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Feminist Is Outraged That Men Like Sexy, Scantily-Clad Women

2008-02-28
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“I dressed up in a sexy outfit…I became subject to leers, stares…tell me that there aren’t men out there, especially in locations frequented by college students, who act like predators.”

I avoid judging bloggers by their commenters because I think it can be very unfair and misleading. Below is a comment from Kimmy, a blog poster at www.Feministing.com. I cite it not as a negative comment about www.Feministing.com or Jessica Valenti, but instead as reflective of (some) feminist thinking.

Kimmy seems surprised that college-age men are attracted to sexy, scantily-clad women. In case anybody needed an example, I’ve generously provided one to the right. While discussing the issue of rape on college campuses, Kimmy writes:

“My boyfriend, although a fairly enlightened male, didn’t understand the worry that women often have when in public. So we did an experiment.

“I dressed up in a sexy outfit (just to exaggerate the results a bit), and we went out. At the restaurant, he stayed by my side at every moment, and there was no highly noticeable attention from the male populace there. Then we went to a fairly innocent location – a bookstore. About half the time I stayed with him, the other half I moved about on my own, but within his line of sight. Anytime I got more than three yards away from him, I became subject to leers, stares, and a couple of guys showing up on a row of books right after me a couple too many times. If I moved back next to my boyfriend, or if he came up to me and touched me, the looks and following stopped.

“Now, I would suggest a similar experiment for anyone who decries the rape crisis. Go out in public, to a party locale. Appear drunk, lightly tipsy, or even just as if you are in a really good, open-hearted sort of mood. Remain within sight and easy reach of help (friends you’ve brought with you) at all times, but do not make that connection obvious. See how the men around you act. See how that is different from what you generally experience in public.

“And then you can turn around and tell me that there aren’t men out there, especially in locations frequented by college students, who act like predators. An actual experiment of this nature into how date rape goes down would be too dangerous, but this should give a clue to all those reluctant to believe that it’s an issue.”

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  • steven deluca

    Marie Claire magazine has an article about Russian women taking courses for three months to be so sexy that they can control men and marry millionaires.

    They are told to try to look past his wallet because it would help if they liked other things about him to so that they are not prisoners in a gilded cage.

    They – the Russion women – said they tried equality (I was in the USSR when it still was the USSR and saw women worked as hard and who ended up as used-up as men) and that now, with more wealthy men in Russia, it’s easier to learn to be sexy to marry a millionaire, more so than working your butt off to be a millionaire. They are taught how to be good with oral sex practicing on suckers. Sensual massage was practiced with a real man . The learn exercises with some device in their vagina connected to tubes to measure pressure … so that they can control their vaginas to be able to squirt water while in the bath tub.

    Now, some will say, this topic is to raunchy to share on MND but Marie Claire is a mainstream magazine for women. To see several women sticking their asses out, or sucking on suckers, must be of interest to American women or Marie Claire March 08 wouldn’t have given in to so many pages and photos.

    Yes, men like sexy looking scantily dressed women “MOTHER NATURE” made them that way and it’s not a bad thing. Mother nature also made women – some at least, to use sex to get what they want. Smoking too much crack made a woman want to dress real sexy to see how men reacted as if what, she didn’t know?

    That woman wanted to wear sexy clothing to feel power and to be wanted but then to also turn around and put men’s faces in the dirt. What the men saw was a trampy dressed women who wanted to provoke a sexual response. The followed. If she doesn’t like it then dress like a woman with common sense whose goal isn’t to get men sexually excited just so she could pove her theory … playing stupid games.

    The Russian women were also learning to control male minds too by pretending to be really enthusiatic – in bed and out – to fool men… but it took the Vagina exercises added to those others skills to make sure that he doesn’t want to leave you because for men realationships are 90 percent sexual according to the article. If that’s true, why would men marry when they could just rent a vagina for an hour and be done with it.

    Is this entertaining, amusing, for American women, or what?

    Joke of the day. A man wins the lottery, comes in all happy and says “Pack your bags honey” and she says “For snow, a beach, for what” “I don’t care for what, just pack and get the hell out”

    Later

    SD

  • amfortas

    Look, children, Kimmy goes to College. There are lots of children in College. Would you like to go to College?

    Kimmy sees an Experiment. How do we spell ‘Experiment’, boys and girls? You try it.

    Should Kimmy do one herself? Would you like to do an Experiment? I think Kimmy would. It looks like fun to do an ‘Experiment’.

    But first Kimmy has to do her joined up writing. Can you do joined up writing? Its fun to do joined up writing. Let’s do some now. Let’s go with Kimmy to her Joined up Writing w/ Crayons 101 class. Her boyfriend is waiting there.

    Have you got your crayons? Here are some crayons. Have you got a boyfriend? Lift up your dresses and show your knickers and you can have a boyfriend too.

  • fourthwire

    Well, Kimmy…. you’ve got a bit of a problem here.

