still haven&#8217;t embraced the side of men that built civilization: supporting and protecting two parent families.</p>
<p><i>and women are expected to make something of themselves, not just marry.</i></p>
<p>And now many of these women who &#8220;make something of themselves&#8221; CANNOT marry because they can&#8217;t find men who earn at least as much as they do (I nicknamed them the &#8220;at leasters&#8221;)</p>
<p>They often get to die childless as a failed Darwinistic experiement.</p>
<p><i> Thanks to them, most of us believe that both parents can nurture young children.”</i></p>
<p>This is outright false.  Feminists have done their best, and successfully, to push fathers out of the home and schoolyard and even to make women into rotten mothers dumping their children into daycare.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;for making gender neutrality an accepted legal principle&quot;

Give me a break. What gender neutrality? The legal principles are now a bedrock of legal preference and superior rights.

&quot;and women are expected to make something of themselves, not just marry.&quot;

So how is a marriage movement expected to solve men&#039;s problems if women including this author view marriage as a low-class  occupation (albeit with a mega lottery windfall anytime she chooses)?

&quot;Thanks to them, most of us believe that both parents can nurture young children.” 

Get real. Father&#039;s are seen as abusers and future abusers.

The bottom line is that when you connect the dots PC feminism is the bastard child of feminism. Modern feminism started from the Women&#039;s KKK in the 1880&#039;s. 

From November 2005:

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2005/11/19/margaret-sanger-more-feminist-hate/

Feminism Lite was first sold to establish a political footing. Once that happened it&#039;s true colors were safely shown and PC feminism was, and always has been, the ultimate aim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;for making gender neutrality an accepted legal principle&#8221;</p>
<p>Give me a break. What gender neutrality? The legal principles are now a bedrock of legal preference and superior rights.</p>
<p>&#8220;and women are expected to make something of themselves, not just marry.&#8221;</p>
<p>So how is a marriage movement expected to solve men&#8217;s problems if women including this author view marriage as a low-class  occupation (albeit with a mega lottery windfall anytime she chooses)?</p>
<p>&#8220;Thanks to them, most of us believe that both parents can nurture young children.” </p>
<p>Get real. Father&#8217;s are seen as abusers and future abusers.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that when you connect the dots PC feminism is the bastard child of feminism. Modern feminism started from the Women&#8217;s KKK in the 1880&#8217;s. </p>
<p>From November 2005:</p>
<p><a href="http://mensnewsdaily.com/2005/11/19/margaret-sanger-more-feminist-hate/" rel="nofollow">http://mensnewsdaily.com/2005/11/19/margaret-sanger-more-feminist-hate/</a></p>
<p>Feminism Lite was first sold to establish a political footing. Once that happened it&#8217;s true colors were safely shown and PC feminism was, and always has been, the ultimate aim.</p>
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		<title>By: college activist</title>
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		<dc:creator>college activist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>communism and fascism are both totalitarian forms of government and are easy to mix up when comparing the two!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>communism and fascism are both totalitarian forms of government and are easy to mix up when comparing the two!!</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MOST up-to-date study of DV was published just a few days ago. Every man should have it cut and pasted to file and printed off to carry in his wallet.

Here it is. Note the date and the publication. Note the numbers (I have put asterisks next to important points).

Men Shouldn&#039;t Be Overlooked as Victims of Partner Violence.

Joan Arehart-Treichel &#124; Psychiatric News &#124; August 3, 2007

In addressing intimate partner violence, the focus is usually on women who are physically battered by husbands or boyfriends. However, women sometimes hurt their partners as well. 

Women are doing virtually everything these days that men are—working as doctors, lawyers, and rocket scientists; flying helicopters in combat; riding horses in the Kentucky Derby. And physically assaulting their spouses or partners. 

In fact, when it comes to nonreciprocal violence between intimate partners, women are more often the perpetrators. 

These findings on intimate partner violence come from a study conducted by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The lead investigator was Daniel Whitaker, Ph.D., a behavioral scientist and team leader at the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control (which is part of the CDC). Results were published in the May Journal of Public Health. 

In 2001, the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health attempted to amass data about the health of a nationally representative sample of 14,322 individuals between the ages of 18 and 28. The study also asked subjects to answer questions about romantic or sexual relationships in which they had engaged during the previous five years and whether those relationships had involved violence. 

Of those subjects, 11,370 reported having had heterosexual relationships and also provided answers to the violence-related questions. So Whitaker and his colleagues decided to use the responses from these 11,370 subjects for a study into how much violence is experienced in intimate heterosexual partner relationships, who the instigators are, and whether physical harm accrues from the violence. 

The 11,370 subjects, Whitaker and his colleagues found, reported on 18,761 relationships, of which 76 percent had been nonviolent and 24 percent violent. 

