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	<title>Comments on: Domestic Violence Prevention &#8211; More Hyperbole Than Truth:Part 3</title>
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		<title>By: karab</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/79100/comment-page-1/#comment-60439</link>
		<dc:creator>karab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Ray -- here is what I was taught.  And happen to believe. People are infinitely valuable and created in God&#039;s image and they should not be abusive to each other.   That is not what God wants for us.  And that people CAN learn to get healthy and not hurt one another.

So -- that is what I learned in &quot;therapy school&quot; (by the way, a therapist is not the same as a psychiatrist and I have a degree in psychology). 

Just wanted to clarify that for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Ray &#8212; here is what I was taught.  And happen to believe. People are infinitely valuable and created in God&#8217;s image and they should not be abusive to each other.   That is not what God wants for us.  And that people CAN learn to get healthy and not hurt one another.</p>
<p>So &#8212; that is what I learned in &#8220;therapy school&#8221; (by the way, a therapist is not the same as a psychiatrist and I have a degree in psychology). </p>
<p>Just wanted to clarify that for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Blumhorst</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/79100/comment-page-1/#comment-60398</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Blumhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;I am all for therapy (heck, I am a no longer practicing therapist) but at the end of the day people need to start by stopping. THEN they can look at the why.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Maybe Psychiatry should start teaching its therapists that the home, the nest, is a woman&#039;s territory (where they wield power and control and have many privileges) as contrasted to Patriarchal society, where only the dominate males yield power and control (to the benefit and privilege of only a few males).  The average man is a slave in both worlds and often abused in both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;I am all for therapy (heck, I am a no longer practicing therapist) but at the end of the day people need to start by stopping. THEN they can look at the why.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Maybe Psychiatry should start teaching its therapists that the home, the nest, is a woman&#8217;s territory (where they wield power and control and have many privileges) as contrasted to Patriarchal society, where only the dominate males yield power and control (to the benefit and privilege of only a few males).  The average man is a slave in both worlds and often abused in both.</p>
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		<title>By: karab</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/79100/comment-page-1/#comment-60361</link>
		<dc:creator>karab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this all to be really interesting, but at the end of the day, as you note, people (men and women, women and men) have to take responsibility for their behaviors.  If you want love and your neurobiology is screwed up, terrorizing your family is not the way to get it.  I find it fascinating that people who do this are often perfectly capable of following the &quot;rules of society&quot; in every other kind of relationship except the kind that should matter most -- at home where people should feel safe and secure.  While it is great for people to figure out WHY they do what they do, committing battery is against the law and that is the first issue. We are not allowed to randomly punch strangers on the street -- and we can&#039;t do it at home.

So - we stop that while we are learning about our wounded selves rather than giving ourselves &quot;permission&quot; to continue in what will never get us what we want. 

I am always shocked at the vitriole from men who never seem to believe women can be victims and women who can never seem to believe men can be victims.

I am all for therapy (heck, I am a no longer practicing therapist) but at the end of the day people need to start by stopping.  THEN they can look at the why. 

But that is just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this all to be really interesting, but at the end of the day, as you note, people (men and women, women and men) have to take responsibility for their behaviors.  If you want love and your neurobiology is screwed up, terrorizing your family is not the way to get it.  I find it fascinating that people who do this are often perfectly capable of following the &#8220;rules of society&#8221; in every other kind of relationship except the kind that should matter most &#8212; at home where people should feel safe and secure.  While it is great for people to figure out WHY they do what they do, committing battery is against the law and that is the first issue. We are not allowed to randomly punch strangers on the street &#8212; and we can&#8217;t do it at home.</p>
<p>So &#8211; we stop that while we are learning about our wounded selves rather than giving ourselves &#8220;permission&#8221; to continue in what will never get us what we want. </p>
<p>I am always shocked at the vitriole from men who never seem to believe women can be victims and women who can never seem to believe men can be victims.</p>
<p>I am all for therapy (heck, I am a no longer practicing therapist) but at the end of the day people need to start by stopping.  THEN they can look at the why. </p>
<p>But that is just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Blumhorst</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/79100/comment-page-1/#comment-60217</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Blumhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salome, with the head of John the Baptist on a silver charger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salome, with the head of John the Baptist on a silver charger.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Blumhorst</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/79100/comment-page-1/#comment-60216</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Blumhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;More men beat women? because they can.

Fewer women beat men? because they can&#039;t.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

No, men don&#039;t beat women, because they are chivalrous.  Patriarchal chivalry actually protects women, but women like Mary Winkler use weapons, poisons and 3rd parties to level the playing field and kill men.  The later is certainly as old as time.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/MRA_06/WomenStillUseWeapons1.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;More men beat women? because they can.</p>
<p>Fewer women beat men? because they can&#8217;t.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>No, men don&#8217;t beat women, because they are chivalrous.  Patriarchal chivalry actually protects women, but women like Mary Winkler use weapons, poisons and 3rd parties to level the playing field and kill men.  The later is certainly as old as time.</p>
<p><a href="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/MRA_06/WomenStillUseWeapons1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/MRA_06/WomenStillUseWeapons1.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: panic</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/79100/comment-page-1/#comment-60206</link>
		<dc:creator>panic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely, this cannot mean that those all-wise, all-powerful mental health professionals are more concerned with increasing their influence than with actually solving the problem?

