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	<title>Comments on: In Defense of Janet Jenkins, Lesbian Mom</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/16/in-defense-of-janet-jenkins-lesbian-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-69038</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an absolut disagrace and a good reason why we should not have gay marriage or gay civil unions...legal problems.  No way should the mother be stripped of her biological child for someone with leading a life that over half of America says is immoral.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an absolut disagrace and a good reason why we should not have gay marriage or gay civil unions&#8230;legal problems.  No way should the mother be stripped of her biological child for someone with leading a life that over half of America says is immoral..</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/16/in-defense-of-janet-jenkins-lesbian-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-61610</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without smart and productive men America is finished. We have almost 40% out of wedlock births now. Greater than that in some communities (70+% in Black community; almost that in Hispanic communities-combined Blacks + Hispanics make up a large and growing percentage of the total population). This means greater and greater government spending to support a growing segment of the population that is made up of single-parent households. There are costs associated with increased poverty, increased crime. More taxation at a time when the elderly population is beginning to explode. Combining retired seniors and a large underclass and we are talking about a HUGE and entrenced unproductive drag on the economy that comes at the same time in history when America is facing stiff competition by global competitors. India and China each produce many times more engineers and scientists than the U.S. does. America cannot live off past accomplishments forever. The costly and unproductive direction that America&#039;s culture is going is unsustainable in the face of this stiff competition. America NEEDS men who are smart, productive, and have a vested interest in the society. To have vested interests men have to be first class citizens with rights, justice, and fairness. Damaging men&#039;s position in society will only guarantee a much worse future for EVERYONE. We don&#039;t need allies. We only need to protect our own interests (each of us). Let everything, and everyone else, go to hell. When the writing is on the wall and everyone else finally sees what is in store, they will all be looking for smart, productive men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without smart and productive men America is finished. We have almost 40% out of wedlock births now. Greater than that in some communities (70+% in Black community; almost that in Hispanic communities-combined Blacks + Hispanics make up a large and growing percentage of the total population). This means greater and greater government spending to support a growing segment of the population that is made up of single-parent households. There are costs associated with increased poverty, increased crime. More taxation at a time when the elderly population is beginning to explode. Combining retired seniors and a large underclass and we are talking about a HUGE and entrenced unproductive drag on the economy that comes at the same time in history when America is facing stiff competition by global competitors. India and China each produce many times more engineers and scientists than the U.S. does. America cannot live off past accomplishments forever. The costly and unproductive direction that America&#8217;s culture is going is unsustainable in the face of this stiff competition. America NEEDS men who are smart, productive, and have a vested interest in the society. To have vested interests men have to be first class citizens with rights, justice, and fairness. Damaging men&#8217;s position in society will only guarantee a much worse future for EVERYONE. We don&#8217;t need allies. We only need to protect our own interests (each of us). Let everything, and everyone else, go to hell. When the writing is on the wall and everyone else finally sees what is in store, they will all be looking for smart, productive men.</p>
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		<title>By: jackal1994</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/16/in-defense-of-janet-jenkins-lesbian-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-61603</link>
		<dc:creator>jackal1994</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did any of you do those connect the dot drawing books?

This has a lot to do with MRA&#039;s:
A) It displays that women can use PAS even in lesbian relationships (thus solidifying the claim PAS is real and harmful) but more importantly leads into:

B) the victim of PAS this time is a woman! As we all know protecting women in society is a much much easier sell then protecting men. So if MRA&#039;s can use this reverse-gender custody battle (and the judge makes a positive-NCP ruling) this ruling will automatically apply to fathers too

C) Most importantly: it&#039;s no secret that NOW and other womyn&#039;s organizations are hugely populated with bulldykes. If we can highlight this case and ask these lesbians &quot;how would YOU FEEL if........&quot; it could possibly shift the whole paradigm in the women&#039;s groups establishments.


Last year I saw footage of Martin Luther King&#039;s &quot;I have a dream speech&quot; at the reflecting pool in D.C.

The crowd was about a good 50-70% white. What does this tell me? That civil rights (for blacks) wouldn&#039;t have been won if not for hard-core white followers who believed real oppression and harm was going on against black.