That almost a quarter of the subjects had engaged in violent relationships may seem high to some people, but &quot;the rates we found are similar to those of other studies of late adolescents and young adults, a time period when interpersonal-violence rates are at their highest,&quot; Whitaker told Psychiatric News. Also, he added, &quot;these rates demonstrate the magnitude of interpersonal violence as a health and social problem.&quot; 

Furthermore, Whitaker discovered, of the 24 percent of relationships that had been violent, half had been reciprocal and half had not. Although more men than women (53 percent versus 49 percent) had **experienced** nonreciprocal violent relationships, more women than men (52 percent versus 47 percent) had **taken part **in ones involving reciprocal violence. 

Regarding perpetration of violence, **more women than men** (*25 percent versus *11 percent) were responsible.

In fact, *71 percent of the instigators in nonreciprocal partner violence were women. 

This finding surprised Whitaker and his colleagues, they admitted in their study report. 

As for physical injury due to intimate partner violence, it was more likely to occur when the violence was reciprocal than nonreciprocal. And while injury was more likely when violence was perpetrated by men, in relationships with reciprocal violence **it was the men who were injured more often ** (25 percent of the time) than were women (20 percent of the time). 

&quot;This is important as violence perpetrated by women is often seen as not serious,&quot; Whitaker and his group stressed. 

Of the study&#039;s numerous findings, Whitaker said, &quot;I think the most important is that a great deal of interpersonal violence is reciprocally perpetrated and that when it is reciprocally perpetrated, it is much more likely to result in injury than when perpetrated by only one partner.&quot; 

The National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, upon which this investigation was based, was funded by the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development with co-funding from 17 other federal agencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MOST up-to-date study of DV was published just a few days ago. Every man should have it cut and pasted to file and printed off to carry in his wallet.</p>
<p>Here it is. Note the date and the publication. Note the numbers (I have put asterisks next to important points).</p>
<p>Men Shouldn&#8217;t Be Overlooked as Victims of Partner Violence.</p>
<p>Joan Arehart-Treichel | Psychiatric News | August 3, 2007</p>
<p>In addressing intimate partner violence, the focus is usually on women who are physically battered by husbands or boyfriends. However, women sometimes hurt their partners as well. </p>
<p>Women are doing virtually everything these days that men are—working as doctors, lawyers, and rocket scientists; flying helicopters in combat; riding horses in the Kentucky Derby. And physically assaulting their spouses or partners. </p>
<p>In fact, when it comes to nonreciprocal violence between intimate partners, women are more often the perpetrators. </p>
<p>These findings on intimate partner violence come from a study conducted by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The lead investigator was Daniel Whitaker, Ph.D., a behavioral scientist and team leader at the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control (which is part of the CDC). Results were published in the May Journal of Public Health. </p>
<p>In 2001, the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health attempted to amass data about the health of a nationally representative sample of 14,322 individuals between the ages of 18 and 28. The study also asked subjects to answer questions about romantic or sexual relationships in which they had engaged during the previous five years and whether those relationships had involved violence. </p>
<p>Of those subjects, 11,370 reported having had heterosexual relationships and also provided answers to the violence-related questions. So Whitaker and his colleagues decided to use the responses from these 11,370 subjects for a study into how much violence is experienced in intimate heterosexual partner relationships, who the instigators are, and whether physical harm accrues from the violence. </p>
<p>The 11,370 subjects, Whitaker and his colleagues found, reported on 18,761 relationships, of which 76 percent had been nonviolent and 24 percent violent. </p>
<p>That almost a quarter of the subjects had engaged in violent relationships may seem high to some people, but &#8220;the rates we found are similar to those of other studies of late adolescents and young adults, a time period when interpersonal-violence rates are at their highest,&#8221; Whitaker told Psychiatric News. Also, he added, &#8220;these rates demonstrate the magnitude of interpersonal violence as a health and social problem.&#8221; </p>
<p>Furthermore, Whitaker discovered, of the 24 percent of relationships that had been violent, half had been reciprocal and half had not. Although more men than women (53 percent versus 49 percent) had **experienced** nonreciprocal violent relationships, more women than men (52 percent versus 47 percent) had **taken part **in ones involving reciprocal violence. </p>
<p>Regarding perpetration of violence, **more women than men** (*25 percent versus *11 percent) were responsible.</p>
<p>In fact, *71 percent of the instigators in nonreciprocal partner violence were women. </p>
<p>This finding surprised Whitaker and his colleagues, they admitted in their study report. </p>
<p>As for physical injury due to intimate partner violence, it was more likely to occur when the violence was reciprocal than nonreciprocal. And while injury was more likely when violence was perpetrated by men, in relationships with reciprocal violence **it was the men who were injured more often ** (25 percent of the time) than were women (20 percent of the time). </p>
<p>&#8220;This is important as violence perpetrated by women is often seen as not serious,&#8221; Whitaker and his group stressed. </p>
<p>Of the study&#8217;s numerous findings, Whitaker said, &#8220;I think the most important is that a great deal of interpersonal violence is reciprocally perpetrated and that when it is reciprocally perpetrated, it is much more likely to result in injury than when perpetrated by only one partner.&#8221; </p>
<p>The National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, upon which this investigation was based, was funded by the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development with co-funding from 17 other federal agencies.</p>
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