Feminist Bloggers Angry over My Interview on VAWA, Domestic Violence Policies

Tuesday, October 9, 2007
By Glenn Sacks

Pajamas Media advice columnist Dr. Helen Smith interviewed me recently on the subject of the Violence Against Women Act, the way our legal system handles domestic violence, and related issues–see Fighting for Men’s Rights (Pajamas Media, 10/8/07). Readers can comment on their experiences with domestic violence laws by clicking here.

Several prominent feminist bloggers are unhappy over my interview. These include:

1) Leading feminist blogger Amanda Marcotte of Pandagon, who says:

“Glenn…makes it clear in this interview, he’s on your side if you’re angry that your stupid, broken wife resists your abuse. He condemns restraining orders, because they make it harder to get to your wife in order to beat her.”

To join the discussion on Amanda’s blog, click here.
 

2) Male feminist blogger Jeff Fecke (pictured), who (sigh) calls me a “misogynist.” To join the discussion on his blog(s), click here and here.
 

3) Male feminist blogger Scott Lemieux, who derides my claim that domestic violence restraining orders are sometimes used by women to gain leverage in custody disputes. To join the discussion on his blog, click here.

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15 Responses to “Feminist Bloggers Angry over My Interview on VAWA, Domestic Violence Policies”

  1. 1
    Artfldgr Says:

    Many of the men would LOVE to join a honest discussion on blogs like pandagon… but they censor things as communists are wont to do, and so anything that you may post, espeically if its meaningful, will be deleted…

  2. 2
    Lee Raconteur Says:

    Amanda at Pandagon refuses to honestly debate. Anyone who disagrees is labeled a Misogynist, their comments are moderated to provide maximum entertainment value to her and her regulars, and then she bans you by email, login and IP.

    She thinks it is a Red Herring Free Speech Issue, when it is in fact the reality that she cannot subject her views to open, uncensored, uncontrolled debate.

    Similar attitudes will be found at HugoSchwyzer.net, Amptoons and Feministing.com.

    Feminism cannot withstand an open debate.

  3. 3
    steven deluca Says:

    Don’t waste time with idiots.

    I heard a quote the other day. “Give me a boy before he is seven and I’ll give you the man.” Jesuits.

    I have read articles in women’s magazines about instilling guilt in boys, and teaching them to serve women, all by the time they enter school and then those teachings are reinforced by feminist teachers. It’s too late to discuss gender with them. In Warren Farrell’s latest book there is a debate with a feminized man – the man Warren debates is well-educated, writes well, but he uses quotes and sound bites from women’s groups that are laughable and easily disproved. These people are so caught up in the propganda that they can’t hear or see anything beyond the belief system. It’s like listening to someone quote Jesus when none of the quotes given are in the Bible – They believe what others have told them and never went to the source to see if it’s really true, as in “Why would women lie” or”Why would my pastor get it wrong.”

    Men who want to be good little boys pleasing mama for a hug, words of love and a cookie, later learn to please women teachers for grades and after that to please girl friends to “get a little action” or love, and by the time they are men they don’t have a clue how to be a man, they don’t respect men or masculinity, so they just do what they have always done, ggo along with women to get along with women and yet those men rarely seem to be pleasing either themselves or the women around them. These male feminists don’t get it, that as long as they have male sexual organs most feminist will never see them as equal to women.

    We need to get into the school and make sure sons spend time with men and not these clueless mama’s boys or man hating feminist women who seem to believe that “the end justifies the means” no matter who gets hurt.

  4. 4
    college activist Says:

    Eunech type males cannot compete for women…without playing the eunech game of seeing who’s the most pro-female….and anti-male!!

    They do not care if their anti-male hysteria is choking our boys…they are just so desperate they will do anything!!

    Desperate men are the fuel thats feeding anti-male hysteria!!

  5. 5
    DcFather Says:

    Feminists by definition:

    - above all else want to kill babies
    - lie about everything and make up the rest
    - are filled with hate going back to their Klan origins
    - are incapable of rational discussion
    - are obsessed with obtaining power and control over men as a means for compensating for their own inadequacies, usually ugliness
    - want to sacrifice children who survive the womb to promote tyranny and oppression of anybody who does not share their deranged affliction
    - oppose every fundamental right enshrined in the Constitution

    So, why would any normal man or woman want to engage in any sort of discussion with a feminazi? It would be easier to convince a Jihadist to convert to Judaism than to garner any interest in equality in a feminist.

  6. 6
    amfortas Says:

    Glenn, you know you are on the right track by the way the enemy goes beresk. More power to your keyboard, Sir.

    One day Jeff Fecke’s excuse for a beard (call that a beard? THIS is a beard!) will be white but inside he will be as Red as ever.

