Was Velma Barfield an evil woman masking that evil with piety?

2008-01-31
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I have been accused of seeing things in woman=good and man=bad terms. This criticism is in some respects valid. I have seen tendencies in my writing to see the sexes in these terms.

However, I have often written about evil women. One of those evil women was Velma Barfield, a serial poisoner who was eventually executed. There was a hue and cry over her death sentence and she attracted many powerful supporters including evangelist Billy Graham and his wife Ruth. It seems to me that a similarly situated male murderer would not have gotten the support Velma Barfield did.

It also seems to me that Velma Barfield was a classic hypocrite, manipulating religious faith in pursuit of her foul deeds, and that her supposed jailhouse conversion was just a continuation of that same wicked pattern.

My story on her is at http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/women/velma_barfield/1.html.

At least in this case, did I depict a woman as evil?

What do you think of Velma Barfield? Did she convert in jail? Or was her supposedly newfound faith just the same-old same-old?

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  • Artfldgr

    to a sociopath, the trappings of culture and other things such as religion become weakenesses that can be leveraged to personal advantage. from their perspective, they are more successful than the people they prey on and have contempt for. (unnoticed in recent commentary on commercials with women being contemptuous, they are teaching those who watch and have an affinity, to be sociopathic in their lives).

    Did you depict her as evil? no, not really…

    you told the story as if the points and facts that are obviously untrue are true, and so ameliorate her to some degree in the eyes of the readers.

    part of the reason is that you slip from hearsay to fact as if they are equivalent… maybe its for impact later, but it fails to create the reality for the reader, so the hook that comes later, is never realized.

    Although Stuart was not extremely religious, he knew that his girlfriend was a devoutly pious Christian and she would love hearing the respected evangelist in person.

    you already know the answers to the story, so here you are setting up hearsay as fact. Stuard didnt KNOW, he believed he knew (to what degree cant be determined). Piety her is also hearsay, and what she would love is an assumption.

    all this sets up smoke, and when takin in conjunction with the next sentence, its wrong.

    Stuart was aware that there were contradictory aspects of Velma’s personality.

    what gets built first has precedence over what destroys it. setting her up as pius, makes it harder for you in the next sentence to now contradict that. psychologically the contradiction has to reinforce the prior assertion in order to contradict it. so what happens by doing this in this order, it takes more than one contradiction and work to undo theimage you put up first. you are working against your own point…

    in some who are sensitive to this, but not necessarily verbal, such can appear to be women firsting.

    make em out to be saints first, then your goint to have trouble making them sinners… just as telling the world they are moms (Which brings up positive norman rockwell stuff to mind, not mommy dearest), skews things the same way. are they moms first or murderers first?

    Christians say, it’s a Fallen World and many people do not live up to their own ideals.

    then after you tarnish her a bit, you then wipe off the tarnish with relativism tarnx. your taking your readers down the suckers path WITH taylor, but they will not get the impact of reality he got, they will get a story and that will be combined with their preconceptions. one of those preconcetions still being that she is a pios cristian.

    our abstractions in culture and its lessons can be found in real life. sociopaths are the living version of demons, or devils. their social structure is as we would imagine the layer cake of hell.

    they have ALL the qualities that the DEVIL has… so is it so strange that our worst evil icon that we deal with is actually the best example of the most distructive mental form that wanders through our population.

    of course this is judeo christian. but all religions that focus on dealing with the real world and not transcending it, or ritualizing life in it to avoid evil, have as their life example a devil of some sort. Loki, Oni, Demons, Devils, etc. the more formed ones split them up into finer lines of more evil and less evil.

    and a big question first is what is evil, what do we really want to give the label to? we often dont assign it right, and accept a close as a hit.

    Dante hit the nail on the head as to the most evil acts that man could do to another. his levels of hell denote these qualities… Dante’s hell is not divided up the way we have NOW divided good an evil, as we no longer have this fixed reference in mind anymore.

    here is a fun tour of hell, which is what dantes inferno is (your tour guide is vergil). http://web.eku.edu/flash/inferno/

    by the way, have you noticed that the more the leadership is replaced by sociopathics (the more socialist and change oriented we become), the more the indicators in our culture that would inform us, are getting cut out?

    fairy tales, religious lessons, even the teachings of dead white guys that had a visceral understanding of the qualities that make evil, adn what they do when someone has them.

    each level of Dantes hell, leads to greater and greater cores of evil. but unlike today, evil is in motives, and in actions stemming from them. today these things are hidden in the judgment of outcomes. so a person that kills someone for personal gain is the same as a person who is killing someone to save anothers life…

    in order to accept evil in ones life, one has to rationalize that it isnt what it is. “it’s a Fallen World and many people do not live up to their own ideals”.

    so is such a saying the actual words of a christian, or a relativist? one can read genisis, and see the language dialectic that is being used by satan. again, its the language and such that sociopaths use.

    hells 1st level is limbo… these are full of intelectuials and pagans, and such. people who are misguided by others and ideas, but not evil. many who have read dante have imagined that if they could be at this level it might not be so bad, and the conversations would be most interesting. thats the moth to the flame.

