When Marc Rudov and Lis Wiehl debate issues of sex on Fox News, the first thing that comes into question is credibility. This is especially true when roasting the dubious qualities of women’s “Taser Parties”.
Lis Wiehl feels that women having taser parties is somehow tantamount to a Tupperware party (video). Rudov realistically pointed out that under the Violence Against Women Act, all a woman has to do is claim “fear” as justification for tasering and even killing man.
Wiehl’s dangerous position explicitly reveals the in-vivo tragedy of VAWA: Where one’s subjective state of “fear” is the legal standard justifying most any action by a woman (as opposed to a “real threat” standard), there is no telling what women will do (and try get away with). Civil Rights advocates need to wake up on this issue: racist white women can throw high-tech war parties too.
The problem with tasers as a “standard female accessory” is the unconstitutionally-low standard for female behavior established by the Violence Against Women Act. In the VAWA environment, use of a taser to prevent a rape is no different than abuse of a taser for an entirely scurrilous reason. VAWA makes it impossible to discern the difference between the two.
During the debate, Rudov pointed out the well-documented (and now incontrovertible) fact that women are “equal opportunity domestic abusers”.
Feminists really hate the truth. So, a self-proclaimed liberal “media watchdog” named “Media Matters” decided to pile on the debate, hoping to score a win from perfume-infused rooms. Media Matters launched a major campaign last week apparently intended to get Marc Rudov removed from Neil Cavuto’s show.
Media Matters claims that women are not “equal opportunity domestic abusers” — essentially calling Rudov a liar. It went on to display arrogant defiance in the matter, censoring virtually every thoughtful or studious comment made to their website inconsistent with their gender agenda.
Instead of posting the many thoughtful scientific comments submitted to their website (I have geek friends), Media Matters approved a number of insane comments about Rudov such as “like so many right-wing macho men, he probably has a little, itty-bitty pee-pee” (archived in case Media Matters tries to play games).
Then, Media Matters claimed it was unable to find CDC cites supporting Rudov’s position. Here is one that I had no trouble finding published by both the CDC and the American Journal of Public Health, titled “Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence”. This report finds that women initiated 70% of the violence in non-reciprocal situations. (The long list of intelligentsia running Media Matters should be paying close attention to the giant flushing noise sucking their credentials straight down the toilet).
The truth is this: there are many different kinds of studies on domestic violence. Some study the front end of the issue, others the results. Some are conducted according to accepted scientific principles, and the ones conducted by feminist organizations generally are not.
Some are based on crime reports. It is well-documented that men do not call domestic violence hotlines after being assaulted by a wife. If a man responds with physical force, he is most likely the one to be arrested (because she has a bruise). When family conflict becomes chronic, women end up dead or severely injured. Crime reports only show us the lopsided outcome of VAWA laws. While feminists would like to believe differently, this does not conflict with solid studies based on the Conflict Tactical Scales (CTS), which consistently report that women are responsible for initiating at least half of all domestic altercations.
Some studies are conducted by feminist organizations who uniformly apply conveniently-modified versions of CTS in their surveys. “Convenient” means that a survey did not ask women what they did to men. This is the methodology used to create the National Institute of Justice Report “Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence”, which flowed into the Department of Justice Report “Family Violence Statistics”, which is the basis for statistics alleged in the CDC’s fact sheet “Intimate Partner Violence”. These studies are the real lies that Media Matters should be jumping up and down about.
Dr. Murray Straus (who is the first leading researcher that called for federal domestic violence programs in the 1970’s), dislikes feminist political abuses of statistics as much as I do. Straus has an excellent paper titled “The Controversy Over Domestic Violence By Women” that explains why data from different reports varies, what it means, and why crime data does not imply that we should continue ignoring the fact that women initiate at least half of all serious spousal altercations. Recently, Straus came out point-blank calling for women to stop abusing men.
Dr. Straus has thousands of excellent reasons for insisting that science trump radical feminism when it comes to very important matters such as domestic violence. To condone non-serious violence by women and blame it on men is to guarantee that many women will continue a pattern of dangerous behavior that gets some of them seriously injured or killed.
