Men’s Silence Is Women’s Gold
The Defeatist Generation
Tom Brokaw’s book, The Greatest Generation, is filled with personal accounts of brave American soldiers who fought in World War II. Until Brokaw interviewed them, in their august years, they never had spoken to anyone of their wartime experiences, believing that feelings are better left undisturbed and unarticulated, that silence and masculinity are synonymous. Instead of teaching their sons to fight like hell and sacrifice for a great cause, these reluctant talkers inadvertently created a generation of passively silent men who pathetically march to the feminist agenda. Alas, these Boomers, Gen-Xers, and Millennials are the men of The Defeatist Generation — willing to lay down their arms and surrender to the gynocratic army.
When the topic is Osama bin Laden, men are Rambo; when the topic is women, men are Bambi. Men will go bonkers over — and pay lots of cash to see — football, hockey, rock concerts, tractor pulls, boxing matches, and naked women. But, when elected officials legislate away their reproductive, civil, and custody rights, their rowdiness melds into reticence. These men of “action†are quickly transformed into passive, diffident, cheap wimps. If one of their friends gets falsely accused of rape, they will be shocked … for two seconds … and then hope like hell it never happens to them. End of story.
Like Tom Brokaw’s WWII heroes, men of The Defeatist Generation willingly suck up their pain, akin to the old circus guy taking a cannonball in the stomach. Unlike Brokaw’s war heroes, however, they win few gender wars because they rarely, if ever, fight back. Only defeatists subserviently wine & dine their girlfriends and wives for sex, and then see those same women gouge them in divorce court. Only defeatists continue to reelect and reelect Senator Joe Biden, the biggest man-hater in the US Senate, the father of VAWA — the inexplicably unconstitutional but thriving Violence Against Women Act.
On my radio show two weeks ago, I interviewed Michael Robinson, executive director of the California Alliance of Families and Children (CAFC). With an annual operating budget of $50K, Michael is the sole policy consultant for men’s rights in California. He competes with 25 feminist lobbyists, operating with $10M per year — outstaffed 25:1 and outspent 200:1. That’s why California, in 2008, still unconstitutionally defines DV as man hitting woman! Yet, he’s had some great legislative successes: preventing divorced mothers from unilaterally moving their children out of state, keeping parental alienation in the family-court lexicon, and putting a stop to some forms of paternity fraud.
Incredibly, if Michael Robinson quits his tireless policy-reform activities or becomes incapacitated, the men in California will have nobody to fight for them in Sacramento. They must find this alarming, right? Wrong. When I asked Robinson how much donation money he had received almost two weeks after appearing on my show, he answered: “Zero!†That’s right: men feel entitled to Michael Robinson’s hard work.
Survival of the Fittest
Money talks; bullshit walks. One must conclude, then, that the peripatetic men of the Golden State are so busy with bullshit, like playing fantasy football and paying their women for sex, that they can’t be bothered to worry about losing their rights. That’s why California is called the Golden State: men’s silence is women’s gold. Gynocratic politicians, and the male voters who elect them, enable women to mine the gold of maternity and paternity fraud, and false accusations of rape, DV, and sexual harassment.
Case in point: Senator Joe Biden wants to give women free access to 100K taxpayer-funded lawyers so they can falsely accuse men of DV and take their children away from them. Unconstitutionality aside, there are two psychological questions necessary here: 1) Why does Biden continue his angry rampage against men? 2) Why do the eunuchs of Delaware keep this A-hole in office?
Notwithstanding that “survival of the fittest†is an irrefutable axiom, known to every living creature on Planet Earth, men somehow contract amnesia and a death wish when women are present — their testicles experience real shrinkage. I see this every time a man pulls out a chair for his female competitor in the infamous boardroom on Donald Trump’s The Apprentice.
Passive silence is the signature characteristic of The Defeatist Generation. Just remember what happens to the proverbial frog sitting motionless in the pot of water over a low flame: as the water temperature slowly rises (akin to yet another misandrist law being passed), the frog incrementally approaches the point of death. Likewise, while men sit in silent oblivion, the determined feminists, aided by male politicians, incrementally crank up the legislative and judicial heat until these silent, oblivious men are dead in the water.
