See:
‘Bad Dads’ Reality TV Show Stirs Controversy
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-men/2008/05/02/bad-dads-reality-tv-show-stirs-controversy.html

In other words, some of the compromises of the very initial chartering of our founding (at least relative to the US) are again being given new breadth as some of the early administrators of slavery grasp again for the mint Julep days of fodder?

Consider that at least some of the former “lawyers” of the early “states” were quite accomplished in carrying forward certain provisions of the law of their day: including that of clause three, section two of Article IV of the Constitution provided for such as a part of the “Agreement” to disagree within the colonial states for purposes of congealing the “masses” for purposes of obtaining independence from the “throne.” Even then, the agreement to disagree and avoid lending voice regarding the “white elephant” was deemed to have been of an embarrassing blemish to the up-bringing of a democratic “civil” society.

So too today, some of the old-books that are being dusted represent merely of those for enabling Mint Julep types an opportunity to re-introduce concepts of indentured servitude. “on claim of [another] to whom services or labour . . . ” may be due.

I contend that DV has a lot to do with it. First of all, with the VAWA, women are often assured they will get full custody along with a hefty child support award once the alleged domestic violence. Because of this, many more women sue for divorce then would otherwise. We see this in areas where presumed equal custody is the norm. There are far fewer divorces in those locations.

I am sure you also are aware that there are a great many men who are denied access to their children even when court orders allow them to be “visitors” As a result many men may try to avoid paying support as they feel they are no longer a part of their lives much like we may refuse to pay for a car that turns out to be a lemon. Both courses of course would come with penalties that we would not like but with child support, one would end up being…a dead beat dad.

Terri Lynn Tersak also must feel it plays an important part as she included this in her e-mail to Mike Darnell

“You have more than likely received countless email and phone calls telling you how false claims of domestic violence are the root cause of the failure of our child support system. This is absolutely true and is covered in great detail in the reports referenced in this email.”

Please, no violence anyone. We meek who are left will inherit the earth one day.

Emails, cogent arguement backed with sound information, ‘discussion’ with anti-men media terrorists, letters to Editors of local and national newspapers, Ray Blomhorst style Utes with signs parked outside studios, Marc Rudov seducing Professor McKinnon and giving her a good smile-winning rogering on prime time TV?

All but the last has been conducted with other outrages with only marginal results and we have watched as the whole situation simply gets worse by the week. It wasn’t long ago that PBS was sent packing, after the event, leaving unfulfilled promises to be nice and do a counter program setting the record straight. Hah ! My beard has grown longer and more splendid and that is all.

Have we not learned that we are dealing with Gender Terrorists and any negotiation is bound to fail?

These thugs in suits and pant-suits are without honour. They lie. They terrorise. They are making War on men and fathers and they have no intention of letting up. Men die, David. Good men.

This latest outrageous plan is well underway. There will be more and worse. Political action will not change a thing. Being a nice Gentleman will not change the downward slide into the Abyss.

It is high time we took the War to them. It is high time that we let loose the Dogs and War and wreaked havok in their terriory; lay waste; have the bad do the dying.

What is your limit?

Where child support is clearly not connected in any way with actual earnings, but is an imputed fixed levy where the obligor has not be found to have committed a wrong in the first place, and where the obligor is forced to support individuals who have no reciprocal responsibilities and for which the obligor receives nothing in return, it can also be considered slavery under U.N. Conventions.

America has long criticized the Soviet Union and other governments who create “status crimes” to oppress particular classes. Child support and the “deadbeat dad” ruse is also a status crime — government puts men into a position they (in the great majority of cases) did not assume themselves. Because of that status, penalties are levied, placing the individual in a position where the relief they need is denied to them, thus solidifying the status of the individual.

In 1996, PROWA found excuses to use the status crime to pumcture fundamental constitutional rights such as owning a gun (on the excuse that it is an unnecessary luxury). Of course this is immediately and unconstitutional infringement.

The status crime also became the basis for removing non-fundamental but necessary common privileges (needed to earn a living in the majority of cases) such as having a driver’s license, a business license, and a passport. This is not legal because the punishment is not connected with the status crime. It is also illegal because it has the direct effect of making it difficult or impossible for the individual to earn the income necessary to alleviate the status crime. Many state and federal courts have held, in many different kinds of cases, that it is cruel and unusual punishment (and therefore unconstitutional) for government to levy any penalty that has the effect of putting the individual in a state of perpetual noncompliance.

Stephen Baskerville illuminates these issues brilliantly in “Taken Into Custody”.

all or parts of this scenario can and do happen on a daily basis to thousands/millions of men. guess that too was men’s fault for believing in the american system of marriage and justice. won’t happen again.

a new Men’s Rights Activist (MRA) is born.

And such legal process is declared null and void by 42 U.S.C. §1994.
In 1867 Congress was fully aware of the concept of alimony and child support and made a deliberate decision not to exclude these from their Antipeonage Act.

