The Neanderthal women adopted the feminazi mystique. Why not? They were almost as strong as their men, which is considerably stronger than the average Cro-Magnon who is not a football player.

Because their lawyers liked to make money without the bother of actually proving or disproving wrongdoing (risky business that) they enacted “no-fault” divorce legislation. This made it easy to asset strip the men and force them into peonage to pay the alimony and child support.

The Neanderthal men said, “Fark it! I won’t fark ‘em!”

No more Neanderthal children. No more Neanderthals.

A society the punishes parenthood disappears.

I agree with all of what Stephen Baskerville identified in his article and in his subsequent comment (#76). I also agree with those comments that were made that indicate that the “marriage strike” is a very serious calamity. However, it seems to me that hardly any of the commenters realize how serious that calamity is in the so-called “free West”.

The West and all developed nations, Japan, China and India included, have begun an irreversible course of self-destruction that will end in all of the developed nations being depopulated.

Nature abhors a vacuum. That is also true of a demographic vacuum. Whether it is through osmosis or through a violent implosion, something will always and unavoidably move in to fill a vacuum, even a demographic one. It is quite clear what it is that will fill the demographic vacuum in the developed nations. It will be nothing other than people from nations that still uphold the existence of the traditional nuclear family and the need for humanity to propagate itself.

The question is for how long the UN-promoted depopulation of the world (down to a billion people or less – perhaps as few as 300 million people in the whole world), and the related UN-promotion of the equalization of population densities throughout the world will progress by relatively peaceful means. It appears doubtful that the relatively peaceful global peace can be maintained much longer, just as it was no longer possible for the Roman Empire to maintain its Pax Romana once the Roman Empire began its collapse for very much the same reasons that are causing the collapse of the developed nations now: greed and corruption, excessive taxation and the deliberate destruction of the means by which the traditional nuclear families could continue to maintain themselves.

The “Barbarian” invasions were triggered by the collapse of the Roman Empire. They were not the cause of that collapse.

The collapse of the Roman Empire was the beginning of the dark age that followed and lasted for a thousand years. We should worry about how long the dark age will last that is beginning now. It is too late to worry about anything that could possibly be done to ward off that dark age.

Civilizations come and go. Ours has had the bun.

–Walter Schneider

From a guy’s perspective, it doesn’t really matter since there are zero benefits to marriage that are not already available to them without incurring the legal, financial, and social risks inherent to men in marriage today.

And whether or not you are correct, it’s men who bear the burden of the risk.

These States are sparsely populated and provide the “movement” with the opportunity to organize in a place were a relatively small number of eligible voters can influence the outcome of elections.

Baskerville and ACFC could encourage people to relocate to one of these States for that purpose. I would make the move in a heartbeat. If people aren’t willing to make these kinds of sacrifices, then get use to the idea of “more oppression”.

I think … Senator or Governor Baskerville … has a very nice ring to it. This is entirely possible. North Dakota already has a large percentage of the population in favor of shared parenting as we saw in 2006.

There’s a lot at stake for the people who rely on this industry for their livelihood and to think they will change their ways just because we are right is foolhardy. There is also a great deal at stake for every State in this country that relies so heavily on the revenue created by this industry.

I don’t think most of you people have any idea what we’re up against. This is institutionalized slavery and will not be corrected by a good old fashioned debate.

People need to stop going along with the program. When the day comes that your freedom, your children and the future of our country are more important than your own skin, then we will be making progress. Until then it’s all talk, and talk ain’t going to change a dad-gum thing.

Why should we think that the public is ready to hear this message? Isn’t it possible that society isn’t ready for the message we have to offer and a “debate” would be premature and unsuccessful?

It’s a fact that State and local governments rely heavily on the revenue generated by the “child support” industry to balance their books. The States are absolutely convinced they need this money to survive.

We are also talking about taking away the livelihood of millions of people. Unnecessary judges, lawyers, caseworkers, psychologists and all the rest will be out of a job. That translates into millions of mortgages, car loans and all the rest that accompanies these high paying professional jobs. We’re talking about a huge economic impact.

The simple fact of the matter is that it’s going to take a lot more than a national debate to rectify a situation that is so far “out of control”. There will never be sweeping changes gained by means of “reform”.

These people love to hear the word “reform”, because it means more of the same, under a new name, with a slightly different twist.

