‘Your daughters will believe that all men are as nasty, malicious and screwed up as you are’

2007-10-06
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In my blog post Naomi Margaret Mitchison, Scottish Novelist and Poet, on Her Father, I quoted Mitchison’s reminiscences of her father and how safe and loved she felt while “curled up on his lap.” I wrote:

“I think all of us hope our daughters will have the same type of memories of us.”

A feminist reader with the handle “Kishmir” responded, explaining how she thought our daughters will remember us:

“I doubt that your daughters will have the same kinds of memories of most of you as fathers. Your daughters will have memories of how you destroyed their relationships with their mothers, abuse their mothers, and believe women are inferior to men. Your daughters will grow up to believe that all men hate them as much as you do. Even worse, your daughters will come to believe that all men are as nasty, malicious and screwed up as you are…”
 

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  • fourthwire

    And when feminazis like “kishmir” write in to, it’s a safe bet that our Womyn’s Studies programs continue to pump out bumper crops of misandrist bitches.

  • fourthwire

    Sorry, typo:

    And when feminazis like “kishmir” write in to express themselves thusly, it’s a safe bet that our Womyn’s Studies programs continue to pump out bumper crops of misandrist bitches.

  • anti armchair generals

    fourthwire,
    You are rights about women studies programs. But worse, since most Women’s Collge Coalition members don’t admit men, many in New England like Smith College, Mount Holyoke, Wellesley etc and are excempt from Title IX, under Sect. 901 (a) 5 of Title IX there seldom is heard a discouraging word since male voices are absent/
    http://www.womenscolleges.org/

  • anti armchair generals

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  • BobH

    Clearly that woman believes there is a “gender war” going on. What’s she going to do when she discovers that women like her have convinced a large number of men of that fact and are prepared to act on that knowledge?

    Maybe reading “The Scum Manifesto” should be requirement for boys being allowed to date. At least then he’d have an idea of what he’s going to be dealing with.

  • daveinga

    IMHo i believe the next generation of women will be better educated and hopefully smarter than this bunch. and a lot less needy. with marriage on the skids they will need to be more self sufficient. the intro of male birth control is going to make this whole thing of holding children as hostages and men signing one sided contracts a moot point. this half wit has her “entitled” goggles on and doesn’t see how much society kisses her ass just for being a woman. things are going to change and i can hardly wait to see them squirm trying to hold onto all these entitlements. the more you are given the weaker you become. they are literally pricing themselves out of the relationship market. competition from women from other countries will play a role too. keep dreamin’ darlin’. wonder what your daughters are going to think when they realize the truth about these generations of entitlement queens? ha.

  • amfortas

    “Kishmir” is right. No matter that you love your daughter as much as I love my little petal (now mid twenties) her mother will make damned sure that her memories bear no resemblance to yours. Your daughter’s memories will be planted and nurtured by the woman you loved, the one who promised to love you; the one who changed into the selfish, lying harridan. The memories you planted in neat rows will be grubbed up with industrial strength parental alienation brainwashing.

    Daveinga says “IMHo i believe the next generation of women will be better educated and hopefully smarter than this bunch.” And just who is going to teach them? Men are universally marginalised and dismissed, no matter how well and deeply they love and care and try, and the current crop of women fall into either of two classes – the feminist fellow-travelling agitproppers in our colleges, or the great mass of thick, lazy, silent women who take all the privilege and do nothing to save male-female relationships, even their own.

  • mruffolo

    Girlfriend sells and gives away ex-boyfriend’s stuff.

    http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/bar/441768071.html

    Where’s the police?

  • http://www.shatterdmen.com/ shatteredmen

    I am sure Kishmir would be one of the ones screaming the loudest that PARENTAL ALINATION does not exist. She is proof it does! This would be the only reason her statements would be true, these kids would be taught to hate their fathers.

  • David R. Usher

    Sexist hate iis as repulsive as racist hate. They come from a common root: the women’s Ku Klux Klan. See http://www.dadsnow.org for more information.

  • JamesH

    Today my daughter rung me.

    she was feeling miserable as she has come down with chicken pox.

    So I jumped in the car and went and saw her.