Anyone who truly cares about women must support the work of Dr. Murray Straus, the National Family Violence Research Center, Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting (RADAR), Marc Rudov, and the many others who know we must (for the first time) address the endemic problem of female-on-male violence in order to reduce serious domestic violence outcomes
Media Matters is in big trouble. Promoting or condoning violence by women (which we know it ends up with some women being seriously injured or dead), places Media Matters in an anti-woman position that no sane human being can possibly agree with.
Moving forward, Fox News should consider following through with some serious news journalism on the topics Cavuto covers. These debates often reveal public policies of great national consequence that are as mindless and destructive as the weak positions Lis Wiehl often assumes. A series on the Violence Against Women Act would be an eye-popper to start with.
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David R. Usher is Senior Policy Analyst for the True Equality Network
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college activist said,
If we could…**End feminist domestic violence arrest quotas** we would then see the real story of who’s the attacker!!
….END FEMINIST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ARREST QUOTAS!!
November 25, 2007 at 10:09 pm
college activist said,
…I met another man that was attacked by his girlfriend!! He called the police, and they arrested him!!
He was held in jail until he plead guilty to a lessor charge!!
He was then forced to take anger management, and was forced to admit he was guilty(which he wasn’t) or he would not pass the class and would go back to jail!!
I’m begining to believe that they are manufacturing a crisis by forcing all these guilty pleas in order to keep the femi-pork dollars flowing!!..
Can some police jurisdictions be held accounteable for crisis manufacturing at the expense of innocent men??
November 25, 2007 at 10:16 pm
fourthwire said,
Kudos, Dave Usher, for revealing the extent that feminists will go to in their war on men and boys here.
Media Matters no doubt wants Marc Rudov off the air as quickly as possible, for the simple reason that he’s a VISIBLE Men’s Right’s Activist.
And since feminist dogma is essentially a collection of lies, half-truths, and exaggerations, they dare not risk the exposure of open debate.
“Anyone who truly cares about women must support Dr. Murray Straus, Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting (RADAR), Marc Rudov, and the many others who know that the most overlooked method to prevent serious domestic violence is to, for the first time, begin to impact women’s well-known attitude that it is OK to abuse the men in their lives. We must reform the Violence Against Women Act. Sex is not the problem. Violence is.”
Thank you, Dave Usher!
November 25, 2007 at 11:15 pm
Marcus1962 said,
The answer is a Marriage and Dating Strike.
November 25, 2007 at 11:43 pm
snootfish said,
True story. Mother in law hits son in law. She breaks his glasses which cuts his nose. His mistake? He calls the police. Of course, he is arrested not her.
He gets an assault charge. The mother in law is advised to return home (hundreds of miles away) and file a protective order there.
His lawyer quits (doesn’t return his money) when he refuses to agree to a protective order. A protective order is granted (rubber stamped).
He is harassed by the Court hundreds of miles away in an abusive fashion. A “status hearing” is set on the day his grandmother had life threatening surgery. When he asked for a different court date, he was called a liar. When he got an affidavit from the doctor’s office, the doctor was called a liar, etc.
Absolutely incredible. Once he got to a jury on the assault charge the jury acquited him after about 5 minutes deliberation.
There is a lot to be learned from this — one thing is the importance of juries. Most of the extreme abuses whether family law, protective orders, or ERISA all occur in the absence of juries. A lot of the crap would end if we took seriously our constitutional rights to juries (federal and state both) — stop making exceptions and stop denigrating juuries. I have seen juries rule in favor of common sense including in the area of family law and female related criminal allegations over and over and over again. The true abuses usually occur when juries are not involved.
November 26, 2007 at 12:15 am
poiuyt said,
The alleged defence against violence on which other people or nations are dissposessed of their property and or their lives.
But is this a monopoly method exclusively used by feminism, whom themselves must have mastered this from somewhere ?
Perhaps its a legitimate political strategy reserved for worthies to use on unworthies everywhere.
November 26, 2007 at 1:14 am
Roger Knight said,
Never, ever cop a plea of guilty.