    the next circile is the first of the evils of sociopathy, LUST. by itself its not as bad as a sociopath with all the evil qualities which build on each other, but its the first step in a long line of breaking down virtues, and then falling, as they are the scaffold that we have build our society on.

    and so lust a bad thing pushed farther lead to the next level, gluttony. one is wanting but not having, this is wanting and having to excess… and like one more brick the next layer of the full sociopath and the most evil is put in place.

    hoarders and wasters come next – a glutton who has more than they can devour, then hoards it. gathers things unto themselves. all this is in the abstract, so its not necessarily concrete and such… one can hoard attention, and one can ignore their children. and the reasons is that one lusts for the attention, and then eats it up, then acts to get more (causing great ill, isnt that rigth britany?). and wasters ignore their children as they lust for things that they believe will get them, but they are at this stage, and often they have enough already, and so the waste is not really situational, but gluttony.

    and what happesn to the lustful and gluttonous that are denied? like a wife that wants more and more, but the husband cant deliver? or life cant deliver. or the baby sitter, etc? well then they go to the level of hell for the wrathful… the bitter, the ones that have been denied their entitlements, and so seek to deny others, and hurt others. they become more evil, to acquire the goods of the prior level when they are denied.

    from here on in, we leave the world of the borderline personalities, the narcisists, the vain, and so forth.. and we enter the first part where the people themselves are evil… that they are considered unredeemable… after all, the stuff above, can be worked on… it can be just bad ways and habits of dealing with the world.

    but there is a point where these are not habits, bad choices, and so forth, but that they are an aware choice and that the direction is favored, and there is no fixing it as its fundemental to how they see and deal with the world.

    and the first inkling of the depth of the evil of Velma.

    the 6th level is for heretics. and we can say that velma had this part of her. NOTE that dante didnt consider thinkers and pagans and such as heretics. what is missing is knowlege and forthought… INTENTION… if one does not belong someplace, and one pretends to appear to belong, then one is living a falshood for more gain.

    so you can see that one leads to another that leads to another. heretics are those that profess to believe an ideology, or religion, and then do what they think is right, while hiding behind it. so while the average woman following feminists would end up with the pagans and such, the leaders of the feminsits would end up here and much deeper…(which i am getting to)

    the feminsts are heretcial… they profess a doctrine of oen thing, but their actions and such tell you that they have another agenda… so they are lustful, gluttonous, wrathful, etc.

    want to know what also lives at this level with them? Furies… hell hath no fury like a woman scorned… it also has medusa… now how many men describe the lesser of the feminist arcana as furies, harriden, scorned and such?

    as bad as these heretics are, they get worse.. and so the next level down, is for the violent. and these are the lustful and gluttonous, and wrathful, and heretical… who decide that the only way to now get what they want is some violent act… they can be violent to other people, they can be violent to god… they are not violent to themselves ().

    they espouse as a solution violence. violence against god, violence against neighbors, violence agasint those that deny what their lust and gluttony must have. (power). so the lustful woman that has stuiff, but its not enough, and who is denied more power to get more f what they want, may pretend to be someone else… which is why someone may be surprised when their little christian person is a monster behind closed doors.

    violence is an overt evil.. and dante made is less than other things becasue others should be able to see it easier. dante didnt imagine a world, where the levels of his hell would stop at this point and we would forget whats worse. in his world, people were closer to their reality

    so when a person that has progressed down each level gets to this point, where violence wont work (say their husband is too big or takes it and yet doesnt give in – or they are more evil and just skip violence for more productive fare), they then enter the next level, and thats for the fraudulent.

    thisnext level is where most of those we USED to think of as evil, reside. but its still not the most evil. on this level are the falsifiers (those that will confirm the heretics knowinly), panderers, seducers, hypocrites, decievers, sowers of discord, grafters, and grifters.

    by the way, i forgot to mention that each level of hell can be broken down in scales too… so level 8, has ten levels in itself and these types occupy it from outer less evil to inner more evil.

    if you look here, these are the people that trick us. they are the ones that are closest to the bad of the devil but still not quite there. there is another level, that is worse…

    but each of these levels build on us. and if one is a sociopath, one may progress through these levels in early childhood… and so by the time they are adults, they are well polished and the worst.

    tie this to the ideologists like feminists, and communists, and such… and you have seen that their lust, and gluttony for power has trying to achive it in more and more negative ways outside of merit. the more we lose the teachings of the past, the more we become blind to this. and the easier it becomes for them to construct the hell that THEY feel comfortable in.

    and what do they then turn to if this doesnt work? treachery… the next level is for the treacherous.

    and in this level you can place Velma… for again, treachery has all that came before it, and a bit more…

    so first, level in the 9th level, is for those that betray their kin… isnt it fitting that the fraudulent and the heretics, are tricking mothers to betray their own? this is where those who believe a bit to zealotly start calling them all devils and we write them off… but they are relating waht they know, and the igorant think they see people in little red suits with pitchforks. then they go ritght out, open their check book, and give to the heretics and frauds that are betraying.