It can be distilled down quite a bit:

More men beat women... because they can.

Fewer women beat men... because they can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely, this cannot mean that those all-wise, all-powerful mental health professionals are more concerned with increasing their influence than with actually solving the problem?</p>
<p>It can be distilled down quite a bit:</p>
<p>More men beat women&#8230; because they can.</p>
<p>Fewer women beat men&#8230; because they can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Blumhorst</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/79100/comment-page-1/#comment-60192</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Blumhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s a criticism, calling attention to the problem, without offering a solution?

http://www.nfvlrc.org/LatestResearch/RecommendedBooks.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s a criticism, calling attention to the problem, without offering a solution?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nfvlrc.org/LatestResearch/RecommendedBooks.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nfvlrc.org/LatestResearch/RecommendedBooks.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ray Blumhorst</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/79100/comment-page-1/#comment-60190</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Blumhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, but you seem to overlook and disregard the need for women to take responsibility for all their violence against men.  As long as their is denial of that significant facet of the dynamics of domestic violence, the discussion will be disingenuous, IMO.  The piddling drivel of the ideologically driven, gender feminist, domestic violence industry is flawed to the heart of its misandrist, &quot;Patriarchy-hating,&quot; evil heart so when you refer to their misandrist propaganda it discredits everything else associated with, IMO.

If you want to present honest views about domestic violence in today&#039;s poisonous atmosphere surrounding the true dynamics of domestic violence, where witch-hunting all men is the norm, I think it should always begin by putting the grossly neglected truth first.  The grossly neglected truth is that women are every bit as much batterers as men, &lt;strong&gt;and it is women who initiate domestic violence on a significantly greater scale than men,&lt;/strong&gt; not in response to men&#039;s violence.  God knows men have been battered enough by the omission of truth and the female battering that preceded it.

http://tinyurl.com/37cxvq and  http://tinyurl.com/33nm2q and http://tinyurl.com/2qar86</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, but you seem to overlook and disregard the need for women to take responsibility for all their violence against men.  As long as their is denial of that significant facet of the dynamics of domestic violence, the discussion will be disingenuous, IMO.  The piddling drivel of the ideologically driven, gender feminist, domestic violence industry is flawed to the heart of its misandrist, &#8220;Patriarchy-hating,&#8221; evil heart so when you refer to their misandrist propaganda it discredits everything else associated with, IMO.</p>
<p>If you want to present honest views about domestic violence in today&#8217;s poisonous atmosphere surrounding the true dynamics of domestic violence, where witch-hunting all men is the norm, I think it should always begin by putting the grossly neglected truth first.  The grossly neglected truth is that women are every bit as much batterers as men, <strong>and it is women who initiate domestic violence on a significantly greater scale than men,</strong> not in response to men&#8217;s violence.  God knows men have been battered enough by the omission of truth and the female battering that preceded it.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/37cxvq" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/37cxvq</a> and  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/33nm2q" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/33nm2q</a> and <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2qar86" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2qar86</a></p>
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		<title>By: the ground truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>the ground truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CaptDMO</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/79100/comment-page-1/#comment-60166</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptDMO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gobbledy gouk.
K.I.S.S.
Everyone has &quot;childhood issues&quot;
Adults have a handle on them. 
Victimologyship practitioners  do not. 

I believe it would benefit all parties concerned if  
&lt;em&gt;social science&lt;/em&gt; theory was NEGATED in further bolstering
 the &quot;special&quot; DV court phenomenon, rather than invited to propagate exponential participation. 


Well, except, of course, folks associated with the courts, whose  living and self-image RELIES on the imagined conflict, rights, offense, and misery of others.
PhD in &lt;em&gt;Peripheral para-ancillary&lt;/em&gt; anyone?
There MUST be a better way to find employment for sociology grads
than a careerer in  Special Consultant to Asset Redistribution Syndrome
*sheesh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gobbledy gouk.<br />
K.I.S.S.<br />
Everyone has &#8220;childhood issues&#8221;<br />
Adults have a handle on them.<br />
Victimologyship practitioners  do not. </p>
<p>I believe it would benefit all parties concerned if<br />
<em>social science</em> theory was NEGATED in further bolstering<br />
 the &#8220;special&#8221; DV court phenomenon, rather than invited to propagate exponential participation. </p>
<p>Well, except, of course, folks associated with the courts, whose  living and self-image RELIES on the imagined conflict, rights, offense, and misery of others.<br />
PhD in <em>Peripheral para-ancillary</em> anyone?<br />
There MUST be a better way to find employment for sociology grads<br />
than a careerer in  Special Consultant to Asset Redistribution Syndrome<br />
*sheesh*</p>
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