General Mills is currently running a misandrist Multi-Grain Cheerios commercial in which the husband, deathly afraid of his wife, informs her that the cereal has only 110 calories. She demands to know if he’s calling her fat. Then, he almost wets his pants and barely can look her in the eye, while apologetically explaining that he was merely reading the box’s nutrition matrix. “What else does the box say?†she gloweringly inquires. He sheepishly replies, “Shut up, Steve.†Finally, she shoots him a wan, condescending smirk of approval. I want to puke every time I see this trash. This eunuch is a typical cowering American male, a member of the Defeatist Generation. Why didn’t he just say to her, “Yeah, you have a fat ass!�
Why did General Mills fund this commercial? Because its VP of marketing felt that diminishing a man in front of his wife would sell cereal, based on how most couples interact. The eunuch in this Cheerios commercial is a proxy for every man who grovels to his merchant maureen for sex, for every feminist-controlled gynocrat who’s so fearful of his wife that he willingly throws his male constituents under the bus.
The NoNonsense Bottom Line
Based on my experience in this business, men tend to blame their misandry predicament on women. That’s like getting drunk and wrapping your new car around a tree, and then blaming the alcohol.
The reality is, men must blame themselves for slowly giving away their rights over the past 50 years. They must stop behaving like cringing, passive, silent, cheap ostriches and become titans of action — before the indefatigable feminists, with their deep Louis Vuitton bags, completely gut men’s rights. Men cling to their remaining right — the right to remain silent — and have made it an artform, a self-defeating death wish.
Men make two key mistakes in life: they recruit merchant maureens and elect gynocrats. A merchant maureen is a woman who drops her anchor into a man’s wallet, with his consent. He is silent, out of desperation for sex, and willingly gives her his gold. Most men, whether in private life or politics, just don’t have the balls to stand up to merchant maureens.
A gynocrat is a politician who cares only about women’s rights — men are invisible and irrelevant. Can you name an American politician who isn’t a gynocrat? Didn’t think so. Yet, gynocrats hold — and keep — elected office because men, 44% of the electorate, put and keep them there. Accordingly, gynocrats care nothing about men because they have no evidence that men care about themselves.
Men will protest a bad referee call during the Super Bowl, but they won’t protest bad laws that strip them of their rights. Men will pay thousands of dollars to purchase widescreen TVs the week before the Super Bowl, but they won’t contribute $10 to a lobbyist fighting for their rights to live as protected citizens. What else would you expect from the Defeatist Generation?
Again, men make two key mistakes in life: they recruit merchant maureens and elect gynocrats. Very simply, then, here’s how they can self-correct: 1) don’t recruit merchant maureens and 2) don’t elect gynocrats.
The true measure of a man is the courage of his convictions, the degree to which he’ll fight for his rights. The bottom line is the bottom line: How much do you really want to keep your gold? Your deafening silence says it all.
About the Author
Marc H. Rudov is a globally recognized radio/TV personality and author of 80+ articles and the books Under the Clitoral Hood: How to Crank Her Engine Without Cash, Booze, or Jumper Cables (ISBN 9780974501727), and The Man’s No-Nonsense Guide to Women: How to Succeed in Romance on Planet Earth (ISBN 0974501719). Mr. Rudov hosts The Marc Rudov Show, a radio talkshow for men, and is a regular guest on Fox News Channel’s Your World with Neil Cavuto and The O’Reilly Factor.
Rudov’s books, articles, blog, and podcasts are available at TheNoNonsenseMan.com.
Copyright © 2008 by Marc H. Rudov. All rights reserved.
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June 10th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
A buddy, who is a liberal feminist, said that the reason western women have all the power (relationship and government) is because they own all the pu$$y.
Marc, your observations about men’s apathy about their family rights are true. I observe that same.
In my opinion you’re helping change apathy to action, that is, creating awareness using popular media.
June 10th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
mruffolo,
The reason women have power is because men have ceded it. It’s that simple. As I have written, in Under the Clitoral Hood, the strong female libido gives MEN power. The men who keep whining about female power have not read my book and refuse to do so.
You have a choice: Keep on whining or educate yourself.
June 10th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Excellent article Marc. I am going to get off my butt and make a donation to a father’s and/or men’s rights group(s). So far I’ve written to politicians and newspapers, and pestered some feminist web sites but that’s it.
June 10th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Mike, how can we donate to Men’s News Daily if we don’t have a paypal account? Is there a name and address we can send a check or money draft to?
June 10th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Chill. I shared a friend’s insight and complemented you.
Thanks for the offer to buy your book.
June 10th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Marc:
Pure gold. I think you truly understand how we got into this mess. I was wondering as to WHY we abdicated our rights to women? I can’t believe that our founding fathers were this weak. Maybe it has to do with the fact that women 200 years ago didn’t push for priviliges, but now they do, men don’t know how to deal with it. Maybe it’s not that men have changed, but women have changed and for the first time we don’t know how to deal with the situation.
