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	<title>Comments on: Women Who Batter, Proudly</title>
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		<title>By: steven deluca</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/10/05/women-who-batter-proudly/comment-page-1/#comment-53158</link>
		<dc:creator>steven deluca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to teach self-defense but during one melt down with an abusive girl friend, surprise, I was bashed in the face, ... she had horrible things happen to her in the past that made her periodically nuts just like many of those who resort to violence do.  If I hadn&#039;t been sexually abuses as a boy by an older female, and abused for years by my mother, I would have not been so messed up that I just took it for longer than I should have... just like some women do, and size doesn&#039;t matter.

Felt suicidal the last time around, then left for good. Therapy, a good woman,   and time helped heal (mostly) and I grew past those wounds.  I did realize that if not for some luck I would have shot myself just like many men do.  For some reason it&#039;s a big laugh when men are hurt and noone considers the psychological damage that happens to the tens of thousands of men brought up in America with abusive women in control of their early lives.  Few consider that the higher male suicide rates might be somewhat related to early child abuse and later domestic violence.  Hey, it&#039;s just guys, no big deal, ... but don&#039;t you ever raise your voice, or &quot;push&quot; a women, because we all know how  f----n serious that is and there is never an excuse for DV, unless of course you are a woman and then it&#039;s never your fault, - it&#039;s he made me do it, or the patriarchy made me crazy.

Glad to see more men and women willing to stop all DV.  How the heck do they plan on stopping DV when we pretend it&#039;s OK for children to see their fathers being slapped around, kicked, but not ok if that happens to the sugar and spice crew.

SD

PS The Press Democrat,  Santa Rosa, CA had a great letter to the editor Sunday Oct 14 titled &quot;Gender Violence&quot; and it&#039;s worth trying to find it if you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to teach self-defense but during one melt down with an abusive girl friend, surprise, I was bashed in the face, &#8230; she had horrible things happen to her in the past that made her periodically nuts just like many of those who resort to violence do.  If I hadn&#8217;t been sexually abuses as a boy by an older female, and abused for years by my mother, I would have not been so messed up that I just took it for longer than I should have&#8230; just like some women do, and size doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>Felt suicidal the last time around, then left for good. Therapy, a good woman,   and time helped heal (mostly) and I grew past those wounds.  I did realize that if not for some luck I would have shot myself just like many men do.  For some reason it&#8217;s a big laugh when men are hurt and noone considers the psychological damage that happens to the tens of thousands of men brought up in America with abusive women in control of their early lives.  Few consider that the higher male suicide rates might be somewhat related to early child abuse and later domestic violence.  Hey, it&#8217;s just guys, no big deal, &#8230; but don&#8217;t you ever raise your voice, or &#8220;push&#8221; a women, because we all know how  f&#8212;-n serious that is and there is never an excuse for DV, unless of course you are a woman and then it&#8217;s never your fault, &#8211; it&#8217;s he made me do it, or the patriarchy made me crazy.</p>
<p>Glad to see more men and women willing to stop all DV.  How the heck do they plan on stopping DV when we pretend it&#8217;s OK for children to see their fathers being slapped around, kicked, but not ok if that happens to the sugar and spice crew.</p>
<p>SD</p>
<p>PS The Press Democrat,  Santa Rosa, CA had a great letter to the editor Sunday Oct 14 titled &#8220;Gender Violence&#8221; and it&#8217;s worth trying to find it if you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for the 100th time:

the oppressor can be the only oppressor. the oppressed can not be the oppressor nor can commit, by definition, an oppressive act against their oppressors.  in other words, dogs on a chain bear no responsibility. 

once you or anyone gets this line of logic, then a whole lot of behaivors fall neatly into it rather than sit as an incomprehensible set of outragous acts. in this case they are doing what &#039;they believe&#039; their oppressors have done to all women before, as says their herstory, and being that this is an act of equality, its well within their proper rights to do so.   

if they didnt think this, how could they say openly and brazenly that this is what they do? if they didnt believe that this was how all men were in the past, then how can they create a future that is exactly that way, but reversed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for the 100th time:</p>
<p>the oppressor can be the only oppressor. the oppressed can not be the oppressor nor can commit, by definition, an oppressive act against their oppressors.  in other words, dogs on a chain bear no responsibility. </p>
<p>once you or anyone gets this line of logic, then a whole lot of behaivors fall neatly into it rather than sit as an incomprehensible set of outragous acts. in this case they are doing what &#8216;they believe&#8217; their oppressors have done to all women before, as says their herstory, and being that this is an act of equality, its well within their proper rights to do so.   </p>
<p>if they didnt think this, how could they say openly and brazenly that this is what they do? if they didnt believe that this was how all men were in the past, then how can they create a future that is exactly that way, but reversed?</p>
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		<title>By: college activist</title>
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		<dc:creator>college activist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 12:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thom.  You mention bringing this thread to campus!!  Thats a very important front in this information battlefield!!