Like it or not men/fathers are the new blacks. We CANNOT stand alone in this. Our only chance is getting as many people (men/women/black/white/latino/asian) in on this as possible--even lesbians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did any of you do those connect the dot drawing books?</p>
<p>This has a lot to do with MRA&#8217;s:<br />
A) It displays that women can use PAS even in lesbian relationships (thus solidifying the claim PAS is real and harmful) but more importantly leads into:</p>
<p>B) the victim of PAS this time is a woman! As we all know protecting women in society is a much much easier sell then protecting men. So if MRA&#8217;s can use this reverse-gender custody battle (and the judge makes a positive-NCP ruling) this ruling will automatically apply to fathers too</p>
<p>C) Most importantly: it&#8217;s no secret that NOW and other womyn&#8217;s organizations are hugely populated with bulldykes. If we can highlight this case and ask these lesbians &#8220;how would YOU FEEL if&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221; it could possibly shift the whole paradigm in the women&#8217;s groups establishments.</p>
<p>Last year I saw footage of Martin Luther King&#8217;s &#8220;I have a dream speech&#8221; at the reflecting pool in D.C.</p>
<p>The crowd was about a good 50-70% white. What does this tell me? That civil rights (for blacks) wouldn&#8217;t have been won if not for hard-core white followers who believed real oppression and harm was going on against black.</p>
<p>Like it or not men/fathers are the new blacks. We CANNOT stand alone in this. Our only chance is getting as many people (men/women/black/white/latino/asian) in on this as possible&#8211;even lesbians.</p>
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		<title>By: The Man On The Street</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/16/in-defense-of-janet-jenkins-lesbian-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-61600</link>
		<dc:creator>The Man On The Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gesh... I guess I broke the rules... My post is nunka!

TMOTS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gesh&#8230; I guess I broke the rules&#8230; My post is nunka!</p>
<p>TMOTS</p>
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		<title>By: lieweary</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/16/in-defense-of-janet-jenkins-lesbian-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-61580</link>
		<dc:creator>lieweary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand what this has to do with men&#039;s rights. &quot;Equality&quot; is not the sole or even the best basis for arguing against feminism; it isn&#039;t necessary to show that fathers and lesbians are in the same boat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand what this has to do with men&#8217;s rights. &#8220;Equality&#8221; is not the sole or even the best basis for arguing against feminism; it isn&#8217;t necessary to show that fathers and lesbians are in the same boat.</p>
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		<title>By: jesus christ</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/16/in-defense-of-janet-jenkins-lesbian-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-61569</link>
		<dc:creator>jesus christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You folks from the deep south are living up to your expectations. You sound like a bunch of bitter, god fearing, gun loving apes. Stay in your cages! Seek therapy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You folks from the deep south are living up to your expectations. You sound like a bunch of bitter, god fearing, gun loving apes. Stay in your cages! Seek therapy!</p>
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		<title>By: JohnG</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/16/in-defense-of-janet-jenkins-lesbian-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-61567</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  don&#039;t have very much sympathy for the lesbian&#039;s parasitic attachment for the child.  She has doesn&#039;t the biological bonding that the actual mother has.  Nor is she the &quot;father&quot; who would feel compelled to protect and provide.

The fact that the mother went Christian means that the lesbians lifestyle is abhorrent to the mother and counter to the religion - hence the woman is a bad influence.  Having her around would be no different than if she was a drug dealer that the mother wished to avoid contact with.

While I sympathize that the tactic that is similar to what vindictive women do to their &quot;ex&#039;s&quot;, why don&#039;t we save the emotion for natural relationships.

If the lesbian wants a child, I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a test tube available  somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  don&#8217;t have very much sympathy for the lesbian&#8217;s parasitic attachment for the child.  She has doesn&#8217;t the biological bonding that the actual mother has.  Nor is she the &#8220;father&#8221; who would feel compelled to protect and provide.</p>
<p>The fact that the mother went Christian means that the lesbians lifestyle is abhorrent to the mother and counter to the religion &#8211; hence the woman is a bad influence.  Having her around would be no different than if she was a drug dealer that the mother wished to avoid contact with.</p>
<p>While I sympathize that the tactic that is similar to what vindictive women do to their &#8220;ex&#8217;s&#8221;, why don&#8217;t we save the emotion for natural relationships.</p>
<p>If the lesbian wants a child, I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a test tube available  somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - Virginia Supreme Court to Rule on Ex-Gay Mom&#8217;s Flight from Justice</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/16/in-defense-of-janet-jenkins-lesbian-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-61561</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - Virginia Supreme Court to Rule on Ex-Gay Mom&#8217;s Flight from Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Men&#8217;s News DailyThe Virginian-Pilot PinkNews [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Men&#8217;s News DailyThe Virginian-Pilot PinkNews [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David R. Usher</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/16/in-defense-of-janet-jenkins-lesbian-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-61559</link>
		<dc:creator>David R. Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who thinks supporting expansions of lesbian entitlements to marriage and divorce is going to get a fair shake for everyone else is kidding themselves.  We have plenty of very legitimate problems of our own.  Whether or not Heather has a right to have two mommies is most certainly not in our interests to pursue.  Helping create the right for children to have two mommies via the back-end is highly detrimental to men&#039;s legitimate parental interests.  If  you want to see all men turned into sperm donors to lesbian marriages, just keep this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who thinks supporting expansions of lesbian entitlements to marriage and divorce is going to get a fair shake for everyone else is kidding themselves.  We have plenty of very legitimate problems of our own.  Whether or not Heather has a right to have two mommies is most certainly not in our interests to pursue.  Helping create the right for children to have two mommies via the back-end is highly detrimental to men&#8217;s legitimate parental interests.  If  you want to see all men turned into sperm donors to lesbian marriages, just keep this up.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/16/in-defense-of-janet-jenkins-lesbian-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-61554</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scope of men&#039;s rights activism has now expanded to include the defense of lesbian moms??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scope of men&#8217;s rights activism has now expanded to include the defense of lesbian moms??</p>
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		<title>By: DcFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>DcFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other parent in this case is not the &quot;lesbian social mother&quot; just because the selfish mother prefers dyking down over responsible parenthood, whether the barely mentioned &quot;anonymous donor&quot; agreed to have no part in his daughter&#039;s life or not. 

