The Marcotte Controversy–More Lunacy from Their Side, and Now Some Lunacy from ‘Our’ Side

Glenn wrote, “On Amanda’s blog, “Benjamin” writes…”

Why should we assume this is any one of “us”? This person — named Benjamin? — could be (and probably is) a radical fem in disguise. This is an old tactic — if the hard left can’t find a crazy racist or misogynist in real life to prove their point, they will certainly stoop to making it all up and then “quote” the fiction as if it were reality.

This has happened before…

Calif. Professor Guilty of Hate Crime Hoax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerri_Dunn

Kerri Dunn was a visiting psychology professor at Claremont McKenna College, who was convicted of perpetrating a hoax, in which she defaced her own car, by slashing its tires, breaking its windows, and spray painting several phrases containing ethnic slurs and a partial swastika, on the doors and hood of the car. She was also found guilty of filing a false police report and accused by the prosecutor of filing a false insurance claim on her car.

The same day as the hoax, she spoke from the audience of a public event on the topic of hate speech. She reported that someone else was responsible for the faked hate crime and spoke at a campus rally the following evening, blaming the incident on a covert group of racists being supported by the general atmosphere of the campus.

An FBI investigation eventually focused on Dunn herself as the perpetrator of the vandalism on her car. She was sentenced to one year in prison and ordered to pay a $20,000 fine. At the time of her conviction, Dunn continued to maintain her innocence. The incident followed a series of controversial — and widely considered to be racial — incidents at Claremont McKenna and the surrounding members of the Claremont Colleges.

More on Kerri Dunn and her pathology can be found via google

The problem with the Internet is that all are free to be whomever they wish to be. It is far too simple to provide oneself with a bogeyman needed to make a point.

Whether real or imagined, I still feel no sympathy for Amanda. She is pathological, but nonetheless needs to be confronted lest her readers believe that her opinion is correct, absent dissent.

Glenn,
I’m not really sure what the point of your article is. A public person (Amanda Marcotte) publicly accuses you, and men in general, in explicit terms, of extremely vile behavior and your response is to print an equally vile post (completely anonomous, and potentially fake) against Ms Marcotte.

It seems you are saying her insults aren’t that bad because *someone*, *somewhere* also insulted her. What!?

Ms Marcotte is a disgusting person, publicly displaying disgusting behavior and no one should apologize to her for anything.

They do it all of the time. I am shocked that you didn’t see this possibility Glenn. People like her do not deserve the benefit of the doubt….

Afford her the same as she does most men…guilty until proven innocent.

TMOTS

Maybe this explains Ms AM.

Rejection sets off alarms for folks with low self-esteem
http://www.physorg.com/printnews.php?newsid=111337064

Also I would guess she suffers from a odd form of borderline personality disorder/narcisism. In this kind of personality the person generally loves the other person when things go their way (ideation), and then in a flash can hate and vindictively go after them when things change.

if this is projected from individual interactions to the group instead, then the few bad experiences we all suffer from is the catalyst for this kind of person.

to put it another way… some time in the past she put her personality and who she is (since a borderline needs another person to complete their personality), in the hands of her partners. in her world these partners went through the borderline personaligy jig, and each ends up eventually falling from grace as each are full individuals and are not this persons completion. the first few turn out bad and basically their becomes the search for an explanation.

rather than turn to herself, because of narcisism makes her think she is perfect and the rest of the world is not, she then, to protect her ego, rejects all men as being failuers as her emotional other half. revenge then becomes the order of the day, and if reinforced, the way bloggs and feminists do, it can blow up to something that seems like paranoia, but its directed at the villian that is a villian for not being what she needs.

“The potency with which rejection activates the threat system in people with low self-esteem suggests that fear of rejection runs extremely deep in low self-esteem people,” Gyurak said.

the key here is that she has abandonment issues and that her total emersion in the cause insures (to her), that she will not be abandoned by this other entity. cause she didnt do this to the men, she must be better, and since the men “dit this to her” they must all be the same.

after all its easier to cast them into the same mold then wave them off rather than take a more nuanced view and come to terms with being rejected.

or is anyone here going to make the case that this woman doestn caust good men to run like a person who ate a whole bar of exlax.

Not surprisingly, people with low self-esteem do not fare well in close relationships as they are hypersensitive and hyper-reactive to dismissal and disapproval cues. Being in constant threat mode can also take a toll on one’s mental health, and hinders the ability to place rejection in a rational context.

The major difference here is that she is doing this to a whole group to pre-empt the situation. damn them all. howeever being i the public sphere means she writes as if she has the condition. (whether she does or not is not known by me conclusively. not the least reason being that i am not a mental health professional)

just go here and apply the paragraphs questions analysing whether your dealing with one and didnt know it: http://www.bpdcentral.com/resources/basics/indicators.shtml

Do you find yourself concealing what you think or feel because you’re afraid of the other person’s reaction or because it just doesn’t seem worth the horrible fight or hurt feelings that will follow?

Are you constantly being put down?

so? sound familiar… she has projected and is soured on her relationship to ALL men

and her borderline behavior expresses itself as the perfect feminist shill. total, unreachable, delusional, sadistic, vengefull, etc.

people that suffer from this (and women suffer having this much more than men), can do huge amounts of harm only exceeded by sociopaths, but no less life damaging.

she seeks to gain revenge on all men for some men rejecting her…

[if you want to get freudian, she is pissed that they think she is not worth 'raping']

now the questions about her from the site… (the most pertinent to save space)

Alternate between seeing people as either flawless or evil?

Have difficulty remembering the good things about a person they’re casting in the role of villain?