  Were planning a major reach out campaign on universities with the headlines...

          FALSELLY ACCUSSED DUKE LACCROSSE BOYS
      FILE A CIVIL RIGHTS LAWSUIT AGAINST THE DURHAM 
      KLAN THAT WERE FOAMING AT THE MOUTH TO PUT
      INNOCENT MEN IN JAIL FOR A RAPE THAT SIMPLY 
      NEVER HAPPENNED!!!
      GOTO. menscollegeactivist.com
  
  The dukes of durham are going to start to make it costly to adhere to feminist Klan hysteria to the detriment of equal protection under the law for men/fathers/boys..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thom.  You mention bringing this thread to campus!!  Thats a very important front in this information battlefield!!</p>
<p>  Were planning a major reach out campaign on universities with the headlines&#8230;</p>
<p>          FALSELLY ACCUSSED DUKE LACCROSSE BOYS<br />
      FILE A CIVIL RIGHTS LAWSUIT AGAINST THE DURHAM<br />
      KLAN THAT WERE FOAMING AT THE MOUTH TO PUT<br />
      INNOCENT MEN IN JAIL FOR A RAPE THAT SIMPLY<br />
      NEVER HAPPENNED!!!<br />
      GOTO. menscollegeactivist.com</p>
<p>  The dukes of durham are going to start to make it costly to adhere to feminist Klan hysteria to the detriment of equal protection under the law for men/fathers/boys..</p>
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		<title>By: David R. Usher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David R. Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 07:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly encourage handing it around campus.  But it should not be done to get a &quot;reaction&quot;.  This is real serious stuff.  Anyone on campus who thinks its funny should be reminded that women beating on men is the case in over half of all domestic violence.  

Campus men and women will have to &quot;out&quot; this issue.  The evil of silence about this problem is the portender of the future -- most men lose their families and life savings later in life to false allegations in divorce courts (the Duke Rape Case is an obvious example of where the artillery of the legal system is pointed).

Campus men MUST stop buying the feminist myths.  Men should be unafraid to talk about it when they are being hit.  In fact, they should record these things and taking  it to campus police, the President&#039;s office, and the Student governing body.  Women who are abusive do it at predictable places and times.  Guys in these relationships should carry a small digital recorder on them at all times and be prepared to use it to protect themselves from being accused of violence (campus feminists are famous for this).  In your room, a carefully placed videocam (with remote) can be used to get it all easily.  

Men should not sit around for feminist hate activities such as &quot;Take Back the Night&quot; (colleges certainly wouldn&#039;t let whites do a &quot;Take Back the Night&quot; directed at blacks!!!). 

And campus women must learn to be responsible and haul off any woman who is abusing her boyfriend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly encourage handing it around campus.  But it should not be done to get a &#8220;reaction&#8221;.  This is real serious stuff.  Anyone on campus who thinks its funny should be reminded that women beating on men is the case in over half of all domestic violence.  </p>
<p>Campus men and women will have to &#8220;out&#8221; this issue.  The evil of silence about this problem is the portender of the future &#8212; most men lose their families and life savings later in life to false allegations in divorce courts (the Duke Rape Case is an obvious example of where the artillery of the legal system is pointed).</p>
<p>Campus men MUST stop buying the feminist myths.  Men should be unafraid to talk about it when they are being hit.  In fact, they should record these things and taking  it to campus police, the President&#8217;s office, and the Student governing body.  Women who are abusive do it at predictable places and times.  Guys in these relationships should carry a small digital recorder on them at all times and be prepared to use it to protect themselves from being accused of violence (campus feminists are famous for this).  In your room, a carefully placed videocam (with remote) can be used to get it all easily.  </p>
<p>Men should not sit around for feminist hate activities such as &#8220;Take Back the Night&#8221; (colleges certainly wouldn&#8217;t let whites do a &#8220;Take Back the Night&#8221; directed at blacks!!!). </p>
<p>And campus women must learn to be responsible and haul off any woman who is abusing her boyfriend.</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 02:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thom, go right ahead. Yield to the temptation to tell the truth. Put it on campus notice-boards. While you are at it, stick some up on police station notice boards too.

But don&#039;t look for laughs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thom, go right ahead. Yield to the temptation to tell the truth. Put it on campus notice-boards. While you are at it, stick some up on police station notice boards too.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t look for laughs.</p>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m tempted to print out the thread and hand it out on campus.  It sure would be amusing to see the reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tempted to print out the thread and hand it out on campus.  It sure would be amusing to see the reaction.</p>
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