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George Orwell: ‘Women Never Condescend to Men Poorer than Themselves’

2008-01-17
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“[Poor men are] condemned to perpetual celibacy. For of course it goes without saying that if a tramp finds no women at his own level, those above–even a very little above–are as far out of his reach as the moon…there is no doubt that women never, or hardly ever, condescend to men who are much poorer than themselves.”–George Orwell

George Orwell is one of my favorite authors, particularly his writings about the Spanish Civil War and the politics of the 1930s and early 1940s. His 1933 book Down and Out in Paris and London is his semi-autobiographical account of living in poverty in both cities.

Orwell’s observations on the issue of gender and homelessness and of the enforced celibacy of poverty-stricken men are interesting. Orwell wrote:

“[Beyond hunger] The second great evil of a tramp’s life–it seems much smaller at first sight, but it is a good second–is that he is entirely cut off from contact with women. This point needs elaborating.

“Tramps are cut off from women, in the first place, because there are  very few women at their level of society. One might imagine that among destitute people the sexes would be as equally balanced as elsewhere. But it is not so; in fact, one can almost say that below a certain level society is entirely male… at the [poverty] level men outnumber women by something like ten to one.

“The cause is presumably that unemployment affects women less than men; also that any presentable woman can, in the last resort, attach herself to some man. The result, for a tramp, is that he is condemned to perpetual celibacy. For of course it goes without saying that if a tramp finds no women at his own level, those above–even a very little above–are as far out of his reach as the moon…but there is no doubt that women never, or hardly ever, condescend to men who are much poorer than themselves.

“A tramp, therefore, is a celibate from the moment when he takes to the road. He is absolutely without hope of getting a wife, a mistress, or any kind of woman except–very rarely, when he can raise a few shillings–a prostitute…

“There is degradation worked in a man who knows that he is not even considered fit for marriage. The sexual impulse, not to put it any higher, is a fundamental impulse, and starvation of it can be almost as demoralizing as physical hunger. The evil of poverty is not so much that it makes a man suffer as that it rots him physically and spiritually. And there can be no doubt that sexual starvation contributes to this rotting process. Cut off from the whole race of women, a tramp feels himself degraded to the rank of a cripple or a lunatic. No humiliation could do more damage to a man’s self-respect.”

Thanks to Callum, a reader, for bringing this to my attention.

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  • my umbrella leaks

    so im not alone, thats nice to know. i found your comments spot on.

    callum, very interesting article. its so very true. think of the man as a rental car…. how often do women downgrade to the cheapest model. but they love upgrades! as a stepping stone i can attest to this point. with time, the degraded man begins to believe he is unfit for another woman. this is what haunts him and ends up driving him mad.

    denis, where are we to go to find a woman? where is this somewhere else nirvana where women are honest, simple, loving creatures, searching for a kind and good man? are you thinking of 3rd world countries denis? i can tell you from my own nitemare women are just the same there. cold, cunning cobras, that will suck the life out of their victim and slowly slither away. men are walking atm machines, a pass to a greencard, real love, surely you jest.

    amfortas, i agree with you. the things i miss the most are the random hugs, the simple touch of a hand in mine. companionship and all that is love. walking alone, i feel an empty shell, never to be whole again. and yet i dont trust a woman’s words. women use empathy at their discretion. much like the usa picks its wars.

    BobH, you are right, that is exactly how the feminist would justify it. do we hold the door open, or arm wrestle for the dinner check. ” a wise man deals with women when only absolutely necessary”, while i certainly agree, i also dont like the idea of spending a life time of days and nights alone. perhaps i should hold out for the robot woman, complete with remote control. whoops, that would be out of my price range, after all my umbrella leaks.

    you may find the link below amusing and typical. i certainly did.

    http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/pit/453035602.html

  • Denis

    BobH-

    excellent commentary. I agree 100%.

  • BobH

    If you ask a feminazi about this, she will say that this is because women are relatively impoverished and oppressed and marrying upward is the only way she can advance economically. This (sturctural powerlessness hypothesis) leads to a testable prediction that women with a higher socioeconomic status (SES) should consider the SES of prospective mates less important than lower SES women.

    When this prediction was tested, it was found that women not only don’t behave as predicted, they behave in precisely the opposite manner. The SES of prospective mates is more important to high SES women than low SES women.

    So we have women essentially telling men that they need to make more money and gain more status. On the other hand, we have women complaining that men make more money than women, complaints which may have materially contributed to men going to college less than women.

    If men wonder why it feels as if they are just being jerked around by women, it’s because their feelings reflect what is really happening. It’s gotten to the point where the wise man deals with women only when absolutely necessary.

  • amfortas

    The two points are made very forcibly. But I would go a little further. It isn’t simply the automatic assumptions we might have about the physicality of such unsought celebacy but the lack even of touch. While sex is certainly a drive, akin – but only just – to appetite and need for food – it is the sensory deprivation that is lost too. The skin is our biggest sense organ and the body needs a warm, humane touch from time to time; moreso than it needs an orgasm.

    The empathetic gender, those women who hold that they are more in touch with the feelings of others, deliberately ignore any vestige of empathy when it comes to their own desire. Their interest in the material benefits of any coupling with a man overpowers any so-called natural propensity to empathise and be compassionate, or even – I hazard, Love itself. I speak of most.

    Now there is a chance I could be wrong. So if anyone thinks I am, SHOW me.

  • Denis

    The reality is that an American woman is not a prize worth getting. Men can find good women elsewhere. Working one’s ass off so as to one day “be worthy” to get an American woman will be an utter disillusioning disappointment to any thinking man. Work hard-get skills that you can use anywhere-and take your time finding a good woman somewhere else. American women can kiss my ass. They undoubtably could not even do that well.

  • wtexas

    Right. There is always some man who would rescue a woman from poverty, spurred on by “damsel in distress” and “knight in shining armor” syndrome.

    Women are under no such mental illnesses. The only time I can think the shoe would be on her foot is perhaps when its a young woman who falls for the bad boy type and supports him/pays the bills. This is usually in conjunction with punishing her parents by dating a man whom they completely dislike.







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