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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;History&#8217; Teacher Asks 14-Year-Olds to Renounce U.S. Citizenship</title>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know their history enough to know how the soviets refered to those people who were traitors to their own country?  those people who were from the west, who knew things that the soviet people didnt, who had everything, and yet they would gladly walk into an enemy camp professing freindship.... 

that the people helping to turn the state, and who think they will be rewarded, are regarded by those they seek to help as &quot;govnoed&quot;.  its not a nice word... it means they eat dung... that they like to eat dung, that its a choice...   


Inside Soviet Military Intelligence by Suvorov Viktor 
(cleaned up text replacing s**t with dung)

We are talking about the numerous members of overseas societies of friendship with the Soviet Union. Officially, all Soviet representatives regard these parasites with touching feelings of friendship, but privately they call them &#039;dung-eaters&#039; (&#039;govnoed&#039;). It is difficult to say where this expression originated, but it is truly the only name they deserve.

The use of this word has become so firmly entrenched in Soviet embassies that it is impossible to imagine any other name for these people. A conversation might run as follows: Today we&#039;ve got a friendship evening with dung-eaters&#039;, or Today we&#039;re having some dung-eaters to dinner. Prepare a suitable menu&#039;. 

Officers of both the GRU and the KGB have very much more respect for their agents than for the shit-eaters. The motives of agents are clear — an easy life and plenty of money. If you take risks and lose, then no money and no easy life. To the end of his life the agent will not be able to tear himself away from this servitude — as is the case in the criminal world. But the behaviour of the numerous friends of the Soviet Union is utterly incomprehensible to Soviet people. In the Soviet Union everybody without exception wishes to be abroad, to go absolutely anywhere, even if only with one eye to look at Mongolia or Cambodia. Oh! to be abroad, is the cry, led by the children of Brezhnev, Gromyko and Andropov. When Soviet people want to say that a thing is outstandingly good, they say, &#039;Really, this must be foreign.&#039; It does not matter which country it comes from, or what its quality or age — it has to be foreign. But suddenly one finds these friends of the Soviet Union, who enjoy all the fruits of civilisation down to Gillette razor blades, who can buy anything they want in the shops, even bananas, and yet they praise the Soviet Union. No, these people are nothing but dung-eaters according to Soviet intelligence. The contempt felt for them does not prevent the GRU and KGB from using them whenever they can. They do everything free, and they will even come to meetings in secure places like the Soviet Embassy. 

The recruitment of such people is not recommended by the Central Committee, but why bother to recruit them when they bring such advantages without being recruited? &lt;b&gt;The GRU usually makes use of the dung-eaters &#039;in the dark&#039;, in other words not saying what they are used for or how much they benefit from their services.&lt;/b&gt; They usually ask from them information about their neighbours, friends, acquaintances, fellow workers and so on. Sometimes one of them is asked to organise an evening party with one or another of his acquaintances, after which the GRU thanks him and tells him to forget what has happened. They are very good people, they forget everything. 


the teacher is a over zealous dung eater...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know their history enough to know how the soviets refered to those people who were traitors to their own country?  those people who were from the west, who knew things that the soviet people didnt, who had everything, and yet they would gladly walk into an enemy camp professing freindship&#8230;. </p>
<p>that the people helping to turn the state, and who think they will be rewarded, are regarded by those they seek to help as &#8220;govnoed&#8221;.  its not a nice word&#8230; it means they eat dung&#8230; that they like to eat dung, that its a choice&#8230;   </p>
<p>Inside Soviet Military Intelligence by Suvorov Viktor<br />
(cleaned up text replacing s**t with dung)</p>
<p>We are talking about the numerous members of overseas societies of friendship with the Soviet Union. Officially, all Soviet representatives regard these parasites with touching feelings of friendship, but privately they call them &#8216;dung-eaters&#8217; (&#8217;govnoed&#8217;). It is difficult to say where this expression originated, but it is truly the only name they deserve.</p>
<p>The use of this word has become so firmly entrenched in Soviet embassies that it is impossible to imagine any other name for these people. A conversation might run as follows: Today we&#8217;ve got a friendship evening with dung-eaters&#8217;, or Today we&#8217;re having some dung-eaters to dinner. Prepare a suitable menu&#8217;. </p>
<p>Officers of both the GRU and the KGB have very much more respect for their agents than for the shit-eaters. The motives of agents are clear — an easy life and plenty of money. If you take risks and lose, then no money and no easy life. To the end of his life the agent will not be able to tear himself away from this servitude — as is the case in the criminal world. But the behaviour of the numerous friends of the Soviet Union is utterly incomprehensible to Soviet people. In the Soviet Union everybody without exception wishes to be abroad, to go absolutely anywhere, even if only with one eye to look at Mongolia or Cambodia. Oh! to be abroad, is the cry, led by the children of Brezhnev, Gromyko and Andropov. When Soviet people want to say that a thing is outstandingly good, they say, &#8216;Really, this must be foreign.&#8217; It does not matter which country it comes from, or what its quality or age — it has to be foreign. But suddenly one finds these friends of the Soviet Union, who enjoy all the fruits of civilisation down to Gillette razor blades, who can buy anything they want in the shops, even bananas, and yet they praise the Soviet Union. No, these people are nothing but dung-eaters according to Soviet intelligence. The contempt felt for them does not prevent the GRU and KGB from using them whenever they can. They do everything free, and they will even come to meetings in secure places like the Soviet Embassy. </p>
<p>The recruitment of such people is not recommended by the Central Committee, but why bother to recruit them when they bring such advantages without being recruited? <b>The GRU usually makes use of the dung-eaters &#8216;in the dark&#8217;, in other words not saying what they are used for or how much they benefit from their services.</b> They usually ask from them information about their neighbours, friends, acquaintances, fellow workers and so on. Sometimes one of them is asked to organise an evening party with one or another of his acquaintances, after which the GRU thanks him and tells him to forget what has happened. They are very good people, they forget everything. </p>
<p>the teacher is a over zealous dung eater&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Vicar</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Vicar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Roger F. Gay, it&#039;s stuff like this is the reason I don&#039;t send my kids to public schools.