If you pled because you QUIT, not because you did it, you deserve the punishment as much as the defendant who did it.
ALWAYS fight it out to the jury trial, and then give the jury a chance.
Unfortunately we don’t get juries in protection order cases and divorces.
November 26, 2007 at 3:37 am
amfortas said,
“If you pled because you QUIT, not because you did it, you deserve the punishment as much as the defendant who did it.”
Gordon Bennett, Roger. That’s a tad harsh. God help us if we got what we deserved for our weaknesses but to equate the punishment to that deserved by the guilty is over the top.
Never mind though, I have a good job in line for you when I become President. I have a little list….
Vote #1 Amfortas. The Fair but Firm One.
November 26, 2007 at 4:52 am
mruffolo said,
I do not mind women arming themselves, as long as a woman is charged and punished by our governemnt for a crime they committed.
Today American government and media worships women, so they ignore or do not punish a woman for crime. Feminism/s attitude is held strong in America that men are bad and women are good.
In family court there is no jury. In criminal court for domestic violence charges, there are mostly no juries. Most of the discrimination and injustice is at the front end in government enforcement and hearings, while the media, family, and friends show little understanding or compassion.
For a man this makes women a risk to be around (Marc’s point and our point - baby, dating, or marriage strike), and develops a general distrust in the media and government, and I do not want that.
I want justice - consistent decsion making by judges and police and other government employees, and I desire a media and culture that does not worship women.
November 26, 2007 at 8:10 am
mruffolo said,
Fact:
Women are just as likely as men to engage in partner aggression.
Men experience over one-third of domestic violence (DV)-related injuries.
Men are far less likely to report DV incidents than women.
The myths about domestic violence are numerous.
Many of these myths are based on DV studies that use biased survey methods.
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November 26, 2007 at 8:20 am
Jim Peterson said,
As predicted, they were OK with him saying that men should not pay for dinner…but the moment he started talking about their actual legislative agenda, they went off the wall trying to get him taken off the air.
November 26, 2007 at 9:56 am
mruffolo said,
RADAR responds,
“Media Matters” Censors Inconvenient Facts
http://www.mediaradar.org/alert20071126.php
November 26, 2007 at 11:28 am
fourthwire said,
And for those women (or men) who would claim that tasers are safe, please note that three people were killed by tasers in the last three weeks, according to the story at:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312753,00.html
November 26, 2007 at 11:49 am
David R. Usher said,
I agree that Tasers are dubious devices. Anything that delivers enough of an electriical jolt to take a person down is likely to cause injury or death, depending on that person’s physical health and tolerance to electricity. Since a taser cannot know how a particular individual will respond, the target pays the price for any overshoot. I know something about this because I spent years doing large industrial three-phase and single-phase control panels requiring 10-ma GLCI/GFCI (people-safe) protection, and am an expert in grounding issues and ground-fault protection.
I think we are going to see a lot of big lawsuits over these things, and see them removed from the consumer market. I do believe the manufacturer may be liable for selling a product that is much more fatal than it is represented to be.
Police are now getting lazy and using tasers as a one-size-fits-all problem solver, instead of saving them for situations involving a large person who is actually physically violent — a person they might not be able to subdue using martial arts skills. Substituting the use of a weapon that is now known to be regularly fatal for good police work is a key legal issue yet to be tested.
From what I can see, none of the recent three deaths involved individuals where a taser was actually called for. This means that huge lawsuits against cities and/or states should be forthcoming, as well as the manufacturer.
There is no substitute for good police work — and this includes tasers. If I had my way, police would spend some time training as cowboys, and learn to use a lasso. There are other “legacy” devices that can also be used to take a person down easily without risk of killing them.
November 26, 2007 at 12:48 pm
Mike LaSalle said,
“like so many right-wing macho men, he probably has a little, itty-bitty pee-pee”
On the bright side, Media Matters has inadvertently done us the service of proving LaSalle’s Law yet again….
LaSalle’s Law: “As an online discussion on the topic of human sexuality grows longer, the probability that someone will impugn a male opponent’s manhood approaches one.”