Alternate between seeing others as completely for them or against them?

Alternate between seeing themselves as either worthless or flawless?
(we dont see her worthless stage, but we do see her flawles stage. anyone want to take the bet that if they look at post volume and size it waxes and wanes)

Believe that others are either completely right or totally wrong?

Change their opinions depending upon who they’re with?
(she is with feminists, so she has the exact opinions of the leaders she wants to be with)

Remember situations very differently than other people, or find themselves unable to recall them at all?
(this point was Glenns bewilderment. this is because like everyone, people come from the default of mental health being the norm, and try to explain it in the framework of “what would make a healthy and whole person act that way”, and then spend lots of time trying to figure out what it is. when all it may be is that they are profoundly and subtly broken)

Base their beliefs on feelings rather than facts?

Not realize the effects of their behavior on others?

Have extreme moodiness that cycles very quickly (in minutes or hours)?

Feel emotions so intensely that it’s difficult to put others’ needs-even those of their own children-ahead of their own?

Feel distrustful and suspicious a great deal of the time?

Feel empty or like they have no self a great deal of the time?

Feel ignored when they are not the focus of attention?

Express anger inappropriately or have difficulty expressing anger at all?

Feel that they never can get enough love, affection, or attention?

i may not be a doctor, but i do know enough (because i did take the time to learn) about harmful people that seem normal and ruin your lives, narcisists, borderlines, scizo personality types, sociopaths/psychopaths, etc.

all those appear like normal people at first blush… and each has their own style that tends to befuddle the more normal contemporaries.

what makes it worse is that feminism is a movement built on exploiting this pschological problems to political benifits.

she is an abuser… and her abuser talk is that way because that is EXACTLY how she is. she projects to deflect… and like most people feels that “everyone is just like her” and so she feels she can reveal the dark secrets in their souls not due to insight, but due to the fact that she knows that they are like her and are abusive while sayuing they are not. that they build a sheild aroudn them to allow for the abuse to continue unabated for their own satisfaction.

anyone realize that her insight is that she is describing men through describing herself? and that deflects peoples attention from the fact that these acts and words and such with such venom are abuseive.

[she is the type of person that mentally abuses those she dislikes around her and blames them for her actions to absolve her. she hides behind words and social justice as justification. "i had to hit you, you were acting that way, and THAT gives me the right. stop acting that way and act the way i say or think is right, and you will not be attacked". ]

She should bring up feelings of pathos… not hate… for if you really understood her you would pity her and the life she will and is forced to lead, and the fact that she will never be healthy because her sickness is too useful to others.

Neither person made a coherent contribution. It is just a bunch of emotional venting by both people. The difference is Amanda has a forum to spew her hate filled diatribe, the other does not.

Hey Glenn, Sir. Don’t fall over yourself defending the vile. Fight this appaling woman by all means but when someone wants to yell as they thrust the sword in her guts, be so good as to stand back and make a little room. Good men such as you – and me for that matter – do not deserve the invective thrown against them by the likes of that woman but the vile will get all they deserve, even at the hands of the ill-mannered.

I promise to be very well mannered when I stick it to the Femonazi establishment after you vote me in as your President. There will be quite a bit of sword thrusting. But as you are such a fair minded chap I might ask you to be one of my Diplomats.

Vote #1 Amfortas. The Gnome you can trust – to thrust.

I love Marcotte. She’s totally a candidate for anti-intellectual of the year. Her piece is an anti-intellectual tour de force. According to her, if you say you support something, you oppose it and vice versa. And how does she know this? Uh, she’ll have to get back to us on that.

I think Mike hit this one correctly. Look at the style in which Marcotte writes…it isn’t difficult to image her actually posting that herself.
Glen, I honestly think your chivalrous urge is a small part of the problem. But even if you wish to proceed defensively, this post is so absurd that I’d let it pass simply on it’s ridiculousness. Its TOO absurd to even defend against, and it backfires in that you have now actually included this person, even if fictional, among our numbers, even if you find him distasteful. To acknowledge that a MRA can be this misguided is actually more of an indictment to us than anything else.
Please be careful, if I were her I’d now pounce and say, see, there are wackos over there and even some of the fellow wackos didn’t like this one…then she goes on and can say, “nice company you keep there Glenn”.

I too believe Mr. LaSalle may have a point.
Which brings us to a racist (demonstrated by their content) professor at Columbia.
(TY for the link in #2 Mr. LaSalle, I couldn’t remember when reading
recent Black and Right.)
Sorry for the O/T- but I just can’t help but assume the “cry for attention formula” is AGAIN being applied in this case as well.

No one outside the minority is paying attention anymore. I need a new medium .
(I claim a triple-thank you, thank you, thank you, I’ll be here all week, tip your site host!)

*sigh*
No one outside the coven is paying attention anymore. I need a new medium.
*sheesh*

Mike, you nailed it…….

Marcotte invented a new “straw man” and Glenn bought into it.

This may be stretching, but let’s follow this out…

Suppose you were a garden variety radical feminist who called herself aMANda… humm…. you’re an educated feminist of sorts, and you like to play word games. And like your far-leftwing fellow travelers, you think all the trouble with America (eg., racist misogynist patriarchal Republicans) can be found South of the Mason-Dixon line. And now let’s suppose you wanted to create a misogynist straw man to prove your psychotic points…. what name might you use?

Benjamin? Let’s see… in Hebrew, “ben” means “son” and “jamin” means “south”…

[Hebrew binymîn, son of the south]

Amanda, Amanda, Amanda. I think we got us a regular psycho here, boys, sure enough. Maybe the Edwards campaign had more foresight than Glenn gave them credit for.