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	<title>Comments on: No Room for Men at the Abuse Shelter, but Fido can Tag Along</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets face it women today are socially,legally and morally irresposible.  They have always been this way, but the state, being a bunch of thieves, has found a way to capitolize on it!  They  have pandered to these &quot;spoiled rotten&quot;  she-children until they believe it should be this way.  Now men, having alway had to be responsible and have always been held to a high standard are fed up.  Because they have been reduced to  a virtual &quot;second class&quot; status, less than even a dog! A man dealing with a women has virtually no rights.  Well its time to fight back.
I urge every man out there to learn the law, learn how it works and how to use it to restore the balance.  The law is perfect, but the &quot; legal sysem&quot; is a fraud and racket.
I have found with experience that once you learn how to use the remedies under the law and yes the corrupt court have to abide by it, like it or not, you can put a stop to the abuse and restore, atleast some of your lost rights.  You can have a fighting chance, when coming up against a woman and her state co-defendants.  You can literally put the fear of God in them and make them act at least half ass reasonable. I believe that  if enough men do this, we could launch a revolution.  We could put the corrupt racket , we call the legal system out of business and replace it with a system of law.  Because that is what the founding fathers wanted us to have.  A fair and just system, where everybody is equal.  A system where &quot;government officials&quot; are complient, obedient and respectful servants who know who they work for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets face it women today are socially,legally and morally irresposible.  They have always been this way, but the state, being a bunch of thieves, has found a way to capitolize on it!  They  have pandered to these &#8220;spoiled rotten&#8221;  she-children until they believe it should be this way.  Now men, having alway had to be responsible and have always been held to a high standard are fed up.  Because they have been reduced to  a virtual &#8220;second class&#8221; status, less than even a dog! A man dealing with a women has virtually no rights.  Well its time to fight back.<br />
I urge every man out there to learn the law, learn how it works and how to use it to restore the balance.  The law is perfect, but the &#8221; legal sysem&#8221; is a fraud and racket.<br />
I have found with experience that once you learn how to use the remedies under the law and yes the corrupt court have to abide by it, like it or not, you can put a stop to the abuse and restore, atleast some of your lost rights.  You can have a fighting chance, when coming up against a woman and her state co-defendants.  You can literally put the fear of God in them and make them act at least half ass reasonable. I believe that  if enough men do this, we could launch a revolution.  We could put the corrupt racket , we call the legal system out of business and replace it with a system of law.  Because that is what the founding fathers wanted us to have.  A fair and just system, where everybody is equal.  A system where &#8220;government officials&#8221; are complient, obedient and respectful servants who know who they work for!</p>
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		<title>By: sir_iw</title>
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		<dc:creator>sir_iw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing people don&#039;t realize in Washington state, if a woman reports to be a victim of domestic violence, she can get first slots on section 8 housing and emergency government assistance.  Some women released from jail and prison to use this to their advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing people don&#8217;t realize in Washington state, if a woman reports to be a victim of domestic violence, she can get first slots on section 8 housing and emergency government assistance.  Some women released from jail and prison to use this to their advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen many articles on this subject over the past two decades, in more than one country, but none that tell the true story - and get the point across - as well as this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen many articles on this subject over the past two decades, in more than one country, but none that tell the true story &#8211; and get the point across &#8211; as well as this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise Noe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise Noe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shatteredmen said,

My husband could black my eye so me and the kid could go to a battered womanâ€™s shelter and he will go to jail
Denise, That was many years ago. There has been some major improvement since then. Now she would not have to get a black eye to get a bed in a womanâ€™s shelter, as all she would need to do now is to say she was abused. She would not need proof. Of course, their first course of action is to tell her to get a divorce and although Fido could be with her, her soon to be ex husband would be in the dog house for the rest of his life.

I also contend that if she made that statementâ€¦she DID consider it.

Today the false accusation rate is much higher then most realize because being a victim of domestic abuse can be very rewarding if you can pass the physical for itâ€¦.that being of course that you are the right gender.

