DV Conference Report #4: Feminist DV Expert Evan Stark Defends Excluding 12-Year-Old Boys in Abusive Families from Joining Their Mothers in Shelters

2008-02-19
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Background: I’ve been detailing the historic, one-of-a-kind conference “From Ideology to Inclusion: Evidence-Based Policy and Intervention in Domestic Violence” (held in Sacramento, California February 15-16)–to learn more, click here.

In my recent blog post DV Conference Report #3: 12-Year-Old Boys in Abusive Families Aren’t Allowed to Go to Shelters with Their Mothers, but Instead Go to Foster Care, I discussed domestic violence shelters’ policies of excluding all males ages 12 or older from going to the shelters with their mothers. I wrote:

“One morning during the conference, I had breakfast with two remarkable ladies, Erin Pizzey and Patricia Overberg. Pizzey founded the first battered women’s shelter in the world in 1971, and Overberg was the first battered women’s shelter director in California to admit male victims of domestic violence to a shelter.  As bad as things are, both of them told me things which were amazing and horrifying. Pizzey told the following story:

“A woman was being abused by her violent husband and sought shelter.  She had three children, two young ones and a 12-year-old boy.  She wanted to go to a battered women’s shelter and, of course, take her children with her.  However, the feminists who run the battered women’s shelters in England have a policy that no boys aged 12 or older are allowed into the shelters. 

“The woman was presented with the equivalent of Sophie’s Choice.  Either she could return to her violent husband, and risk both herself and her children, or she could submit to the feminist policy.  She chose the latter.  Rather than allow the boy to stay with his mother and his siblings in the battered women’s shelter, the boy instead had to wait in the police station, while his mother and siblings went off to the shelter.  The English equivalent of child protective services was called, and the boy was picked up and placed in foster care!

“Overberg told me the same thing happens in California and in much of the United States.”

Evan Stark (pictured) is a prominent feminist advocate for domestic violence victims and the author of Coercive Control: How Men Entrap Women in Personal Life (Interpersonal Violence) and numerous other DV books. I discussed his work in my recent blog post Prominent Hard-line Feminist Shows Some Class, Apologizes for Calling Me a ‘Notorious Right Wing Nut Case’.

Stark is an influential member of the domestic violence establishment which researchers at the conference often criticized, and was also an opponent of our successful Campaign Against PBS’s Father-Bashing Breaking the Silence in 2005

This morning, Stark posted a comment on my blog defending the policy excluding males ages 12 or older from joining their mothers in battered women’s shelters. I deleted Stark’s comment so I could devote a full blog post to it here. I disagree with Stark’s view (and the second sentence in the first paragraph below in particular), but I’m pleased that he is interested in a dialogue of sorts. Stark writes:

“The issue Pizzey raises, of young men not being able to come to shelter with their moms, has been a serious problem since the beginning of the shelter movement. The reason for this policy, which you don’t mention, is that many shelters take younger women, including girls in their teens, and the boys in families are often older than some of the females in the facility and there are no provisions to monitor their behavior– violent or sexual.

“At Chiswick, Pizzey didn’t admit boys to the shelter, either, but housed them in a separate building. She could do this because she had a large grant from a private company to buy the houses. But most shelters in England, as here, run on a shoestring budget and, in England, were located in Housing Estates (equivalent to our housing projects) and had no separate space for male children.

“Today, many shelters in England use free-standing apartments rather than houses and have no restrictions on male youth coming with their mothers. You are shocked that some of these boys have to go to foster care. But, as you rightly point out, this is often preferable (and is temporary) to staying in a home where all families members are exposed to the man’s violence.”

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  • http://www.false-accusers.com TheManOnTheStreet

    “….and the boys in families are often older than some of the females in the facility and there are no provisions to monitor their behavior– violent or sexual.”

    In otherwords, they are violent rapist just waiting for an oportunity….

    “Today, many shelters in England use free-standing apartments rather than houses and have no restrictions on male youth coming with their mothers.”

    I call bullsh$t. Anyone with half a brain KNOWs this to be false….

    What an ass.

    TMOTS

  • amfortas

    Then of course the women in the shelters themselves are a worry. Most seem to hate males, unless of course they fancy them. (It’s case by case you know!). Then any young boy entering puberty is fair game. Just imagine that paragon of feminist wonder, Germaine Greer on a shelter’s staff, doing some ‘research’. There are battalions of Greer Wannabees leeching off the system and no doubt doing a fair amount of letching on the side.

    The boy child is given to a foster home instead of to the father. Why? Well the father is violent – the mother says so. (Better be ‘safe’, ‘just in case’!). And what did Erin Pizzy have to say about that at the conference I wonder. If it was anything like what she has written previously, then that excuse is thrown out the window.

    Women lie. The ‘shelter’ may be of service to a genuinely battered woman, but so many of her sistas lie through their teeth in order gain support in stealing the family assets that all are to be disbelieved in the first instance until there is examined and confirmed corroborating evidence. The shelter harpies are unlikely to wait for that or even look for it.

    The moment anyone seriously investigates the women who run to the shelters for ‘help’ and catalogues their claims and lies, the flow of ‘victims ‘would dry up overnight. And the women who run the shelters? Investigating their involvement in false accusations would open a lot of eyes too, Funds would disappear amid a welter of corruption articles in the media.

    Who guards the guards?






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