People should get use to the idea, that we are in for decades more of this oppression, with the possibility that it will only get worse.

Who was it that said, “Desperate times call for desperate measures”.

• mass incarcerations without trial or charge
• forced confessions
• children forcibly separated from parents who are under no suspicion of legal wrongdoing and parents stripped of the care, custody, and companionship of their children without explanation
• government agents entering the homes, demanding and examining private papers and personal effects, and seizing the property of citizens who are under no suspicion of legal wrongdoing
• official court records, including hearing tapes and transcripts, doctored and falsified with the knowledge of court officials and evidence fabricated against the innocent
• defendants denied the constitutional right to face their accusers
• bureaucratic police authorized to issue subpoenas and arrest warrants against parents, with no hearing and contrary to due process of law
• special courts created specifically to process parents for political offenses
• forced labor facilities created specifically for parents
• children instructed to hate their parents with the backing of government officials
• children forced by government officials to act as informers against their parents
• children abused and killed with the backing of government officials
• knowingly false allegations, for which no evidence is presented, accepted as fact without proof, overturning the presumption of innocence, and not punished when demonstrated to be untrue
• parents ordered by government officials to separate from their spouses, on pain of losing their children
• parents forced to pay the private fees of court officials they have not hired and whose services they have not sought or used, on pain of incarceration
• parents suspected of no legal wrongdoing punitively stripped of their property and income, sometimes at gunpoint, and reduced to penury
• government officials using the mass media to vilify private American citizens, and political leaders using their offices as platforms to verbally attack private American citizens, who have no right of reply or opportunity to defend themselves
• parents jailed without trial reportedly beaten, in at least one case fatally, and denied medical attention while in police custody.

Stephan Baskerville
March, 2007

Don’t mean to babble on, but there’s also the fact that that America’s feminazi princesses just can’t do without the Nanny State and its financial and legislative support.

The only way things will REALLY change is when women start to suffer the same abuses as men. Remember, women are earning more than their male counterparts in America’s major cities. When they start having THEIR fortunes pillaged; when THEY start having to pay ridiculous sums in alimony; when and if THEY start to lose sole custody of their children – things will change. There’ll be a massive uproar, believe me. When WOMEN start to lose, we’ll all hear about it.

Today’s women say that it’s unromantic for men to want prenuptial agreements. Tomorrow’s women will tell men that it’s unromantic for them NOT to want premuptial agreements. I can just hear the doublestandards brewing!

The marriage crisis is the premiere stage for today’s gender war against men. It’s the misandrist battle royale. That’s the real problem. Once feminists are done with men altogether, they’ll cast us aside, have children through artificial insemination, and have the state pay their daycare costs while they go off to their ‘careers.’

And let’s see, a huge percentage of elected officials are . . . trained lawyers! Do the math.

The only way that things COULD change is if states got out of the marriage game alltogether and marriage became a private contract between two parties than could only be argued and enforced in a civil court. In this way a marriage contract could be as enforceable as any business contract. Most judges are loathe to mess around with well written business contracts, as opposed to family court judges, who are all too ready to ignore precedent, evidence and common sense as they go along. A civil court judge would not be long in his job if he were identified as a wing-nut by the legal community. Remember, judges keep their jobs because of lawyers.

Make marriage solely a private contract between two parties, and the lawyers still stand to make money through contingency fees. They can still have the loser pay their bills as well, although that happens somewhat less in civil court. Either way, the whole thing hinges on making sure the legal shysters can continue to hit paydirt. But the big drawback with this plan is that lawyers will start convincing middle class women to sue their spouses for 20 million dollars.

Plus, if you took the state out of marriage, what would happen to all of the Nanny State jobs that are connected to the family courts? Where would all the half-assed social workers and child support payment beaurocrats go? Believe me, the state has a vested interest in making sure that marriage laws stay right where they are.

Will there ever be a cure? Who knows. But we have to try something.

Life is short, and I desire to raise a family. I have begun steps to secure citizenship in another country. Why work for decades to have no family to share the fruits of labor. Or worse have the fruits taken away for little or no reason, against your will to be given by to the enemy.

America is no place to be a father. The risk is too high.

I am not surprised the boys are lost – preferring drugs, sex, alcohol, violence to mast the pain for growing up in a dysfunctional feminist family.

American family may get worse for children when the parents are the same sex.

stay single and don’t reproduce! ever.