I guess it would be like being around dogs all your life, but never seeing a rabid one. Once you did see a rabid dog, maybe you wouldn’t know how to cope with it. I guess what you’re saying is we must stand up to women (and rabid dogs) and you’re trying to teach a world of men how to do this. Thank you.
Carl
June 10th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Best article yet Marc, I couldn’t agree more. If every man in California gave $10 to Mike Robinson’s CAFC they would have about $175,000,000, or if every man in this country gave $10 they would have about $1.5 billion. That’s the kind of money that speaks volumes and can make great changes. Hell, if everybody that reads this BLOG gives $10 it might be around $500k. Ten bucks buys about 2 ½ gallons of gas, ouch.
I believe this “female worship†culture was brought over here from the Old English Victorian era and is still in existence (too some degree) here. We need to break the chains of female worship and reinstate our natural leadership rights.
Sidebar: The father in a family should be the leader, not just the provider. Providing for a family without at least equal rights to the mother is nothing more than servitude.
June 10th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Great article.
June 10th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
mruffolo,
Every time I write an article, someone — like clockwork — fulminates about women having nooky power. I’m tired of it. Any man who thinks a woman has power over him, because of her vagina, is an idiot.
When you read my book, then you won’t write posts like that anymore.
June 10th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
I must say Marc, today men are poodles. They havn’t been hurt bad enough… But they will…Sure they will ! Just another decade…
Patschef
http://masculinisme.blog-city.com/
June 10th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
It’s odd to me that men seem so confused about how women got power over men. If you take a day or two to watch women’s TV or read chic lit, you start to get an idea. Women actually have written about how much power they have to train boys to be the kind of men women want. Imagine a man writing in any major publication for men about training girls to “serve” men.
Mom’s have complete control the first few years of a boys life and then female teachers the first four or five years take over. He learns to compete for love, hugs, cookies and he realizes, many do, that she can totally kick his ass. Intimidated, then strung along by feminst teachers telling him he is “unworthy” then sex urges kick in and he is told his thoughts about sex make him a pig but despite haveing a dick or being a dick, those who have vaginas – exalted beyond … beyond what… smile… Vagina mono, girl power, Victorias Secret million dollar bras… it’s really crazy out there. The same guys who wonder why men are treated like pigs call each other the worst insult they can, dicks, … not realizing that they are teaching another generation that women’s bodies have so much value and male bodies so little that of course, like a monkey, they must bring a gift to be granted her “favors.”
Where are the men, absent so long – those who are around are, for the most part, brainwashed and needy, chubby dorks who don’t take care of their bodies because they have been taught their bodies don’t matter as much as their wallets, … so they sign up for unhealthy jobs to pay for pussy… she dresses better, watches her diet, looks better, while he starts knocking down that six pack to help deal with another crappy day at work to get money to make her happy… thinking that’s his only option besides competing with other men to show the women that he is not a “misogynists”
Biden, others, give billions to help the PR of the feminist in women’s studies, women’s health industry, the DV industry, the divorce industry, billions to show the world at every chance their daily image of men who fail.
They, you know who they are, want to tax us for our tendency towards crime when it’s mothers slapping boys faces and female teachers telling them they are pigs and absent MEN not around to make sure that that “other” gender shows equal respect for boys and men that causes some men to commit crimes. And whenever have they offered to pay men a users fee for our MANY inventions that have greatly improved their lives. And we men, not me, not a few others, and eat shit daily pretending we are not…smiling stupidly while women put men down with myths and lies about DV, rape, money earnings, health and education issues. Ya, I am angry with feminist women but just as angry with “dorks” who don’t take the time to educate themselves to demand that the lies and propaganda stops. If the paper lies, don’t buy it, tell the TV news that you are switching the channel, get a different car and tell those bastards that it’s because their commercials make men look stupid, or evil.
It’s not rocket science. Most men and women are weak, pathetic, followers. They are following strong women who don’t mind lying, cheating, and using our schools to beat up on boys. Those beat up boys grow up to be weak men.
Rudov is right, “nooky power” is a myth. Sex, like cigarettes, drugs, TV can become a shelter, an addiction. Men who crawl for pussy rarely get it, they end up bringing gifts, cash, cars to get it rarely… go to the gym, work out, get a hobby or two, save your money, by a nice condo, women will start lining up because they see a man not a boy, not a horny dog they can get to sit up, beg, role over, and bark real loud as if he is still a man. They see a man that they want to have sex with, those who like sex that is. Some just don’t like sex, but they enjoy their power over weak men.
