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	<title>Comments on: Liberals actually love guns</title>
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		<title>By: Ouderkirk</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/12/19/liberals-actually-love-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-56453</link>
		<dc:creator>Ouderkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>without question liberals have a love/hate relationship with guns. 

Someone posited the notion that if the governement is the only one to have guns, then what is to stop them from trampling the rights of the individual citizen with impunity. 

Chuck Schumer has said sometime in the past, that government officials like himself should not have to have to live in fear for their lives, for their public service. While it is complicated to rebut such an argument and still appear to be civilized, it is not impossible. But that mindset, is the nut of the liberal politician&#039;s argument against guns.

The counter to Schumer&#039;s argument is that I would rather government (and its agents like Schumer) fear and armed populace, rather than an unarmed populace fearing an armed government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>without question liberals have a love/hate relationship with guns. </p>
<p>Someone posited the notion that if the governement is the only one to have guns, then what is to stop them from trampling the rights of the individual citizen with impunity. </p>
<p>Chuck Schumer has said sometime in the past, that government officials like himself should not have to have to live in fear for their lives, for their public service. While it is complicated to rebut such an argument and still appear to be civilized, it is not impossible. But that mindset, is the nut of the liberal politician&#8217;s argument against guns.</p>
<p>The counter to Schumer&#8217;s argument is that I would rather government (and its agents like Schumer) fear and armed populace, rather than an unarmed populace fearing an armed government.</p>
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		<title>By: mhturner</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/12/19/liberals-actually-love-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-56450</link>
		<dc:creator>mhturner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who could be against the SCHIP bill? After all, it was written in accordance with what is now the true American spirit: &quot;Find a way for someone else to pay your expenses!&quot; This country has been transformed from a land where you reap what you sow, to one where we all pay something for nothing so that we may all get something for nothing. That is the true nature of this bill, yet another tax-and-spend scheme, using the poor little children as political shields. What descent human could oppose a measure to assure their health?&quot;

Everyone just loves Santa Clause, except for those from whom he must steal in order to be able to give away so much, The SCHIP expansion bill is another instance of our government&#039;s attempts to remove financial responsibility from a broad class of people, and instead burden those who are powerless to refuse. Rather than have everyone, or at least those who have chosen to raise children, pay for their health care, Congress is still attempting to single out a minority which they believe will not be able to defend itself, those who manufacture, sell and consume tobacco. 

The unfair and illogical use of tobacco taxes to finance programs which are being touted as essential to such a large class of people, when coupled with attempts to actually discourage tobacco&#039;s consumption, is one of the poorest strategies this writer has ever encountered. Here is an example of a business depending for its survival on increased sales of a product, and spending an enormous advertising budget to convince customers they simply cannot live without it. When everyone involved ignores the manufacturer&#039;s repeated announcements that it intends to curtail or discontinue production of the product,  for which there is no substitute, there can be nothing but disappointment. The customer, who hadn&#039;t even considered shopping elsewhere, is left with nothing but empty promises, and real frustration upon finding out that those who would have provided something are no longer in business, because the competition&#039;s claims were too good to be true.


Congress would not even dare to consider financing a measure benefiting children with taxes on such things as baby food, diapers, children&#039;s clothing, juvenile furniture or toys. Even more outlandish would be the mere thought of doing away with dependents&#039; tax exemptions to fund their health care and education. Never in a million years could we count on something that fair happening in the land of the free and the home of the brave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who could be against the SCHIP bill? After all, it was written in accordance with what is now the true American spirit: &#8220;Find a way for someone else to pay your expenses!&#8221; This country has been transformed from a land where you reap what you sow, to one where we all pay something for nothing so that we may all get something for nothing. That is the true nature of this bill, yet another tax-and-spend scheme, using the poor little children as political shields. What descent human could oppose a measure to assure their health?&#8221;</p>
<p>Everyone just loves Santa Clause, except for those from whom he must steal in order to be able to give away so much, The SCHIP expansion bill is another instance of our government&#8217;s attempts to remove financial responsibility from a broad class of people, and instead burden those who are powerless to refuse. Rather than have everyone, or at least those who have chosen to raise children, pay for their health care, Congress is still attempting to single out a minority which they believe will not be able to defend itself, those who manufacture, sell and consume tobacco. </p>
<p>The unfair and illogical use of tobacco taxes to finance programs which are being touted as essential to such a large class of people, when coupled with attempts to actually discourage tobacco&#8217;s consumption, is one of the poorest strategies this writer has ever encountered. Here is an example of a business depending for its survival on increased sales of a product, and spending an enormous advertising budget to convince customers they simply cannot live without it. When everyone involved ignores the manufacturer&#8217;s repeated announcements that it intends to curtail or discontinue production of the product,  for which there is no substitute, there can be nothing but disappointment. The customer, who hadn&#8217;t even considered shopping elsewhere, is left with nothing but empty promises, and real frustration upon finding out that those who would have provided something are no longer in business, because the competition&#8217;s claims were too good to be true.</p>
<p>Congress would not even dare to consider financing a measure benefiting children with taxes on such things as baby food, diapers, children&#8217;s clothing, juvenile furniture or toys. Even more outlandish would be the mere thought of doing away with dependents&#8217; tax exemptions to fund their health care and education. Never in a million years could we count on something that fair happening in the land of the free and the home of the brave!</p>
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