(Denise) Apparently the couple had at least been considering having the husband black her eye so she and their little son could spend the night at a battered women&#039;s shelter and he would get a roof over his head in jail. In that particular scenario, the man is a willing accomplice to the false accusation because he might be so desperate for the woman and child to get a place to lay down for the night and/or he might consider a cot in jail superior to sleeping out in the open.
At any rate, this is hardly what we generally think of as &quot;battery.&quot; Both the man and the woman could be considered victims of their own bad luck or of the lack of adequate social services for people without homes. In that sense, they would be equally victims. However, the scenario of an agreed-upon black eye doesn&#039;t fit at all into the perception of a male brute and a battered female.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shatteredmen said,</p>
<p>My husband could black my eye so me and the kid could go to a battered womanâ€™s shelter and he will go to jail<br />
Denise, That was many years ago. There has been some major improvement since then. Now she would not have to get a black eye to get a bed in a womanâ€™s shelter, as all she would need to do now is to say she was abused. She would not need proof. Of course, their first course of action is to tell her to get a divorce and although Fido could be with her, her soon to be ex husband would be in the dog house for the rest of his life.</p>
<p>I also contend that if she made that statementâ€¦she DID consider it.</p>
<p>Today the false accusation rate is much higher then most realize because being a victim of domestic abuse can be very rewarding if you can pass the physical for itâ€¦.that being of course that you are the right gender.</p>
<p>(Denise) Apparently the couple had at least been considering having the husband black her eye so she and their little son could spend the night at a battered women&#8217;s shelter and he would get a roof over his head in jail. In that particular scenario, the man is a willing accomplice to the false accusation because he might be so desperate for the woman and child to get a place to lay down for the night and/or he might consider a cot in jail superior to sleeping out in the open.<br />
At any rate, this is hardly what we generally think of as &#8220;battery.&#8221; Both the man and the woman could be considered victims of their own bad luck or of the lack of adequate social services for people without homes. In that sense, they would be equally victims. However, the scenario of an agreed-upon black eye doesn&#8217;t fit at all into the perception of a male brute and a battered female.</p>
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		<title>By: shatteredmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>shatteredmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband could black my eye so me and the kid could go to a battered womanâ€™s shelter and he will go to jail 

Denise, That was many years ago.  There has been some major improvement since then. Now she would not have to get a black eye to get a bed in a woman&#039;s shelter, as all she would need to do now is to say she was abused.  She would not need proof.  Of course, their first course of action is to tell her to get a divorce and although Fido could be with her, her soon to be ex husband would be in the dog house for the rest of his life. 

I also contend that if she made that statement...she DID consider it.  

Today the false accusation rate is much higher then most realize because being a victim of domestic abuse  can be very rewarding if you can pass the physical for it....that being of course that you are the right gender. 

All of this is brought  to us by our tax payer dollars as we fund the feminist agenda to break up our homes.  One of the best ways they are doing this is by the Violence Against Women Act.  

We have a photo essay on the Shattered Men website to show what abused women can expect in the shelters and be sure to click on the link to see what shelters abused men will be finding.

http://shatterdmen.com/Women%20Shelters%20Arrangments.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband could black my eye so me and the kid could go to a battered womanâ€™s shelter and he will go to jail </p>
<p>Denise, That was many years ago.  There has been some major improvement since then. Now she would not have to get a black eye to get a bed in a woman&#8217;s shelter, as all she would need to do now is to say she was abused.  She would not need proof.  Of course, their first course of action is to tell her to get a divorce and although Fido could be with her, her soon to be ex husband would be in the dog house for the rest of his life. </p>
<p>I also contend that if she made that statement&#8230;she DID consider it.  </p>
<p>Today the false accusation rate is much higher then most realize because being a victim of domestic abuse  can be very rewarding if you can pass the physical for it&#8230;.that being of course that you are the right gender. </p>
<p>All of this is brought  to us by our tax payer dollars as we fund the feminist agenda to break up our homes.  One of the best ways they are doing this is by the Violence Against Women Act.  </p>
<p>We have a photo essay on the Shattered Men website to show what abused women can expect in the shelters and be sure to click on the link to see what shelters abused men will be finding.</p>
<p><a href="http://shatterdmen.com/Women%20Shelters%20Arrangments.htm" rel="nofollow">http://shatterdmen.com/Women%20Shelters%20Arrangments.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Denise Noe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise Noe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding women in abuse shelters who aren&#039;t victims of abuse: It just so happens that many years ago, my then-husband and I encountered a lady with a small child. She seemed like a perfectly nice person. She told us that she and her husband and child had just been evicted from their apartment. They had no relatives or friends who would take them. She said, &quot;My husband could black my eye so me and the kid could go to a battered woman&#039;s shelter and he will go to jail but we don&#039;t know how long he could be in jail or how much it might cost us for him to do that.&quot; They apparently didn&#039;t intend to take that route. However, I&#039;m sure that idea has occured to couples in similarly dire straits and that some probably did exactly that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding women in abuse shelters who aren&#8217;t victims of abuse: It just so happens that many years ago, my then-husband and I encountered a lady with a small child. She seemed like a perfectly nice person. She told us that she and her husband and child had just been evicted from their apartment. They had no relatives or friends who would take them. She said, &#8220;My husband could black my eye so me and the kid could go to a battered woman&#8217;s shelter and he will go to jail but we don&#8217;t know how long he could be in jail or how much it might cost us for him to do that.&#8221; They apparently didn&#8217;t intend to take that route. However, I&#8217;m sure that idea has occured to couples in similarly dire straits and that some probably did exactly that.</p>
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		<title>By: John Maguire</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Maguire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great headline, Carey. And guess what political persuasion is running most of these wymmin&#039;s shelters?  You guessed it, frequently lesbians, the group whose belief is that men are less human than dogs. It&#039;s our tax dollars supporting these dens of thievery and hatred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great headline, Carey. And guess what political persuasion is running most of these wymmin&#8217;s shelters?  You guessed it, frequently lesbians, the group whose belief is that men are less human than dogs. It&#8217;s our tax dollars supporting these dens of thievery and hatred.</p>
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