Biden is not a man. He rolled over to get his tummy scratched, he is a dog that doesn’t care about his brothers, … and if you haven’t ever written a letter to the editor to protest feminist lies, or ever coughed up some money for this site or for a father’s rights group, start doing something, your grandsons are going to have it even worse. If you are past 4o and haven’t helped, dig deep, and get some other men to do the same.
SD
June 10th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Let’s not make this harder than it is. We could win the war against feminism quite easily if enough men would just stand up like men and speak up for their rights and stop taking it lying down. It’s really not that hard if we just get motivated and do it! Stand up and be counted, brothers! Write to your local paper or a politician and give to the cause.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Zorik,
Precisely right. Don’t recruit merchant maureens. Don’t elect gynocrats.
Tell the world: http://www.CafePress.com/NoNonsenseShop
June 11th, 2008 at 12:01 am
One more thing: you don’t have to be eloquent to write. Often all that’s needed is a short paragraph to let people know you care about the issues and where you stand on them.
June 11th, 2008 at 5:02 am
The thesis is spot on, but …. you don’t care much for chaps, do you Marc.
This is a strange generation alright. I have given somwhere around $500 ozbucks to this group or that, this individual or that – mainly in the US actually – over the past few years, despite living in near povery. I have been struck by just how many MRAs actually refuse, from a lack of trust perhaps, and put up arguements as to how useless funding lobbyists is.
So, what WILL get men off their arses, Marc? I don’t think blanket insult will work, but hey, its maybe worth a try. How do I send you $10 ? I don’t want your friggin’ book though. I am well past caring about making any woman my best and fairest.
June 11th, 2008 at 6:14 am
If you want to know why it will keep happening, take a look at what your children are being taught in school. Boys are constantly scolded for being boys, and girls are taught that anything they do is acceptable behavior. Specifically, boys are taught never to touch girls in any way (it is their ‘right’ not to be ‘abused’), but girls are taught that being physical with boys is to be lauded as ‘competing in a man’s world’. I have had to constantly teach my daughters that you treat a boy the way you want to be treated yourself, ie., equally and fair, and my sons that if a girl hits you, you do the same back to her. And I have had to explain the latter to parents and school administrators regularly. If a girl hits my sons, they have my permission to hit back. Pretty novel concept isnt it? It used to be called equality.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:00 am
JustOneGuy,
If you want to know why it will keep happening, it’s simple: men keep recruiting merchant maureens and electing gynocrats. Men live in Wayne’s World, where they don’t feel worthy. Stop blaming the past. Start your new life today.
It’s time for every male to grow a pair and become a man. Stop all this bellyaching & soapbox oratory about highfalutin’ junk science. The next time you wine & dine a merchant maureen, you’re the problem. The next time you vote for a gynocrat, you’re the problem — not your mother, not your ex-wife, not the NOW.
Only on MND can men invent impotent excuses for their own lack of backbone and courage. Stop it. Grow a pair.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:06 am
This is one of the best articles yet. I agree with a comment above that refered to Queen Victoria. She is the reason I have prefered to live much of my adult life in non-English speaking countries.
Queen Victoria, as she rounded age 30, got very insecure about keeping Prince Albert from the 20 year olds around them (most of the more obnoxious feminist activists are physically unattractive and motivated by the desire to punish men for not being interested in them). So she got eunuchs to agree that British Commonwealth society should hold that the older women should be cherished and not abandoned…sexually as well as emotionally. This opened up the common Victorian thread that men (and younger women) should not really have a say in social matters but to let the older matrons handle how things should be.
Victorianism is behind modern American victim feminism – see http://www.amazon.com/New-Victorians-Womans-Challenge-Feminist/dp/0446672394/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213194560&sr=8-1 and, sadly, much of the new Laura Bush approved Christian right agenda.
Post-menopausal matrons run US society as they did in Victorian England…making it a myth that women in power have any sexual power over any male…and their male eunuch enablers (on the right) try to justify giving power to the matrons by saying “we need to support family values” (in the Victorian Era, the British male conservative leaders justified letting matrons run society because they said this would help Britain produce lots of babies to populate the Army and Navy to maintain empire).
In the Victorian Era, it was the men on the left who basically fought against this mindset. Back then, the men of the Victorian Era at least had some politicians on their side. But, these days, we cannot rely on the publishers of even men’s magazines to lift a finger to help us.
