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		<title>By: GreatMRNI</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/01/06/why-cicero/comment-page-1/#comment-57340</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article Thomas, well said.</description>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes roger...  but socialists find all that very bad for their worship of constant change...   they find merit bad, because its a point to oust power... and the find this stuff bad, because its a merit way to oust power..   

the point is that communism finds such thigns inconvenient...  since they come from the otehr side of the problem.

americans generally accept that the liberty of one is all important... so its better that 10 dishonest men go free, rather than one honest one be imprisoned. 

communism is the opposite... which its better to imprison 9 innocent people, so that no dishonest man goes free...

but that makes EVERYONE dishonest....  which is why it degrades always to the point of torture and death...   


it ALWAYS does...   its only time...  time till the state takes over the actions of buisness and then forbids competition by force...  (like sweden forcing companies to comply to some arbitrary gender rule... later it will be an arbitrary race rule, and an arbitrary age rule, and an arbitrary obese rule... so companies will now close. )

the state only has power to prevent...  to hobble... to force to stop... its the only force it has... and so it has to hobble one to let another go forward, to which it then hobbles anotehr to make it fair... to which it then hobbles anotehr to meet some goal. 

the point being the state ends up acting like the person trying to balance a table by cutting a bit off, but NEVER using a ruler... 

eventually when there are no legs (procrustean), the table is level... but its also useless as a table. 

same thing.


meanwhile... the productivity of capitalism is in direct opposition to that sicne capitalism CAN promote something wihtout suppressing something else. 

the natural withering of something unused is not the same as a gun to your head telling you you shouldnt use it. 

this is why the state hates this...  capitalism and distributed computing of individuals can do what the state cant....   and in this the state actually falls short of god... since it implies that god already gave us what the state cant give... and to think of the state as provider, is to be provided force...  for nothing else is in the states perview...  the state cant increase productivity without shifting... while as is evident, capitalism results in productivity in which all ships rise... 

false productivity, an illusion of the state...

real productivity, the promise of capitalism...

even socialists loosen up to make progress with capitalism... then think they can stop it and sit pretty.... but it all declined as nothing lasts forever, and newer things need to replace old. 

the planned economy cant juggle the math... it makes astronomical look like 1+1...

but politicians arent savvy this way... we dont pick them for that anymore. 

we gave up our state when we stopped giving to individuals and gave to parties...   americans vote was not in the ballot box... that was an americans tie breaker..... the vote was in the pocket book....   someone did awful... and they got no money, and there was no run off.. 

today...  someone is awful, but the party likes them, and so the monies given to the parties are used to prop up something. sugh giving disconnects the people from the state... 

ergo ipso facto...  we are as close to communist as you can get wihtout eradicating fascism... and free market capitalism is on the otehr side of fascism...  

see it changing for the better any time soon? 