    this level is denoted by destroying trust… that in order to get this close and do this, one has to be intimate with ones prey… one has to totally misrepresent themselves, and continually do so, while in the background grinding them up for personal gain and pleasure…

    it has all the components of the prior, but now they no longer prey on random victims, they get close and trusted positions and they betray that trust. (does that sound like a bunch of women at the top of this crud?)

    misery loves company, and devils want to make more devils out of angels. its about power, and such… so the greater devils who betray their country, convince the generally good, to betray their families…

    the children from that, will be predisposed to more easily be convinced down this path, and so hell on earth is being made while promising heaven.

    the road is paved with good intentions, and so everyone has their head down looking at the cobblestones… but they are walking the wrong way… a cobble stone of good intent does not tell them which direction leads to more or leads away from less.

    and when the most evil congregate… then what is even more evil? when they turn on their masters, and each other… and the whole system becomes the center of hell…

    so, with that lesson… is velma evil… YES… very much so..

    and did you let us know the depth of her evil? no…

    you let us know the result of the outcome of the practice of evil to this depth, but that is not evil in itself. anymore than a knife itself is evil.

    Once your at the part of the story where the poison is hitting him, you can tell that she has passed all these other forms, incorporated them, and then taken the final step into the last level, and then betrayed the trust of everyone around them to torture someone slowly and be present as they writhe in pain.

    she lusted for power… so she killed… and stole…

    she was gluttonous, as part of what they had was not enough, she wanted not only what they had, but their life too.
    she was wrathful…. a heritic to make her disguise..
    she fraudulently presented herself as a mate… and got closer.

    and in the final look, she used all those prior steps to be able to act in a way where she was present a part of it, gained sympathy intended for the victim, and more.

    the level of treachery and betrayal is incredible… she was fraudulent to everyone around her.

    being a sociopath this was the kind of trickery that would jsutify her actions and contemtp and leave her ecstatic inside on the level of orgasm for average people. (so imagine the level of joy such people feel when they are in our state as leaders and have tricked and hurt 300 millin people and they ask to be hurt more!)

    the story isnt about evil.. the story is too long for that… and the story has too many details… and the fact that we dont know what is eveil and what evils are worse than others doestn help.

    another interesting part is that they wanted a confession. the fact that sociopaths are so clever and such, often makes them talkers and braggers. they lust for more power, and there is power in the story… this is how two female serial killers in europe were caught. their reason for killing was becasue the elderly patients buzzed them for help too much. they held them down and poured a bit of water down the womens throats, and let them slowly soffocate. they were caught becasue someone overheard them bragging to another group of nurses.

    one would think that such a confession would be impossible… but no, becasue doing so is part of the personality that caused them to commit the acts in the first place.

    you can see the depth of the manipulation and such in the whole story, and most will not realize the level of complexity and predatory psychology that she is using to juggle all these people. she is caught only because she went just a littel too far… not so far, and we wouldnt be talking about her.

    today, many sociopaths do their thing, but becasue we now accept JUSTIFICATION for evil as a valid excuse for behavior, they have a free reign like never before in history. (the only bigger area like this was the creatino of the soviet union by lenin and derzinsky with the help of the worst of the criminally insane from the prisons).

    at the time of Velmas actions, we had not been tricked yet. so velma didnt have much to save her once they were no longer so sure of her shine.

    today, velma can pull out a huge number of excuses and justifications, and a huge organisation of heretical people, from charities, to judges, will help save their fellow sociopathic sister..

    before there would not be such people to help the environmental conditions, and so many more women were seen for the evil they have bene doing.

    remember it was words and trickery to cahnge the mind that gets us on the path… so inventing justification to murder your husband while asleep would do what for people like velma?

    and if the people doing this are not true to what they say, then this is nothign but the darker side of humanity helping the rest of the darker side wrest control from the more prevalent more dominating lighter side.

    in fact, you can tick off the changed and examine each of the things in light of the question “does it help sociopaths at the expense of their victims”, and you will get a BIG BIG surprise.

    [then when you study the history, and that they are for communism, and such, and knwo that tahts is the political system where sociopaths are rulers, and the just are their means of production, entertainment, and resource... well, doesnt it all come together?]

    hope i helped.

  • conservativation

    Women good man bad is the undercurrent of our culture. From the presumption of DV to divorce instigating behaviors MUST be male, its a no win.
    A proffesor in seminary did a very interesting excercise. He would go to one group and ask the men and women to write a list of the 5 or 10 WORST sins…in order. Of course we’d have murder, rape, adultry, robbery, abuse, what ever….a non gender specific list of sins.

    The next group he’d ask the men and women to write the top 5 sins men were prone to and the top 5 sins women were prone to.

    The result was not surprising in one way. The man prone sins aligned almost EXACTLY with the WORST sins.

    But even worse and more telling (and hilarious to me) the TOP SIN the women wrote down under sins women were prone to??????

    Here it is

    Wait for it

    LOW SELF ESTEEM!!!!!






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