  7. 7
    Robert Stevens Says:

    As far as a 7 year old boy being “feminized” all it will take is his growing up to be man. He will learn the hard way just what the word feminazi means. He will watch as once warm and wonderful wymyn become the wild eyed hate mongering bitches I know and fear and will be stunned that they now hate him!
    I don’t worry about these “hatemongers” they will . like all their kind before them, be vanquished and fade into history!
    Feminism like the other”isms” is just one more failed atempt to replace the perfect plan of God with a flawed and failed human copy. It will fail and be “Gone with the wind”!

  8. 8
    shatteredmen Says:

    steven deluca said,

    They believe what others have told them and never went to the source to see if it’s really true, as in “Why would women lie” or”Why would my pastor get it wrong.”

    Why would their pastor get it wrong? Because they have been brainwashed like most of society into believing most of the victims of domestic violence are women. Couple this with the fact that most of those who attend church are women there is also a huge concern over not wanting to upset the apple cart.

    Instead of asking why more men do not attend church, they carter to the women who do. In reality, most of our churches have become feminized and do little to attract men.

    As the director of Shattered Men, I have written to dozens of Christian ministries to educate them to the truth of domestic violence from unbiased research only to be ignored by most of them. Since Shattered Men is faith based, that is we feel the only real solution to abuse is for each one to have a right relationship with GOD we also get ignored by secular groups although I am sure many of these secular resources do have a lot of men who are looking for faith based resources. Shattered Men is the only place I know for abused men to find help from a Biblical viewpoint. It is the only one that accepts abused women equally but since we are not worried about “donations” drying up as most pastors may, it does not concern me that we are….”politically incorrect” but as I said, since we address abused men, Christian ministries will no listen. Since we are faith based, secular resources do not. I guess we are in “no man’s land” but we will keep doing it this way…both are needed.

    http://www.shatterdmen.com/

  9. 9
    Big shooter Says:

    Fecke is the prototypical mangina.

  10. 10
    christianj Says:

    Top job Glenn, it’s always the most effective when those hypocrites come out screaming…injustice, injustice, injustice while they in turn ban all and sundry from making critical comments.

    Even Mike allowed feminist lackies to have their discussion here, but it will be a cold day in hell when those cowards allow it.

  11. 11
    jackal1994 Says:

    I ran into a similar situation on Ampersand’s alas a blog.
    That site runs the whole gambit of hypocrisy. Radical feminists are slinging remarks at you like “you’re a d*ckless f*ggot who hates women because he can’t get laid” who ampersand never reprimands.

    But a mens-righter can be thrown off for any reason. But the most popular reason is making too many good points. If you’re quick-witted and reveal feminist hypocrisy, you’re the first one to go. I think I was able to survive five postings before being tossed.

    I don’t remember what I was arguing about, but I remember that I made the point that the halls of power cravenly serve feminists.
    This she-wench from hell said something like:”if government served feminists then you would see pharmacists forced to carry the abortion pill, companies forced to hire 50%female CEO’s, blah blah blah.” The rest was all about FORCING parties to comply with feminist thought.

    When I responded that her feminist utopia sounded like a totalitarian nightmare, that post got deleted. And I could not post anymore.

    ESPECIALLY when you make great eye-opening insightful posts that might start to sway some of the less-insane members, is when you get banned.

  12. 12
    jackal1994 Says:

    Keep at it Glenn. You know what the WWII bombers used to say:

    When you’re getting flack, you know you’re over the target!

  13. 13
    mruffolo Says:

    China jails woman for Internet lies

    Police in central China have jailed a 50-year-old woman for posing as a teenage rape victim on the Internet, an official and state media said Wednesday.

    “She fabricated rumors and mislead the public,” said Wang Bing, an official with the propaganda department of the Tianqiao District Public Security Bureau in Jinan city.

    The woman, who is divorced and has one grown daughter, told people during online chats that her stepfather kept her locked up at home, arousing concern among her Internet friends who reported the case to local police, the China Daily said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071010/ap_on_hi_te/china_internet_lies_3

  14. 14
    Roger F. Gay Says:

    I’m thinkin’ Jeff Fecke maybe figers being a feminist blogger is the only shot he’s got at getting any. That has been the primary motivation of many young men on the left. Get ‘em on the rebound, eh Jeff!

  15. 15
    Roger F. Gay Says:

    OK Glenn, I read your interview. I must say that I am a little disappointed. It’s men’s fault for not showing up? Many have – many, many have. I have at least 7 instances of testimony on the public record in Congressional hearings. Fathers have dogged for political candidates, fought in state policy hearings, testified before state legislatures, written commentary and letters to the editor – and of course a bunch of testified before Congress as well.

    I’m not saying that pushing for support for fathers’ rights organizations is a bad idea. It’s a good idea. It’s needed. But you were on the right track, the right theme before you blamed the victims. Follow the money trail. It’s the money the government provides for anti-father, anti-family policy that keeps states from doing the right thing – not because they aren’t aware of the opposition.

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