A few months ago, the publisher of Hustler told me “Why should the aholes who read my magazine care about whether they have the right to talk to a woman in another country?” (I was referring to the IMBRA law). He was either being obtuse or simply telling the truth: the readers of Hustler just want to look at pictures…they don’t care about actually having to meet and get along with the women they like to look at. This publisher is not going to be telling men that their rights are disappearing.
I believe the modern American left and right joined forces against men in 1986, when both sides colluded to announce that all heterosexual single males were carriers of AIDS and that all young women should avoid them.
Since then, although the lie about hetero males being the being suspects for having AIDs has thankfully been debunked in the mind of a new generation of women (the Baby Boomer women avoided sex for years after the AIDs scare), the water has been slowly starting to boil for heterosexual males and one of the biggest traitors has been George W Bush.
His boss, Laura Bush, is friends with the likes of 40 something Karen Czarnecki, who is a major Republican operative who absolutely hates males (and also happens to be the Director of the 21st Century Workforce in the US Dept of Labor). Guess what kind of new workplace laws we are going to have if McCain gets elected and keeps Karen Czarneck in her position?
Feminists like Naomi Wolfe and Rene Denfield tried hard to let people know in the late 90s that there is a difference between victim feminism (Victorian feminism) and equity feminism (good feminism). But the media let the evil feminists win. Nobody in the media talks about such differences anymore.
I presume that not even Bill OReilly or Neil Cavuto would allow a discussion about the two kinds of feminism (victim and equity). It would be interesting if Marc could get on TV with Christina Hof Sommers who wrote “Who Stole Feminism” and Naomi Wolfe who wrote “Fire With Fire”, two women authors who fought to make such distinctions a decade ago…if only to ask them what they think about the fact that the media no longer makes the distinctions between the various feminisms and what they think about the fact that men are not doing anything to defend themselves against the likes of Joe Biden and Sam Brownback.
The Republican politicans are as bad or worse than Democrats like Biden. Sam Brownback, the man who convinced his Republican colleagues to vote for VAWA/IMBRA with a speech on December 17th, 2005, recently went on Vatican Radio to tell the world’s women to avoid dating American men…because “these guys only want to live out their sexual fantasies.”
When Sam Brownback was running for President last summer, he was confronted by a lawyer in Iowa about that statement. Sam Brownback answered “I didn’t think this issue was a big deal for anybody”.
To you see the significance in that last statement?
A top US Senator was saying, 1.5 years after the passage of VAWA/IMBRA, that he honestly never got the impression that anyone had a problem with that.
And I believe Brownback.
I believe that I and maybe 5 other people ever wrote to Brownback or called his office to complain.
Brownback’s office knows that some guy named Jim Peterson is the one of maybe 3 or 4 guys who calls about feminism.
Because nobody else ever calls his office or writes about that subject…why should he care about men?
June 11th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Marc is 100% correct about this. That American Men have conceded defeat to the Feminists and have given in their Rights. Many Men in the US are unwilling to even confront the issue. And instead let their Johnson do their Thinking for them. So they like obedient Boys open their Wallets and Wine and Dine the Entitlement princesses. We have allowed ourselves to become little more than Indentured Servants to Women. If we raise our voices in Protest we are Rapists and Rape enablers.
Any venue where Men’s comments can be censored by Women routinely are. Any derogatory comment about Men is invited and permitted. Men who stick up for ourselves are banned or censored. All you have to do is read the comments regarding the Candidacy of the Junior Senator of NY by her supporters to see anybody who voted for Obama is a Sexist bigot. Even Women are seen as Gender Traitors.
IMBRA is a step toward Slavery for Men. It declares that Men are defacto Abusers and Rapists. By our own Federal Government. It denies us Due process of Law, and violates the Equal Protection clause of the Constitution. How long will this Republic survive the incremental erosion of our Freedoms? Only time will tell. But there is a huge amount of Moral Cowardice in the US amongst our Men. Who no longer know how to be Men.
I never imagined it would get this bad. That Men would be this reviled and hated. While being asked to lay down their lives to defend this Nation. It is appalling what is happening to the Sheep who used to be Rams. Thanks Marc for telling it like it is.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Justoneguy made some good points.
Fathers need to teach their kids to respect Men and stop worshipping women.
If you remove all the makeup, high heels, jewelry, fake boobs, hair extensions, bra’s and such, most women are rather homely, at least most women over the age of 40. Most women understand that their beauty is a mirage and some use the above to manipulate men.