Just my two cents worth.

- – champion the now popular chorus for staging spectacles of live “witch hunts;” or

- embrace an integrity within for contributing virtuous investigative reporting and journalism that lend respect to the dignity of humanity?

In my opinion, plenty of valuable programming can be found along axioms respectful to humanity, while cautioning against hate and discriminatory incitations.

For example, might not valuable programing be readily available by which to inform the public of certain addicts of the Federal Dole?

The sick addicts of appalling captivations and fixations upon the “Candy Mountain” of our social security trusts need to be revealed for their rampent appetites thereof. We might even further endeavor to caste light upon their deep co-dependent rapports with other “IV-mainliners” that appear to be sheltering within our “States.”

And by such, we might even find rewards in the discouragement of hate; for hate, discrimination and the invigoration of ill-will certainly should never be rewarded. Nor should it ever be further incited.

I am well aware of all the information you cited. I have many other articles that discuss these facts. This piece is about what Fox is doing, and points readers to books and other articles that dig deeper into most of these facts.

I wanted this piece to be relatively brief and entirely on-topic. I did not want to get into a long winded recitation of data that is readily available elsewhere. Nonetheless, thanks for taking the time to add it. Some folks are too lazy to read books — they can get the 2000-foot view easily now.

As a member of the RADAR steering committee, I am patently aware of all aspects of social violence data. I have many articles about DV that have been very effective, for example in encouraging PBS to quietly walk away from their false documentary “Breaking the Silence” But, since the FOX show is not about DV, there is no reason to bring it up.

I have just seen a report on a new Fox reality show about dead beat
dads. This was on The Hollywood Reporter titled Fox zeroes in
on ‘Bad Dads’ by James Hibberd

While I applaud your efforts to make sure children are provided for,
I do want to point out that you have failed to do the needed research
in this area and you will do far more harm then good.

You see, there is a much larger percentage of dead beat moms then
there are dead beat dads. Most fathers are dead broke, not dead
beat. Many of our military dads will come back from Iraq and will
be automatic felons for not paying the child support ordered because
their income was cut but not their support demands.

I also want to point out that most dads who are allowed to see their
children do pay. Let look at some of the facts:

Information from multiple sources show that only 10% of all non
custodial fathers fit the “deadbeat dad” category:

90% of the fathers with joint custody paid the support due. Fathers
with visitation rights pay

79.1%; and 44.5% of those with NO visitation rights still financially
support their children. (Source: Census Bureau report. Series P-23,
No. 173).

Additionally, of those not paying support,

66% are not doing so because they lack the financial resources to pay
(Source: GAO report:GAO/HRD-92-39 FS).

The following is sourced from: Technical Analysis Paper No. 42, U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Income Security
Policy, Oct. 1991, Authors: Meyer and Garansky.

Custodial mothers who receive a support award: 79.6%

Custodial fathers who receive a support award: 29.9%

Non-custodial mothers who totally default on support: 46.9%

Non-custodial fathers who totally default on support: 26.9%

Only 11% of mothers value their husband’s input when it comes to
handling problems with their kids. Teachers & doctors rated 45%, and
close friends & relatives rated 16%

“40% of mothers reported that they had interfered with the non-
custodial father’s visitation on at least one occasion, to punish the
ex-spouse.”

“The former spouse (mother) was the greatest obstacle to having more
frequent contact with the children.”

“A clear majority (70%) of fathers felt that they had too little time
with=their children.”

In a study: “Visitational Interference – A National Study” by Ms. J
Annette Vanini, M.S.W. and Edward Nichols, M.S.W., it was found that
77% of non-custodial fathers are NOT able to “visit” their children,
as ordered by the court, as a result of “visitation interference”
perpetuated by the custodial parent. In other words, non-compliance
with court ordered visitation is three times the problem of non-
compliance with court ordered child support and impacts the children
of divorce even more.

I contend that Fox would do better to do a program on why dads are
absent from their children’s lives after a divorce. It certainly is
not in the “best interest of the children” as often after a divorce,
these children are “given” to their abuse as we can see from the
following:

Mothers are more than twice as likely as fathers to kill their
children: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm06/figure4_2.htm

This shows that mothers alone are responsible for 27.5% of the deaths
of their children which is more then twice that of fathers (13.1%)
Mothers and others result in 11.5% of the childhood deaths while
fathers and others are responsible for only 1.5%

Mothers are more than twice as likely as fathers to abuse their
children: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm06/figure3_5.htm

For abuse only, 39.9 percent of child victims were maltreated by
their mothers acting alone; another 17.6 percent were maltreated by
their fathers acting alone; 17.8 percent were abused by both their
mother and father. Victims abused by a nonparental perpetrator
accounted for 10.0 percent. Mothers and other came in at 6.1% while
fathers and other were 1.0%

I must admit that if this show does air, I do plan on watching it
once or twice….to find out who the advertisers are.

Pastor Kenneth Deemer

Director Shattered Men
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