  • Artfldgr

    “kishmir” will make sure of it…

  • Artfldgr

    here is something that is interesting
    go to the february 10 2007 issue of new scientist.
    “her father’s daughter”

    has the bi-line…

    “if you dong want your little princess to grow up too quickly, she had better be daddy’s girl, says mairi macleod”

    “girls who experience family stress will mathure faster”

    “if she grwos up in a sociali,ly harsh environment, and so cannnot expect much support in later life, she will be better off if she adopts an accelerated reproductive strategy, including earlier onset of puberty and menarche, early first pregnancey, and short-term relationships with less parenting investment in each of her children”

    “a girl growing up in a more stable nurturing invironment, on the other hand will be better served by a high investment reproductive strategy, including later puberty and on set of sexual activity, and more stable pair bonding”

    so actually this quote is a window into the world of the feminist child (as many of the leaders come from stressful family homes), and normal children who can see a difference in investments and outcomes.. that this woman was a product of that later and better upbringing is clear by her quote.

    that kishmir is a product of the other kind, either in truth, or how she has twisted it to be, she has venom and nothing but total disbelief that her experience in growing up is not normal… and that what she preaches is not the norm, but the abnorm.

    read the article… there are SERIOUS downsides to not being raised in a stable home with a stable blood father.

    “the closer and more affectionate the father-daughter relationship, the later the childs sexual development occured. a supportive relationship between parents delayed puberty still further”

    “in contrast, the BIOLOGICAL fathers absence, or friction between parents, was associated with earlier puberty, sexual activity, and pregnancy. girls who have lived without fathers from an early age were almost twice as ligkely to ahve completed puberty by seventh grade (age 12 or 13) and were seven times more likely to expereince pregancey in adolexence”

    so i guess feminist wonts create a huge cadre of disabled women who need socialist masters… rather than be free, they are being imprisoned by circumstances being thrust on them by those that are manuplating the indicators of actions.

    “… a females sexual development is inhibited by contact with members of her natal group, while exposure to unrelated adult males accelerates maturation. this effect is mediated by airborne chemicals knowns as peheromones…”

    so the more strange men the girl has around her (like when unsheltered by family and culture), the faster she matures. which means the slwoer mentally she becomes because this interferes with the speed at which she becomes an operative adult and stops taking in knowlege as fast and starts working on her social skills.

    the old traditional family, which required chapperones and such turns out to be the one that would raize the most capable and able women who would make the best life partners… the feminist prescription creates the total opposite.

  • khankrumthebulgar

    It seems that the gender War is as hot as ever. And that the delusional Lesbian Led FemNags continue to wallow in their hatred of Men. So be it. Hate bounces. And US Men are increasingly rejecting US Women for wives. If present trends continue in 20 years 25% of US Marriages will be to non Feminized Women. US Men get it. Marry a Feminist is like playing Russian Roulette with a revolver with 3 chambers loaded.

    Kishmir has a future with Cats, or Lesbian Partners. Men must bail on Feminized Women. Our Survival instincts are kicking in. With the other percentage of Men saying No to Marriage. Women who adopt Kishmir’s attitude face a lonely future.

  • bolwriter

    99% of people who read this type of feminist hatred know it for exactly what it is. With every screed like Kishmir’s, feminism loses converts and credibility.

  • Artfldgr

    VERY sorry for the hiccup… sigh

  • daveinga

    am. – i too have suffered (and still do) from this disease PAS. INHo it is the most horrible thing that can happen to anyone. it is a living death. only the most vile creatures would inflict it upon someone they once loved. we exist for our children. these are very bad people, no doubt.

    that said, we must move on. making the young ones aware is what must be done. ignorance of what is happening only increases it’s strength, and future effect. make no mistake, we are at war w/ feminism. so let us take the offensive. this type of pampered priveledged half woman is seeking to shame us. we are not the ones who should be ashamed. people all over are starting to see what results when this type feminist hatred is allowed to exist. it changes and then destroys all it touches.
    we can take the high ground. they surely don’t have it. they are fumbling from one disaster to the next w/ one battle plan – blame it on the men.

    we must keep hammering. it is working. it took a lot of bad people spewing hatred and lies and having their way to get us here. it is going to take a lot of good people loving their children and telling the truth to get us out. the glass is half full, truly.

    true equality under the law. fairness, truth, and justice. it all comes together or not at all.

    have a nice holiday (US only). sorry am.

  • anti armchair generals

    davegana and anfortas
    You’re right about future generation of women being better educated. But what about men. Article from Chappel Hill illustrate the percentage of women in college.