It is hard not to feel sorry for women and I think that is part of the problem. We want to fight for our rights but can’t get past how pathetic they can be.
Don’t get me wrong, like any man, I love women (but hate all feminists), but most are just one major pain in the ass.
Women are not the enemy, feminist’s are. Feminist’s are both male and female and in all political parties, and walks of life.
Note: There is no such thing as a good feminist, all are evil.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:01 am
GreatMRNI,
I will repeat what I wrote above in my article:
Based on my experience in this business, men tend to blame their misandry predicament on women. That’s like getting drunk and wrapping your new car around a tree, and then blaming the alcohol.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Jim Petersen did a great job in defining the mindset of the Victorian Era. Cultural influences are somewhat subliminal and attitudes can be blindly accepted as the norm, as Marc or someone pointed out with his frog in warm water analogy.
Marc, I realize you are not blaming women, I’m just reiterating your point.
June 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
GreatMRNI wrote: “Marc or someone pointed out with his frog in the warm water analogy.”
This proves you don’t read. This is in my article, not someone’s post. You are NOT reiterating my point. I made my point in my article. Stop whining about the Victorian Era. Stop whining, period.
What are YOU going to do in YOUR life TODAY? Specifically, are YOU going to stop wining & dining merchant maureens? Are you going to stop electing gynocrats? Are YOU going to contribute money to the CAFC? I’m waiting for the first man to answer these questions in the affirmative.
June 11th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
The worst inaction is the almost total inactivity challenging any of these laws…in a country where any citizen is allowed to walk into a federal courtroom with a challenge written on the back of a cereal box.
We still need at least one man to challenge IMBRA. This has, shockingly, never happened in 2.5 years. Dating websites gave a half-hearted attempt to challenge IMBRA way back in 2006, which resulted in the law being on restraining order for a year (in practical terms). But they never listened to any of their customers and both challenges failed to mention feminism while saying the law had “good intentions”. In fact, the Ohio challengers felt they needed to hire a feminist lawyer (Jennifer K) who proceeded to tell the judge (I paraphrase very little here) “there has never been a fundamental liberty interest in an American contacting a foreigner…but please be the first to grant such a right on the foundation that women were granted the right to abortion”.
Someone should sue Sarkin Pinales for malpractice there. When lawyers fight for the other side, it is time to do a pro se challenge yourself (dating sites, by the way, have no interest in making it easy for men to meet women online = they benefit from government roadblocks that allow them to tell American men that they cannot allow people to meet face to face quickly).
I would say one of the biggest shocks of my life is the fact that ZERO men in 2.5 years have been willing to simply walk into a federal courtroom to get a surefire restraining order on IMBRA. There are executives in public companies (who cannot challenge themselves because of their exposed positions) who would do all the research and paperwork and even provide the money.
I personally know 4 of the best MRAs are in CEO positions or high-level government positions that they could lose in an instant.
Most men are not in such exposed positions where they could fall too far and too fast….
But these men are almost never those who even post comments on MND much less do the homework to write articles.
Every week two losers write to me at Veterans Abroad to whine and complain about IMBRA or VAWA…and then they disappear when I suggest that they actually do something about it.
Is anyone out there a retiree or someone who wants to explore earning money as a men’s rights activist? Challenging IMBRA could get you your first two months income. I know that men will cough up $6000-8000 quickly for someone who seriously wants to start challenging some of these bad laws.
June 11th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
By the way, I tried sending this article to Tom Lykis and it was rejected because of “content”. I used the tom@blowmeuptom.com email address. That was strange.
How many others have sent Marc’s article to at least 200 people?
If you haven’t done so, does that mean you have no database?
Besides challenging one of these laws, anyone who agrees with Marc that silence is fatal, must develop a database and constantly write to or call the people in it.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Marc, you are right about part of this. What is driving it is, of course, is the fact that no-fault divorce incentivised by property settlement, alimony, and child support fleecing provides the easiest way for a lawyer to earn his living.
Proving or preventing the proving of wrongdoing is hard work and risky.
With “no-fault” divorce, we dispense with the due process of law and go straight to the deprivation of property.
Why men, other than lawyers and politicians, are putting up with this crap, well that is a good question.
It is not that hard to get pussy. Even without money. Of course, the state is offering money, through its welfare and child support extortion racket, for that pussy!
You think you are doing it the Marc Rudov way, cranking her engine without pouring money into the carburetor to prime it, and the state pimp shows up with the bill and the thugs with guns to enforce it!
