It’s the same problem we face from women who imply men are all jerks because *some* men commit rape.

I could just as well say that all women are sluts because *some* women are prostitutes. I could call that a ‘characteristic of being female’. How would you like that?

Wars are not characteristic of being male. They are characteristic of being Nazi, Commie, deceived, narrow-minded, hostile, etc.

I take back having a problem with it if that is acceptable.

That is something I … never mind.

………..

So, what are the sides again? I keep losing track as to whether this is not just a leftist fight amongst it’s own followers.

FRA … sure I am 100% behind that.

Mothers and fathers rights …. sure I am 100% over that too.

Both those things I can work with. The rest I can’t find any sense for it just seems like a power war. How can I take sides over a gender power war? That is just silly IMO.

The battle is on for Humanity’s soul. The issue is Truth and Justice, Decency and Morality. The enemy is the Princess of LIES, a terrible and often subtle bitch whose intent is destruction. We MUST care who wins.

It won’t just ’sort itself out’. That is fatalism and an abandonment of the very ‘independance’ that women think they seek. How ‘empowering’ is is to sit back and wait while things ’sort themselves out’?

Quite how we go about defeating this curse on the soul is problematic but it isn’t helped by wishy-washy indecision and willful blindness about the nature of the fight or lack of care about its outcome. Nor by carping criticism of means that have not worked very well to date, acted upon by people who have been trying hard and come back from the battle-front bloodied and exhausted. A shade more thoughtful analysis is in order and a lot more resolve.

But before even that, you must decide just whose side you fight on. The Good or the Bad. It is a simple Black and White issue, Julie, especially as in the fog of war a multitude of colours are difficult to discern. Having a highly developed ability for colour discrimination is fine for an interior decorator, but we need women – like you – to put the fabric swatches down, pick up a gun and point it in the right direction – like Teri does.

Harry is defining means and pressing resolution buttons. Support him. Follow his lead. And if you are still confused, follow Teri or another who can see through the fog and smoke and knows what to do.

Or get out of the way.

I think you have to just let it sort itself out. That is what most are and have been doing so far.

And personally,. I don’t care who wins as long as the good parents have some control of their children’s well being. Even just a chance to fight for their rights emotionally.

Until men and women decide they can’t be in charge alone, the ones in the middle are paralysed to do anything anyhow.

And what about those hate-filled women we have read about in Palestine who are very proud of raising their sons up to be suicide bombers? Do you think women are innocent of bloodshed? Please think again.

You have a negative view of men if you think all we do is start wars. First of all, we do lots of other things. Most scientists and inventors were men. Most captains of industry were and are men. Etc, etc.

And speaking of wars, what about all the heros who died to save us from tyrants? 99% or more were men. Even when it comes to wars, there are the heros and the villians, but you see men only as villians.

Changing that status is the core of the REAL fight against feminist megalomania.

Men cannot say, “Well, we concede custody, care, raising, education, and direction of the human race’s children to women…but gosh darn it we still want to be treated as valuable”:

DOES NOT WORK.

Maybe men have started zillions of movements. Yet, I don’t actually know what they were. Are we talking about wars?

But this is not a normal war.

Nonsense. Of couse we can have a movement. We have one already. Men have started zillions of movements and this will not be our last, just one of our best and most noble ever. Don’t belive rubbish to the contrary.

I think Harry was pretty clear who not to respect. In my book it’s everyone who profits off the pain and suffering of fathers (and mothers) and their children. I stopped respecting them as soon as I saw the hate and lies THEY promote.

I do not think feminizing men is a good idea. It’s going against God, for one thing. It’s as bad as saying being gay isn’t biological. Being masculine is biological too.

If the truth were told, instead of all the myths about men and violence, no one would even think we needed to feminize men. THEY promote those lies.

Let me tell ya, if or when we have civil unrest, I want strong, tough, brave, even angry men around to help protect me. Luckily my son is one of those guys.

Why is the government systematically removing rights from men? Why this push for VAWA and I-VAWA? I think I’ve figured it out.

After watching David Icke’s video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4799447112501062338&q=4799447112501062338&ei=aqJzSKXlE5SK2wLd6JGoAQ and this one http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871&ei=KmyaSIuDKKfyqwOH\
r4Uj&q=9%2F11+mysteries&hl=en
about 9/11, I get it. They’re only starting with men. We’ll be next.

thanks for sticking in with us,

teri

You are all wise adults and you know there is more to this than men cutting down trees and slashing their swords through the forest.

In reality (in the real world) the MRM wonders if men can even have a movement because of the characteristics of being a male.

They are not feminising them to make them weak but feminising them to adjust to the way of the new age. They are saying, “Let go of your warrior ways, the clearing exists, it is time to build the world for the best of humankind”.

“Do not respect them,” suggest AH. But who is he referring to? It is not just feminists. It is anyone educated enough to lead change.

Yes, change is also shared parenting. Yes, change is also men’s refuges. Yes, change is also antimisandry.

But change is also bringing down the big corporations and the corrupt leaders who are just loving this. And building, building, building.

Take a step back is what I ask for. Look to how hate or even defiance of working together will destroy all our children. Look to how easy the churches will fall because they didn’t build but fought.

It is about writing a new page. The world needs the MRM and yet the MRM only cares to destroy. “How can we follow them to build for the city needs to rebuild”.

Rome has fallen. Our world will not become desolate and it won’t get there because there is too many knowledgeable and too much knowledge to stop it from doing so. We can’t hope for destruction just to satisfy pride.

Sometimes heart is better than hate.

These guys don’t dislike women. I’m a woman and they like me. I must admit, I probably frustrated the hell out of them for the three years it took for me to believe them. I know Harry and I had it out. Now I respect him greatly.

I had to see this stuff with my own eyes, and I did. Feminists and DV “pros” lied under oath to my legislators. They also had a letter-writing campaign. Thousands of feminists across the country lied to my legislators, and we didn’t get our shared parenting bill passed.

This has to stop. The truth must win, for our kids, for our grandkids. Half of them are male.

teri

If you have something useful to say then say it. If you want to disagree, OK. Otherwise, save your “I hate you crap” for girl’s night out.