    “Where the Boys Are…Not on Campus”
    http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1812890/

  • anti armchair generals

    Correction, the spelling should have been Chapel Hill
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapel

  • Robert Stevens

    Well folks the day is fast approaching that these hate mongering women will be no more. You see people are not stupid, they are trusting and sometimes apathetic, but not stupid. Sooner or later they will put two and two together and reject the hate filled garbage the feminazi’s are spewing . It will no longer be acceptable to bad mouth and disrespect fathers/men.
    The father/ mens/ family law reform movement* is going to suceed and the rampant destruction of the family unit will stop. Marriage will once again be a safe proposition for men. Now … don’t get me wrong. It will be a tough row to hoe! Once we pass the civil rights law to stop this evil, we will then have to enforce them. A lot of hate mongers , women and men alike, will have to be convinced. A lot them will have to be prosecuted and go to jail to make them understand that this ” rebellion ” is over. History is repleat will those that have to be stopped, since they lack the discipline or the real desire to stop on their own.
    It will take many years,even after we pass these ” new civil rights laws” for attitudes to change. Even years later . there will still be women who think they are superior to men. There will still be those that still believe it is O K to judicially kidnap children from fathers and that those father should not have any real rights.
    I forsee, federal agents having to arrest family court judges, child support workers , lawyers and women, because they still beleive they can get away with the “wrong things” they have always done!
    * I don’t know what to call this movement, it is about fathers, somewhat. It is about men, somewhat, but mostly I beleive it is about saving and restoring the family unit and that is more than just fathers and men.

  • anti armchair generals

    Robert Stevens,
    I wish your optimistic vision would become a reality. But I fear reverse will happen. Men opposed to feminazi agenda may be placed in Gulag, like in former Soviet Union. Now they are housed in ordinary jails and prisons.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

    Only gay men will be used as sperm donors for feminist to produce more sensetive society, or male fetuses will be aborted.

  • donnieboy57

    i refuse to give in to feminism. have i won? perhaps. my friends wives don’t invite me over as often anymore for the backyard bbq and such. they think they have won. now i see my 2 closest friends only at the bar once every 2 weeks or so for 1 beer only. they have to get home to take mama to the latest chick flick. i suppose i showed them!

  • amfortas

    “I forsee, federal agents having to arrest family court judges, child support workers , lawyers and women, because they still beleive they can get away with the “wrong things” they have always done!”.

    Damned right, Robert. About day two of my Presidency should see this start! Before I heve even unpacked my bags.

    Vote #1 Amfortas. The Iron Gnome.

  • anti armchair generals

    23 amfortas.
    A few days ago (as I recall Joy Adams) asked people to send question about Amfortas platform. It also asked suggestions what Amfortas shoud do if elected president etc.
    But before I could reply the column was gone. Is Joy Adams your campaign manager and potential Secretary of State like Condoleeza Rice?

    PS. Did you notice that in Glen Sacks web site, mine and I think your comments were deleted

  • anti armchair generals

    Amfortas,
    Look at Glenn Sacks web page, 3rd column down

  • anti armchair generals
  • amfortas

    AACG, I get deleted so often ! People must misunderstand me for some reason. I simply accept that even the chaps I most admire and support sometimes take offence at my forthright comments. I don’t get upset. Its their blog.

    Now, as for my Interview with Joy, it went very well. You didn’t see it? I am hurt. Dismayed. What a great interviewer she is (her first go at it too!). Look up her blog. And yes she is my campaign manager and I am sure she will welcome several million dollars that you might have handy. As for the Sec of State job, Joy hasn’t made any demands or requests but I am sure there could be a lot of fun when she is let loose on several heads of countries around the world.

    Hazarding getting deleted again, I offer this reprise of a small part of Joy’s interview:

    **Fourth Question: Do you believe in marriage between a man and a woman? Would you let gays get married?

    I am glad you asked that, Joy. Or should I call you Mistress Joyanna? I believe strongly in marriage. And fidelity. Men and women are a coupling made in heaven and I will cast into Hell-on-Alcatraz ( I will be re-opening that place by the way) all those anti-Family Court scum that have done so much to destroy it. We may need a few more similar island prisons but I will make sure we don’t go down the old luxury apartment route.

    The ‘old’ idea of marriage is what I have in mind. Vows, held to by adults. For better and for worse. No backsliding when the going inevitably gets a bit tough. In sickness and health. Marry a loony and live with your choice. Loonies need love too. Maybe choose more carefully. Marry a man, not a wallet. Marry a woman, not a mirage. Get some character and maturity before you even start.