It&#039;s the whole idea that &quot;dad&quot; is whoever mom says he is that got children and fathers into the travesties they now routinely suffer.  From the perspective of the child, the other parent is the &quot;anonymous donor&quot;, period, whether this unfortunate little girl understands that yet or not.

Maybe the &quot;anonymous donor&quot; is anonymous because he doesn&#039;t even know he has a little girl.   Maybe he is you or me.  If not, then he is a true &quot;deadbeat&quot; who &quot;abandoned&quot; his child, and mommy wanting it that way doesn&#039;t make it right.  

You see, it&#039;s not what mothers want that is most important like our gynocracy would have you believe, it&#039;s what is right and best for children, families,  and society, just as all societies understood well before the gynocrats took over and got our children and families and society into this hell.

Anybody with a clue knows that the prevailing &quot;her choice&quot; theology of feminist jurisprudence is bad for women too, but if this case and Glenn&#039;s analysis comparing the &quot;lesbian social mother&quot; to an actual father helps some of the slower among us get their head out of the sand, then that&#039;s a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other parent in this case is not the &#8220;lesbian social mother&#8221; just because the selfish mother prefers dyking down over responsible parenthood, whether the barely mentioned &#8220;anonymous donor&#8221; agreed to have no part in his daughter&#8217;s life or not. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the whole idea that &#8220;dad&#8221; is whoever mom says he is that got children and fathers into the travesties they now routinely suffer.  From the perspective of the child, the other parent is the &#8220;anonymous donor&#8221;, period, whether this unfortunate little girl understands that yet or not.</p>
<p>Maybe the &#8220;anonymous donor&#8221; is anonymous because he doesn&#8217;t even know he has a little girl.   Maybe he is you or me.  If not, then he is a true &#8220;deadbeat&#8221; who &#8220;abandoned&#8221; his child, and mommy wanting it that way doesn&#8217;t make it right.  </p>
<p>You see, it&#8217;s not what mothers want that is most important like our gynocracy would have you believe, it&#8217;s what is right and best for children, families,  and society, just as all societies understood well before the gynocrats took over and got our children and families and society into this hell.</p>
<p>Anybody with a clue knows that the prevailing &#8220;her choice&#8221; theology of feminist jurisprudence is bad for women too, but if this case and Glenn&#8217;s analysis comparing the &#8220;lesbian social mother&#8221; to an actual father helps some of the slower among us get their head out of the sand, then that&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Squiggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squiggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t care.  It&#039;s a lesbian thing (i.e. totally alien) and it has nothing to do with normal human beings (especially male humans).  

And it also has nothing to do with men getting screwed by their exes, other than being proof that all women can be evil.

Glenn, homosexuality is wrong.  That being said, what two people do in their own home is no business of mine (and I would appreciate you and the gay mafia stop trying to shove it down my throat).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t care.  It&#8217;s a lesbian thing (i.e. totally alien) and it has nothing to do with normal human beings (especially male humans).  </p>
<p>And it also has nothing to do with men getting screwed by their exes, other than being proof that all women can be evil.</p>
<p>Glenn, homosexuality is wrong.  That being said, what two people do in their own home is no business of mine (and I would appreciate you and the gay mafia stop trying to shove it down my throat).</p>
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