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Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig Rebuts Latest Tall Tale of Giraffe Evolution

2007-12-18
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Darwinists sometimes think that they can account for the evolutionary origin of a complex biological feature simply by citing some kind of experimental or theoretical evidence showing that the complex feature would have provided a selective advantage to its owner. However, such Darwinists forget that, as many have recounted, natural selection only accounts for the survival of the fittest, not the arrival of the fittest . Evidence that a given feature—when fully formed—provides some selective advantage does not demonstrate that the feature can be evolved in a step-wise, mutation-by-mutation fashion. If Michael Behe is correct, then irreducibly complex features require many parts to be present all-at-once in order to get any functional advantage whatsoever. As Charles Darwin famously wrote, such features defy a Darwinian explanation:

If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.

Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig, senior scientist at the Max Planck Institute for plant breeding research in Cologne, Germany, takes Darwin’s challenge seriously. He has recently responded to a paper entitled “Winning by a Neck: Tall Giraffes Avoid Competing With Shorter Browsers.” As might be expected from the paper’s title, it addresses the survival of the giraffe’s long neck but not the arrival of the giraffe’s long neck. In short, the paper assumes that a complex feature like the giraffe’s neck could arise “by numerous, successive, slight modifications” (Darwin’s words) and assumes that merely accounting for the advantage given by such a complex feature is sufficient to demonstrate its Darwinian evolution. Dr. Lönnig writes in response:

One of the basic problems with natural selection, however, is that – to illustrate – it only acts like a sieve which selects (screens) tea leaves from a certain size onwards 11 but, of course, sieves never create the tea leaves themselves (for a detailed discussion on the limits of natural selection, see http://www.weloennig.de/NaturalSelection.html.). Hence, it is necessary to clearly distinguish between selection and the rich but limited genetic potential for phenotypic variations of any species (the range of ‘tea leaves’, so to speak, that it can offer for survival to the sieve of natural selection). So for the smaller browsers this definitely means that phenotypic variation is limited too. Moreover, whatever ‘selection pressure’ may exist, one may safely predict it will never transform them into 6 m tall animals at all. And naturally this was true for the past as well.

(Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig, Appendix on Cameron & du Toit (2007): “Winning by a Neck: Tall Giraffes Avoid Competing With Shorter Browsers” of the Paper: The Evolution of the Long-Necked Giraffe: What do we really know? .)

Lönnig provides an excellent critical analysis of Cameron & du Toit’s paper, observing that even if their data is correct, “it would prove nothing concerning evolution by the postulated random mutations and natural selection.” Lönnig concludes that “Cameron and du Toit are trying to force the state of being of the giraffe and other browsers into the Procrustean bed of perpetual Darwinian evolution by natural selection, taking for granted that mutations have produced the genetic variation necessary to evolve all the animals now found.”

Read Lönnig’s full response to the Cameron & du Toit paper at http://www.weloennig.de/Giraffe_Note_on_Cameron_and_duToit.pdf 

Originally published at evolutionnews.org.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A7HIRZB7E57P3Q3ITPBABORLKM nick

    it’s fittest to reproduce, actually. the more you reproduce, the more your genes will be passed down to the next generation (and vice versa). 

    “making life easier” isn’t the point.  the point is that evolution isn’t TRYING to do anything.  it has no desire.  evolution is the RESULT of natural progress.  furthermore, it’s not that progress described by evolution would attempt to make anything.  it just uses what works.  if something is good enough, i’ll continue to exist.

    and it hasn’t gotten any easier? we’ve evolved larger and more efficient brains to allow for us to dominate the globe.  we have grown more and more resistant (read up on our immune system) to infection, but at the same time those agents have evolved to handle our defenses.  the ones that have not evolved quickly enough have died out.  those that have are stronger for it.  read up on the rough skinned newt.

    yes we have evolved to live longer lives.  bacteria can live hours or days, many insects usually live a month or so.  dogs and cats live about a decade.  humans, elephants, and tortoises live several decades.  the further you look down this “branch” of the tree of life, the longer the lives get.  evolution.  however, keep in mind that shorter lived organisms generally have the potential to evolve faster.  longer lives aren’t always entirely beneficial (there are exceptions, of course).

    we haven’t NEEDED to get by on six months without water because we’ve lived near fresh water.  your faster metabolism has allowed your body to regulate its temperature far better than reptiles, which don’t have that ability.  they do, however, go far longer without meals and water than we do.  it’s a trade off.  we don’t have to sit in the sun to keep warm, but we have to eat more.

    yes, women died in childbirth (some still do) in large numbers, but on average our species multiplied faster because of the big brains that cause those women to endure so much pain/injury during childbirth.  sure, having a smaller head/brain might’ve made it easier on the women giving birth, but the children wouldn’t have been as smart.  note, though, that with these big, useful brains we’ve been able to figure out ways to DRASTICALLY decrease the mortality rates of women during childbirth.

    for your “arnie” point, i’d again urge you to look up the rough skinned newt.  moreover, you don’t think our extreme ability to manipulate our resources with such skill is a great set of genes to have?  we’ve evolved a brain that is capable of understanding and applying vast amounts of knowledge.  we’ve got one hell of a (group of) arnie swartzenegger gene(s) if you ask me.

    it seems like you have a limited understanding of actual evolutionary processes.  i think if you did some research on it you’d probably appreciate it more.. or at least stop hating on it so much

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  • amfortas

    One can see some useful academic knowledge-work that has come from a Darwinian perspective on life. The more traditional perspectives, of course, have produced even more productive ‘getting on with living’ work.

    A point. A question or two.

    “Survival of the Fittest’ is a great and well known phrase. But what does it mean? What does it presage?

    Fittest *for what? Fittest to survive? Whoops. That would be a tautology. And pretty meaningless.

    Fittest *to what? Fittest to fit an environmental niche? So what? It seems the niches are pretty danmed small and restricted to a very few places in an enormous Universe.

    Fittest for the future? Whoops. There would have to be some sort of future being moved toward for which ‘fitness’ is slowly being achieved. Or are we perhaps going backwards? How do we know? We don’t even know what ‘fittest’ means unless we presume it is us.

    Maybe fitness just, simply, for evolving life. Hold on, though. What do we mean by ‘evolve’ and ‘life’. It would make no developmental sense from what we see.

    Life hasn’t got a smidgen easier to be in. We haven’t ‘evolved’ a longer life, even after a couple of billion years. Or a better one in terms of disease, eating, reproducing. How come we haven’t evolved genes that would keep us alive for 500 years? That would have been useful. Why hasn’t our metabolism been refined by evolution so that we can get by for six months on a cup of water? Eating and drinking every damned day has been a friggin’ chore. Women were dying in droves in difficult childbirth right up to a century ago, and it wasn’t a new gene set that changed it. How come? One would have thought, from a ‘life’ perspective, that dying in childbirth would have been evolved out of by now. Now THAT would be evolution! That’s the sort of fitness that we could appreciate.

    And the fitness mechanism. Slowly developing fitter and fitter genes (whatever that means) and the culling and withering of less fitting genes? One would think by now there would be Arnie Swartzenegger style genes all over the place and hardly any ‘unfit’ ones left. But we are so fragile. We cark it in huge numbers by the minute.

    Bugger Giraffes.







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