    None of this divorce at whim carnage. There is a lot to undo. Gays marrying? A pervert’s fantasy. No way. Not that I care a monkeys toss about this or that person’s sexual proclivities but Marriage is about love and male-female bonking and family, which means children. Children need a father and a mother; no ifs, no buts. No rampant single-motherhood nonsense either. Knickers up and knees together if you ain’t hitched.

    My Administration will get out of the Marriage business altogether. None of my damned business managing the process. Contract law is quite able to deal with it. Break your contract and you have to compensate your partner. There is nothing complicated about it. Equal dissolution by mutual agreement? Fine. No unilateralism. Take out what you put in and split the jointly developed assets as per input. No more of this corruption by lawyers and judges stripping family assets. No more massive payouts to crooked partners. Kids? You are both wholly, jointly and severally totally responsible. Deal with it. Do it right or I will then step in and whack you. Poison their young minds against one or the other and its out a high friggin’ window, like a Professor.

    My first 100 days will see a wholescale dismantling of the anti-Family Court, along with most other Courts too. There will be much gnashing of teeth, for those few legal carrion that retain their teeth. Corruption will be severely dealt with. I will be seeking out true men and women but expect to find only a few. There will be Appointments of ordinary sensible people to the Bench. Preferably heavy goods vehicle drivers and electrical linesmen. The words ‘Truth’ and ‘Justice’ will be brought out of retirement. All will be equal before the law and no particular group’s ‘interests’ will be put above another’s, even if they are only two foot tall or have genitals of a particular kind. Law will take its place as a subordinate of Justice.

    There will be much rejoicing by those on the Left, as, for a while, I will institute just the sort of Court processes they seem to love. Just for them. Secret Courts; guilty until they prove themselves innocent; the judicious use of accusation from all and sundry; no need for evidence; blind eye to perjury; lots of whimsical technicalities. Oh my. There will be fun for all. I might even televise some. They love that sort of thing. Reality TV.

    Dispossession will be a normal base level punishment. Restitution and recompense for all that these parasites and thieves have abused, good people, mainly chaps as it happens, will take some time. The rest of some Judges and lawyers’ lives I imagine. Their families and friends are going to be thoroughly pissed off with them.

    For the rest of ‘We the People’ it is back to the Magna Carta and Habeus Corpus. Justice, Truth. Equality.

  • anti armchair generals

    amfortas.
    Good article, but the media may dismiss you since you don’t march in lock-step with their agenda.
    Another point. You wrote,

    “My first 100 days will see a wholescale dismantling of the anti-Family Court, along with most other Courts too. There will be much gnashing of teeth, for those few legal carrion that retain their teeth. Corruption will be severely dealt with. I will be seeking out true men and women but expect to find only a few. There will be Appointments of ordinary sensible people to the Bench. Preferably heavy goods vehicle drivers and electrical linesmen. The words ‘Truth’ and ‘Justice’ will be brought out of retirement. ”

    There is no constitutional requirement that Supreme Court justices be lawyers, but in practice they are. Also, Orphans Court judges (which probate estates) don’t have to be lawyers in many states,

    Now I don’t feel so bad beeing deleted , ignored, insulted or taken out of context. I’m in good company since the same happens to you, Amfortas.

  • amfortas

    I can’t see where anything I have said was deleted by Glenn, AACG. Maybe you are mixing me up with someone. Glenn is a good sport and I hold him in the very highest regard. Butas I said, its his blog.

    Interesting about non-lawyer Judges. It is the same all over the western world. Judges are drawn mostly from the lawyer class, but don’t have to be. Time we went back to earlier tradition. Before the 1700s there were few ‘advocates’ at all. Now we are awash with them, all making heaps from defending the guilty as sin. And the Judges used to Judge. They sought the truth; they sought the evidence. Now they are as umpires, awarding points for what the lawyers bring forward and the lawyers of course try their damnedest to prevent truth being told.

    Of course the media will ignore me. There will be changes there to, mark my words!!

  • anti armchair generals

    amfortas.
    I don’t disagree with you that Glen Sacks is a good guy. But none of my comments and yours 7 and 23 did not appear on his web page. But it’s his baby so no point crying over spilled milk. Local paper does not give me time of the day.
    Sacks web site on same article

    http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1246






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