November 26, 2007 at 12:49 pm
David R. Usher said,
I just found an interesting Fox News article. Media Matters is/was founded/funded by George Soros, in cooperation with Hillary Clinton. This is a major radical liberal/feminist disinformation machine operating as a nonprofit.
See: Online Slime Machine Media Matters Co-Founded by Hillary Clinton
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299056,00.html
That Media Matters took notice of Marc is a great compliment to him.
November 26, 2007 at 4:29 pm
college activist said,
It seeems the most effective MRA. will be able to take aim in even the most choppiest of waters..And still hit the target!!..
I’lle be nominateing MENSCOLLEGEACTIVIST” ..Most influential person of the year very soon….There are 6 contenders and its a very close race!!…
Hey the Menscollegeactivist of the year 2007 might not seem like much, but for historians…It might mean something!!!
November 26, 2007 at 5:01 pm
college activist said,
As trivial as it may sound…
the top three contendors for menscollegeactivist.org…most effective activist of 2007 are..
Marc Rudov
Dr.warren Farrel
Mr. Glenn sacks
November 26, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Thomas said,
David - great article - really nails the subject matter.
Oddly enough - Media Matters finally started posting comments in favor of Rudov - now the blog looks a bit more realistic and the points are strong that the “Women are the only victims” paradyne took a big hit despite mediamatters attempt at twisting it the other way.
One of my favorite posts though - goes to a misandrist who says and I paraphrase “what a P*ssy” Is this comical or what. Here this guy is claiming to treat women as equals and that Marc is not man enough to do so and then calls Marc a dergatory term which denigrades women as well. As the liberals say - Priceless.
November 27, 2007 at 1:21 pm
David R. Usher said,
Interesting they opened the comments back up. They had closed the comments as of last Saturday. Perhaps the management told the feminists running the street show to clean up their act.
Given the fact that their article is dumb as a bag of ball peen hammers, I think they should do a follow-up alert/article to straighten the issue out. If they intend to be credible, this is the only option to pursue.
November 27, 2007 at 2:51 pm
tom of covent garden said,
Michael Kimmel criticises Strauss’s research on intimate partner violence, for failing to consider incidents of violence where an ex-partner is violent, claiming most women are attacked by ex-partners. Can anyone confirm or deny the validity of Kimmel’s criticism? (Because I don’t know who to believe).
November 27, 2007 at 3:54 pm
David R. Usher said,
I don’t know that Straus has gotten into this area. He does look at never-involved partners in http://pubpages.unh.edu/%7Emas2/CTS21.pdf, table 22, which explains lower dv rates outside of relationships.
It is pretty well known that DV rates increase with divorce, most likely surrounding the divorce itself. Tremendous emphasis is put on what men do. But my experience suggests that both men’s and women’s violence escalates: there are many control issues, a shortage of personal power, a feeling that things are out of control, jealousy (real and imagined), and of course custody battles.
November 27, 2007 at 11:52 pm
mruffolo said,
After RADAR’s alert was posted, Media Matters approved an additional 31 comments submitted between last Wednesday and last Friday. All of the previously withheld comments were critical of Media Matters’ position. The chronology of events, as best we can reconstruct it is as follows:
= Tuesday, November 20 - Media Matters posts article saying the claim that “women are equal-opportunity domestic abusers” is false.
= Tuesday through Friday - Media Matters editors post 32 of the 63 comments submitted.
= Sometime Friday or Saturday - Media Matters disables posting of any further comments on this article.
= Late Sunday night - RADAR issues an alert, notifying the public that Media Matters is not allowing factual comments that disagree with them.
= Sometime Monday - After RADAR’s alert is distributed, Media Matters’ editors post an additional 31 comments critical of their position, 29 of which had been submitted the previous Wednesday, 1 submitted Thursday, and 1 submitted Friday.
A number of people who received our alert have asked who Media Matters is. The best information we’ve been able to find is at
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299056,00.html.
http://www.mediaradar.org/alert20071127.php
November 28, 2007 at 10:41 am