Good question though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Roger F. Gay, it&#8217;s stuff like this is the reason I don&#8217;t send my kids to public schools.</p>
<p>Good question though.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why aren&#039;t both the teacher and the principle in jail for child abuse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why aren&#8217;t both the teacher and the principle in jail for child abuse?</p>
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		<title>By: The Vicar</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Vicar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a stupid douche! 

If anyone should renounce his citizenship, let him go ahead. 

I&#039;m sure Iran or Russia would welcome this corn hole with a parade!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a stupid douche! </p>
<p>If anyone should renounce his citizenship, let him go ahead. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Iran or Russia would welcome this corn hole with a parade!</p>
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		<title>By: Burton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Parent Michael Hill of Chico tells reporters, &quot;The lesson being taught in class was that the U.S. kidnaps innocent people and takes them to Cuba, where they are kept indefinitely and tortured...Brooks mentioning illegal wiretaps and other surveillance directed against innocent people.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

The only problem is, the US does everything stated. Kidnapping? It&#039;s called &quot;extrajudicial rendition.&quot; This got started with the war on drugs, where US agents would kidnap foreign nationals for trial in the US in violation of extradition traties (i.e., the US was breaking the law). Indefinite detention -- isn&#039;t that what is going on at Gitmo? 

How about all the stuff the criminal injustice systems pulls in violation of the Bill of Rights? Asset forfeiture. Gun grabs. Drug testing.  Profile searches. No-knock raids. 

Illegal wiretaps? Look at Roving wiretaps. Echelon. Data mining. Surveillance cameras everywhere. Welcome to 1984.

Look at how feminist inspired laws have ripped up such concepts as due process and presumption of innocence. MRAs complain about this all the time.  Are we un-American?

&lt;i&gt;Not only are schools anti-American, but they are filled with gutless and stupid administrators, as well. &lt;/i&gt;

Can&#039;t argue with that one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Parent Michael Hill of Chico tells reporters, &#8220;The lesson being taught in class was that the U.S. kidnaps innocent people and takes them to Cuba, where they are kept indefinitely and tortured&#8230;Brooks mentioning illegal wiretaps and other surveillance directed against innocent people.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>The only problem is, the US does everything stated. Kidnapping? It&#8217;s called &#8220;extrajudicial rendition.&#8221; This got started with the war on drugs, where US agents would kidnap foreign nationals for trial in the US in violation of extradition traties (i.e., the US was breaking the law). Indefinite detention &#8212; isn&#8217;t that what is going on at Gitmo? </p>
<p>How about all the stuff the criminal injustice systems pulls in violation of the Bill of Rights? Asset forfeiture. Gun grabs. Drug testing.  Profile searches. No-knock raids. </p>
<p>Illegal wiretaps? Look at Roving wiretaps. Echelon. Data mining. Surveillance cameras everywhere. Welcome to 1984.</p>
<p>Look at how feminist inspired laws have ripped up such concepts as due process and presumption of innocence. MRAs complain about this all the time.  Are we un-American?</p>
<p><i>Not only are schools anti-American, but they are filled with gutless and stupid administrators, as well. </i></p>
<p>Can&#8217;t argue with that one!</p>
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