    You “discovered”, using that scintillating IQ of yours, plus a bit of observational skills that if you dress provocatively in a public place, MEN LOOK at you!

    Here’s a newsflash for you: if I were to drive to an EXPENSIVE entertainment establishment in an expensive , dressed to the nines, with obvious signs of a substantial income….. WOMEN would look at me.

    Women tend to find men as wealthy as their looks can manage to attract.

    Men tend to find women as attractive as their wallets can manage to attract.

    For every idiotic feminazi like yourself who dresses provocatively, then objects to men “leering” at them, there are dozens of women who dress provocatively because they WANT men to look at them.

    Don’t like that? Tough luck, Kimmy, old girl. If you don’t like men looking at you when you dress provocatively, you ought to find yourself a nice desert island somewhere and take your feminazi pals with you……..

  • jackal1994

    And they’re all just as conditioned as a guard dog is. If any of them ever had an independent thought, it wouldn’t be a miracle it would be an act of god!

  • jackal1994

    It’s not even their looks (so much to me), it’s their demeanor. They go absolutely nuts when you challenge their man-hating rhetoric. I mean they go rabid, foaming at the mouth, swearing, profanity, nasty insulting NUTS!

    They’re miserable horrible shrews, that are obviously mad at life.

    It reminds me of something Christina Hoff-Sommers wrote. She said that radical feminism is like a cult. But, instead of sinning and repenting, the anointed look for sins AGAINST themselves by the un-anointed.

    Seen in this way you can see how they’re rage just builds and builds, until they can unleash it against the “approved” targets in online forums–or probably in real-life. I picture these nut-jobs shouting at men in restaurants who would dare order for their date.

    It reminds me of the footage on youtube of angry feminists storming into a conference on abused and battered husbands, and shouting profanities, challenges, put-downs, insults. Can you ever EVER imagine in 1 billion years men being so uncouth, and cruel to storm into a conference on abused women and shouting profanities, put-downs, challenges, and nasty insults?
    Why do we except such shoddy behavior from feminists.

    I think it’s interesting how totally unacceptable, uncivil child-like behavior has somehow come to be accepted from radical feminists. Somehow I think feminists themselves want things this way.

    Because when feminists can NO LONGER throw ad hominem attacks (of mysigony, bigotry, etc…) against their critics and have to actual debate IDEAS they lose (because their position is so weak).

    I think a lot of feminists actually know that their “utopia” they’re fighting for is actually a fascist state that doesn’t allow free will, but would (if given the power) force THEIR PERSPECTIVE upon citizens.

    You can see this when feminists talk about “authentic feelings” when discussing women who are A) happy to be home-makers B) love men very much C) read romance novels and D) deeply appreciate men for all their noble sacrifices (like all the fireMEN who sacrificed themselves on 9/11) and E) aren’t willing to have lesbian sex.

    Feminists keep saying that these women aren’t having “authentic feelings” that they’re being coached by society into these beliefs.
    I think even Kimmy would agree that feminists can come on this site and post their comments with out all of the insane garbage men get on feministing: like Caps(yelling), and stating that “you MRA’s make me physically ill, I feel like puking–you’re all a bunch of wife-beaters”.

    Arguing with them is like arguing with a barking dog.

  • wadestar

    I think we all might be wasting just a little bit too much time discussing an obviously false story. I mean, I’ve seen some of those ‘feministing’, um… women… and I think the only thing that would make them more attractive would be more clothes, not less… especially it would hide the face. I’m mean… talk about putting lipstick on a pig…

  • El Cid

    I’m shocked, shocked to discover men like looking at scantily clad women.

    Perhaps the researcher should send her results to the following:

    Britney Spears
    Paris Hilton
    Jennifer Lopez
    Pamela Anderson
    Everybody in Hollywood
    Cosmopolitan
    Playboy
    Hustler
    Sigmund Freud
    Herbert Marcuse

    I’m sure they’ll all be shocked as well.

    (The interesting one in this list is Cosmo, which has apparently discovered women like to look at scantily clad women as well, at least based on their covers, which feature a new scantily clad bosom each month.)

    The only thing interesting about this “research” is the mindset behind it–male sexuality is evil, female sexuality is innocent, pure, and just plain good.

  • jackal1994

    A)
    Dressing in a skimpy manner isn’t just “juicing” the numbers, it’s skewing the numbers badly. Women (in America at least) are totally safe in their bodies/persons/property almost everywhere.

    And the few places they AREN’T safe, many men wouldn’t be safe either! This is pretty standard practice for feminists “researchers” to put a FIX in their methodology to get the result they want. They start with what they MUST prove and arrive at that point by WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY.

    B) Notice how the men’s reactions are cast in as NEGATIVE a light as possible. Stares become leers, approaches become predations, her lover becomes a protector.
    The men in this “test” CAN’T be staring because her skimpy clothes in a book-store signals AVAILABILITY and INTEREST (from her) in being approached.

    Also, book-stores are yuppy pickup places.