June 11th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Marc is understandably shocked at the way most men do nothing even after they learn about the issues. I just noted that half the men on MND who comment or write about men’s rights are CEOs or execs (Khamrunthebulgar for instance)…meaning regular 9-5 working guys and retirees with time to kill rarely even comment on MND much less do anything else. Regarding Victorianism…Fox News would never allow Marc to criticize Republican male leaders like Brownback for blindly following that queen’s heavy legacy. Biden and Clinton are fair game on that channel. FNC and Rudov are using each other while probably having different agendas. If he gets to talk to a McCain spokesman on FNC…that show will be one heck of a show to watch.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Wow. My letters to 200 contacts is starting to pay off.
Here an American woman blogger just published a link to Marc’s article:
http://forthardknox.com/2008/06/11/men-sacrificing-their-rights-to-feminists-and-its-not-an-issue-in-the-2008-election/
June 11th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Apathy is a Killer of men. It’s time for men to organize and donate to men’s groups like NOWMEN.NET. We need money to hire lobbyist’s to bring about change. Without representation in government nothing will happen. Man Up! at NOWMEN.NET
June 11th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Jim Peterson,
You are incorrect to state that Fox News would never allow me to criticize a Republican. Fox News is not in the tank for any political party or candidate, and does not tell me what to say or what not to say. Please be cautious in making statements you cannot support.
June 12th, 2008 at 7:15 am
OK, let me understand this. All I need to do is send someone a $10 donation and buy a book and my troubles will be over.
I’d be willing to bet that men could solve a good number of their problems themselves without sending money or relying on someone else by doing two things.
Tell women that you absolutely will not get married until VAWA is repealed.
Tell women that you absolutely refuse to have children until Presumptive Joint Custody Law is the norm in every state.
Let them choose.
We all know the likelyhood of those two things happening.
June 12th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Fantastic idea.
My girlfriend knows I will not get married to her until VAWA is overturned but she is not American and cannot speak English…so she cannot complain in US court.
But if someone reading this has an English speaking fiance, American or otherwise, by all means put her on the spot. If she really wants the marriage, she should need to complain in US federal court that her boyfriend said, in writing, that he cannot marry her until the law is overturned.
It would be interesting to see the Supreme Court try to say that the US government represents foreign women and the foreign woman cannot represent themselves. All women should, of course, suffer from a boycott until this is overturned.
I thought this was understood by all MRAs.
I hope nobody here got married since 2005. If you did that and you just ignored VAWA or complied with IMBRA, you deserve what you might get.
It is not hard to ask your woman to challenge VAWA/IMBRA (provided she can speak English).
June 12th, 2008 at 10:36 am
If I were a feminist reading comments #31 and #32, I would be dancing in the streets.
June 12th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
As an American male, I really don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I read most of these statements.
They are so pathetically paranoid and stupid it is mind-boggling, and indicative of the need for residents of the US to have someone, anyone to blame other than themselves, including these “gynocrats.” What absolutely totally stupidity.
As Mr Rudov wrote, “Stop whining about the Victorian Era. Stop whining, period.”
All one has to do is to realistically extend all this childish, pathetic whining by all these men as to what a mature woman must think when she reads these pieces of paranoid immaturity is to be grateful that she is either currently or in the past married to such a two-legged spineless wonder.
When a woman marries a male, she wants a male who can be the leader of a family unit, not some sniveling, bitching little wimp who can’t face her, much less the world.
And, as Mr Rudov writes, ” Stop whining about the Victorian Era. Stop whining, period.”
Men … mature men .. are way to busy worrying about their duties and responsibilities as husbands and fathers than to worry about bitching like immature teenage girls about such stylish and trendy people like “gynocrats.”
Why in the world would any mature woman ever want such a pathetic person as that as her partner and life companion … no way in Hell!!
Mr Rudov is very, very right … ” Stop whining about the Victorian Era. Stop whining, period.”
Stop whining, and stop being a bunch of pathetic, bitching paranoid wimps, and grow up..and become real, mature MEN!
June 12th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
By all means let the feminazis dance in the streets. I recommend never getting married to, nor being married with, anyone inside the legal jurisdiction of the NAU…err, I mean the USA (for now that is).
If women raised in the amerikan kulture were not planning to grow old alone, they would fight VAWA tooth and nail in the political arena. However, they seem to welcome it with open arms, so let them have the consequences too.