not wihout a war that exposes commnism for wht it is... and reminds us what we will lose.. (unless we are in the elite clique)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes roger&#8230;  but socialists find all that very bad for their worship of constant change&#8230;   they find merit bad, because its a point to oust power&#8230; and the find this stuff bad, because its a merit way to oust power..   </p>
<p>the point is that communism finds such thigns inconvenient&#8230;  since they come from the otehr side of the problem.</p>
<p>americans generally accept that the liberty of one is all important&#8230; so its better that 10 dishonest men go free, rather than one honest one be imprisoned. </p>
<p>communism is the opposite&#8230; which its better to imprison 9 innocent people, so that no dishonest man goes free&#8230;</p>
<p>but that makes EVERYONE dishonest&#8230;.  which is why it degrades always to the point of torture and death&#8230;   </p>
<p>it ALWAYS does&#8230;   its only time&#8230;  time till the state takes over the actions of buisness and then forbids competition by force&#8230;  (like sweden forcing companies to comply to some arbitrary gender rule&#8230; later it will be an arbitrary race rule, and an arbitrary age rule, and an arbitrary obese rule&#8230; so companies will now close. )</p>
<p>the state only has power to prevent&#8230;  to hobble&#8230; to force to stop&#8230; its the only force it has&#8230; and so it has to hobble one to let another go forward, to which it then hobbles anotehr to make it fair&#8230; to which it then hobbles anotehr to meet some goal. </p>
<p>the point being the state ends up acting like the person trying to balance a table by cutting a bit off, but NEVER using a ruler&#8230; </p>
<p>eventually when there are no legs (procrustean), the table is level&#8230; but its also useless as a table. </p>
<p>same thing.</p>
<p>meanwhile&#8230; the productivity of capitalism is in direct opposition to that sicne capitalism CAN promote something wihtout suppressing something else. </p>
<p>the natural withering of something unused is not the same as a gun to your head telling you you shouldnt use it. </p>
<p>this is why the state hates this&#8230;  capitalism and distributed computing of individuals can do what the state cant&#8230;.   and in this the state actually falls short of god&#8230; since it implies that god already gave us what the state cant give&#8230; and to think of the state as provider, is to be provided force&#8230;  for nothing else is in the states perview&#8230;  the state cant increase productivity without shifting&#8230; while as is evident, capitalism results in productivity in which all ships rise&#8230; </p>
<p>false productivity, an illusion of the state&#8230;</p>
<p>real productivity, the promise of capitalism&#8230;</p>
<p>even socialists loosen up to make progress with capitalism&#8230; then think they can stop it and sit pretty&#8230;. but it all declined as nothing lasts forever, and newer things need to replace old. </p>
<p>the planned economy cant juggle the math&#8230; it makes astronomical look like 1+1&#8230;</p>
<p>but politicians arent savvy this way&#8230; we dont pick them for that anymore. </p>
<p>we gave up our state when we stopped giving to individuals and gave to parties&#8230;   americans vote was not in the ballot box&#8230; that was an americans tie breaker&#8230;.. the vote was in the pocket book&#8230;.   someone did awful&#8230; and they got no money, and there was no run off.. </p>
<p>today&#8230;  someone is awful, but the party likes them, and so the monies given to the parties are used to prop up something. sugh giving disconnects the people from the state&#8230; </p>
<p>ergo ipso facto&#8230;  we are as close to communist as you can get wihtout eradicating fascism&#8230; and free market capitalism is on the otehr side of fascism&#8230;  </p>
<p>see it changing for the better any time soon? </p>
<p>not wihout a war that exposes commnism for wht it is&#8230; and reminds us what we will lose.. (unless we are in the elite clique)</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And when a judge denies to any party beforee him the rights set forth in the Constitution, he forfeits his right and authrity to serve as a judge.

They say there is no excuse for domestic violence.  Domestic violence was once the term for violence of the people within a nation against each other or against the government, or that of the government against the people.

As violating the rights set forth in the Constitution is thus domestic violence, then there is no excuse for violating the Constitution.

While the Constitution does not say anything about abortion, it certainly prohibits slavery, involuntary servitude, deprivation of liberty and property without due process of law which is at least a requirement for a finding of wrongdoing on the part of the person to be deprived, bills of attainder, ex post facto laws, and a number of other explicit prohibitions that the judges and legislators honor in the breach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when a judge denies to any party beforee him the rights set forth in the Constitution, he forfeits his right and authrity to serve as a judge.</p>
<p>They say there is no excuse for domestic violence.  Domestic violence was once the term for violence of the people within a nation against each other or against the government, or that of the government against the people.</p>
<p>As violating the rights set forth in the Constitution is thus domestic violence, then there is no excuse for violating the Constitution.</p>
<p>While the Constitution does not say anything about abortion, it certainly prohibits slavery, involuntary servitude, deprivation of liberty and property without due process of law which is at least a requirement for a finding of wrongdoing on the part of the person to be deprived, bills of attainder, ex post facto laws, and a number of other explicit prohibitions that the judges and legislators honor in the breach.</p>
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