    Maybe having her lover by her side wasn’t a sign of protection from rape, as much it was a sign that she’s ATTACHED, and there is no point in approaching?

    Starving men will approach when offered food too. I think that the “approach” automatically = predation concept is hugely flawed.

    C) Men like women’s bodies! That’s not any secret! Women benefit from this in so many many ways that it’s pretty hilarious that she’s complaining about leers and stares.

    Especially since any woman simply has to dress in a remotely modest fashion to prevent the stares. Once again women have all the choice, men bear the consequences of her decision.

    The men are bad for leering and pay the (moral) price of her making a decision to brandish her body like a side of meat.

    The missing piece of the puzzle in this equation is modesty.

  • Ouderkirk

    I am a little puzzled here Kimmy.

    You put on clothes that are designed to draw attention to yourself and then complain that those clothes in fact worked.

    I would think that if you put on said clothes, and they did not work then you might have something to complain about to the designer or you for choosing the wrong color or fit.

    Isn’t the point of sexy, tight fitting clothes to draw attention?

  • snootfish

    I engaged in some “leering” yesterday.

    There was w woman I found extremely attractive in a public place. I looked at her. I made eye contact with her. She smiled at me. She also adjusted the way she was sitting so that her very nice breats stuck out even further.

    Later, as I was leaving, she made a point to walk right by me. She was shorter than I. I looked down at her and her assets were mostly visible, and it was a very nice sight indeed. She smiled at me again.

    She was way too young for me and probably inappropriate for me in several additional ways. Nothing more came or will come from the this incident, but I enjoyed it and frankly I think she did also.

    Am I bad? No. I am a man. Am I a potential rapist? No. I am a man.

    As for those who would suggest that I am either bad or a potential rapist, because I enjoyed this interaction with this woman. I say fxxx yxx!!!!

  • redrajesh

    “Innocent location of a bookstore” – the moment she went in there with her slutty clothes, the location definitely lost its innoncence. She should have dressed in an innocent manner if the place had to continue to be innocent.

    Besides, she is ignoring the fact that women leer at men who are provocatively dressed and the fact that men also get raped at parties. And male victims of rape are awarded the job of making child support payments to their tormentors. And of course, she is also ignoring the fact that the women would have also looked at her in a leering, disapproving manner. In this case, she is the predator for deliberately dressing in a provocative manner.

  • panic

    If the “experiment” be true, what do we learn from this?

    Do women learn that “if you do not wish to sell the product, turn off that big neon sign?”

    Evidently not.
    Why?
    Because the neon sign is how they enjoy a standard of living beyond what they can produce.
    If it were turned off, they would be judged by merit – and from that frightening prospect they flee in terror: “better rape than work!”.

  • http://www.false-accusers.com TheManOnTheStreet

    Dear Kimmy,

    May I ask, and how did you know that they were leering at you unless you were looking (yes, only men leer) at them? You would have to leer (as in stare for a lengthy amount of time) at them to “catch” them learing at you.. right?

    So, who is the predator here…. Seems to me YOU are the predator, you were looking for some poor unsuspecting sap to pounce on for leering at you…. You know, to prove your “point’.. whatever that may be…

    Maybe you should view that video on youtube where a waiter puts a huge schlong in his tight pants and then proceeds to serve. Take a look at the way women are gnawing at the bit over it… take a look at how these women don’t even try to hide their…er…. leering….

    Clue-by-4 mizzzzz all men are rapists…. men look at women and women look at men. If you put your “assets” out there, the opposite sex is gonna freaking look! ADUH!

    What a freaking joke…

    TMOTS

  • Big shooter

    Lets see here, a young attractive woman dresses provocatively, get a few glances at the book store- BINGO!!! there’s a rape epidemic.

  • http://www.shatterdmen.com/ shatteredmen

    Newsflash, Women like wealthy, strong and handsome men. There is no surprise to that.

    It is well known that men are “turned on” by sexy, scantily-clad women and I contend that feminist use this to full advantage. Case in point…remember the Central Park (NYC) incident several years ago in which several teen age boys were arrested for assulting a women? Well, at that time, I was in contact with someone that saw the whole incidient. What was NOT made public is that the woman flashed her breast to these teen age boys before anything else happened.

    Most people are honest but I assure you that if you walk around a crowed area with a $100 bill sticking out of your pocket, you will not have that bill for long.

  • roger

    oh boo hoo. countless articles have been written about the LACK of there being an actual “rape crisis” on campuses across the USA and we get THIS type of response. It was a lie in 1978 and it is a lie today, 30 years later. That this woman FEELS this way is one thing. But to suggest that 2,500 woman out of a campus of 20,000 students are going to be raped, each and every year, every year. Is pure fantasy. THIS woman’s fantasy. It has never happened, and it NEVER WILL happen. Of the several campuses I have attended classes at the rape hysteria myth was always present and the lack of evidence was also always present. On a campus of 20,000 students the incidence of rape was way, way less than 1% per year. Nowhere near the 25% claim made famous in the 70s and exploited still today.







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