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Istanbul: Sex Trafficking Hub Where Sex Slaves Are Locked Up? Not Exactly

2008-02-27
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A quick Google search will show you miles of recent feminist shock articles on “sex trafficking”. The more credible of these articles will note, correctly, that it is easier for young women from the former Soviet Union to work in Turkey than in the European Union…in fact there are barely any women from the former Soviet Union working in the “sex trade” on continental Europe outside the small strip of European land occupied by Turkey and Istanbul west of the Dardenelles.

But here is the catch: the young “slaves” are not really available for sex, but are bait for tourists to enter the establishments. The bartenders rush to put a drink and a bar tab before these tourists. The bar tabs are for $400.

The bartenders then all become physically violent bouncers demanding payment of the bill. Smart tourists know to fight back and yell about needing to bring in the police while simultaneously offering no more than $30 or whatever for the unpleasantness to end.

But the bottom line is that these so-called “sex traffickers” clearly hate and mistreat their potential customers. The women are apparently used as decoys and probably make as much money helping to violently rob strangers as they would if they were actually being asked to have sex with strangers.

So we are not exactly talking about a “patriarchal society exploiting women” here. We are talking about vicious traps set by males to sucker punch fellow males…one of the more anti-male phenomena you will find anywhere.

Of course, the “sex trafficking literature” that keeps dozens of Washington hacks employed, won’t tell you about this.

On Amazon.com, a male American who says he is a an ex-officer in the US military, comments on a sex trafficking “expose” book by saying “I want to start seeing American johns shot and stabbed around the world”.

The Roy den Hollander challenge against VAWA basically claims that, via VAWA, the US Department of Homeland Security is aiding and abetting the sex traffickers who want to bring Russian women to the US by duping an innocent, unsuspecting American man to marry them.

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  • Jim Peterson

    Turkish men are violently robbed if they walk into the wrong bars around Taksim Square as well. The difference is that they know all about that particular danger.

    What is going on in Istanbul, generally, is that because the Russian and Ukrainian women are free to come and go as they please and they all have cell phones and want to give western men their phone numbers, the “pimps” and barowners feel their only way of making a profit is to try to scam at least $150-$400 off tourists before they go off alone with the women.

    Basically, if a western man choses a woman he wants to spend a lot of time with, and the woman decides that she likes him, then the middle-man is cut out from then onwards…which is why the Turkish middle-men want so badly to rip off the tourists before the woman starts talking to the man.

    Online dating sites are like this as well. They know that every time they give out a woman’s personal contact information, a relationship could start that would cause her to cancel her membership or participation on the dating site. This is why the siteowners are not fighting IMBRA.

  • PolishKnight

    This may surprise you to hear, but there might be plenty of business apart from western tourists. The local men may enjoy sex too!

  • Jim Peterson

    Bottom Line: You cannot have a real “sex trafficking business” if it is clear that your main business is robbing your potential customers by getting violent with them once they have crossed the threshold of your establishment. Since this is the modus operandi of the sex business in Istanbul, then it follows that there is no serious sex trafficking business outside of the media hype.

  • Jim Peterson

    My point here is that it is the western men who are the victims as far as I can see. The women are not having sex with anyone. Heck, in the “honest” cabarets on the main thoroughfares of Istanbul, the western men are supposed to pay $35 to have a drink with a Russian woman for 15 minutes. Since I speak Russian, I was able to get in 30 second conversations with a few of them for free and these women told me that there is no slave trade and few women with intelligence have to have sex with men because Muslims and tourists are silly enough to pay $140 per hour just to speak with them over champagne.

    Marc Rudov is correct when he says that most men are willing to shell out far too much money for far too little in return.

    But getting back to the vicious practice of luring guys into the bars off the main thoroughfares and then shaking them down violently, the women are the bait and the poor male victims are not being lured necessarily with tales of beautiful Russian “prostitutes”, but rather with “If you want to see beautiful Russian belly dancers, they are in that bar over there” or “Come see Arabic belly dancers”. The “tourist hunters” are western looking guys…who must be filled with an awful lot of hate. It is amazing that the various western consulates have not managed to stop this “overcharge surprise” routine because it makes Turkey look very, very bad.

    But I bet that, when I call the US Consulate about this tomorrow, I will get a snarky feminist who will basically say “serves men right for being out at night”.

    Of course, the feminists in the US Consulate would consider it poetic justice that the “sex traffickers” have no intention of selling women because shaking men down simply for crossing the threshold of their bars is apparently more lucrative.

    I have heard that enough western men fork over the $400 rather than fight their way out…thus making the shakedown system profitable.

  • PolishKnight

    My wife and I saw a cable channel documentary of this subject. I think this is it:

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/slaves/talk/

    It was about an Eastern European woman who claimed to be lured to Turkey to make money legitimately and was enslaved and trapped. Her husband tried to find her and ultimately pressured the contact he made to put her on a plane.

    The documentary, among other things, claimed that women who had escaped the makeshift brothels and went to the police often wound up being returned to the brothel and the corrupt police given a reward for doing so.

    It occurred to me at the time that the Turkish police must be INCREDIBLY corrupt for it to be a common practice to assist in the enslavement of foreign women. In order for the police to know where to return the women for a reward, they’d have to be in cahoots, at a departmental level, with ALL the brothels in the area! (Sheesh, if only they could return lost cats that efficiently.)

    This is entirely possible considering that Turkey is a Muslim country and treats infidels as second class citizens.

    On the other hand, it’s possible that the whole thing was an elaborate sham or a combination of a legitimate plight by the woman with exaggerations and unsupported anecdotes that the reporters glommed onto as fact.







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