Let them see the feminazis dance in the street. Hell, I would like to see that too. None of this crap affects me since I won’t ever be getting married in the soon to be NAU and I strongly recommend to you, gentlemen, that you recoil (or refrain) from this mistake as well.
Want to get married? Want to have kids? Then go somewhere that is safe and accepting of that type of activity, such as a non-western country.
Besides, in human history, it has never been easier nor more pleasant for men to be single than it is right now.
You should revel in it.
June 12th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
USAMBRA: coming soon to a country you’re in. What would this USAMBRA be? Why a domestic edition of IMBRA, but imposing draconian controls on the communications of American men to American women.
The need of feminists to control men in the most vicious and punitive ways possible is INSATIABLE. Which is why capitulation is futile: they can NEVER get enough control over men, and people like Biden are eager to make the government a tool to that end.
How to stop it?
1. Attend county Republican meetings and raise this and related issues. Don’t hit and run, really get involved so that your positions will be regarded seriously.
2. Write articles for MND with any pseudonym you want. Well, almost any pseudonym. “FathersHaveNaturalRights” is taken.
3. Talk with other guys just casually. Most have never even heard of IMBRA or VAWA. Don’t rage, just bring them onto the same page: namely, being in agreement that such things are stupid, unConstitutional, and need to be repealed. Then, switch the topic to the magnificence of Jessica Alba so you don’t sound like a one track dude.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
[Men ... mature men .. are way to busy worrying about their duties and responsibilities as husbands and fathers than to worry about bitching like immature teenage girls about such stylish and trendy people like "gynocrats."]
Wow. You are reading the wrong forum buddy. You are calling Marc Rudov a teenage girl for talking about gynocrats on TV? I suppose you feel that men should suck it up and be good husbands and fathers with VAWA and IMBRA firmly in place, right?
Sounds like a troll from the Tahirih Justice Center.
Whatever you have been smoking, buddy, and whatever cause or political party you presume to support…please try to take that attitude more public and see what the response is.
Try to argue with Marc on national TV that his gynocrat message is just “whining”.
Meanwhile, Marc: Do you see what happens when you put down people on your own side? They can divide and conquer easily.
Imagine you and I arguing on Fox News. The viewers might decide, correctly, that the MRM has no organization and the MRAs don’t even like each other.
My comments on Victorianism were dead correct. The majority of Americans know the word “Victorianism” to represent a bad thing.
I noted that the Victorian MALE leadership (Tories) fell in line behind the ugly insecure old lady (who hated that Prince Albert was cheating on her – sound familiar?) and made excuses for themselves such as wanting British society to support “family values” so more soldiers and sailors could be produced to build the British empire.
It would be great to see you talk about Victorianism on Fox News…at least the aspect that Victorian men fell in line behind a woman who was acting in her own personal interest.
I know you believe in premarital sex. So do I. We are part of the anti-socon wing of the Republican Party. The socons are afraid to defend Victorianism publicly, but they are the inheritors of the Queen’s legacy (the legacy of a bitter ugly woman who didn’t like the fact that her husband cheated on her with an intern 150 years ago).
If you put that Victorianism comment down as “whining”, then anti-MRA people are just going to come out and say that you and every MRA is whining.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Bottom line, Marc, is that we need to bury the hatchet.
Unfortunately, you and I are part of only 6 or 7 people who care enough about men’s rights to do anything at all about it.
Mike has noted to me that he has been shocked over the years on how few male readers are capable of picking up the ball and writing something readable themselves on MND.
So it is down to just a half dozen men to fight the gynocracy…and half of those 6 are CEOs or executives like myself who have zero time for this.
Note that I am the only one who comes to your “defense” when you ask your readers to go to a feminist blog that is trashing you.
But getting back to that socon above who just put down the entire MRM including yourself…this is exactly what will happen if MRAs put each other down.
Maybe there should be a conference call of top MRAs every week or month…via Skype.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
And to the guy above who said that talking about “gynocrats” is whining: If you are one of the 200 conservative opinion-makers whom I wrote to about Marc’s article, be warned: if the Republican Party does not come out against feminism before November, they will be defeated badly including John McCain.
You cannot win by putting American males down…and telling them “nothing to see here folks…those laws were just meant to protect women from guys who don’t want to stay married”.
June 13th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Let feminist laugh! Why should any man care what a feminist thinks? Trying to change the mind of a feminist is wasted effort.
As far as the article goes, I can’t recall how often I’ve heard this same bitch over the past 20 years. Please spare me. I’ve paid my dues.