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		<title>By: Squiggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squiggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh goody.  Paul has another troll on his side.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll call him on his &quot;anonymity&quot; also, right?  As for that, you have to be a nut to put your identity out for the internet crazies to grab, without at least some type of just compensation.  What&#039;s your compensation, &quot;Paul&quot;?

Okay, you know I have no PHD so I&#039;m not an expert, eh?  And you&#039;re an expert in biology, why?  I believe you&#039;re not degree&#039;d, so let&#039;s use YOUR logic - Paul Burnett - &lt;b&gt;shut up and go away, troll&lt;/b&gt;.

As for you &quot;&lt;i&gt;agentorange&lt;/i&gt;, same thing - go away troll.  You think you know something about me (and the majority of readers of MND), but you don&#039;t.  You&#039;re trying to collar me with a sixteenth century catholic monks thoughts on the age of everything.  I&#039;m not catholic, I&#039;m not a monk, and I&#039;m not from the sixteenth century (I&#039;m way older than that).

Knowing God exists doesn&#039;t keep me from &quot;believing&quot; in science.  I love science.  Darwinism isn&#039;t science.  Global warming (as put out by the IPCC) isn&#039;t science.  For that matter, psychology doesn&#039;t fit the parameters of science.  Results aren&#039;t reproducible, theories are rarely testable, and failure is never allowed.  You just force the &quot;facts&quot; into whatever your preconceived notions are, and ignore what you don&#039;t like.  And if you&#039;re like Paul there, you get really angry and throw things.

AgentOrange, don&#039;t be a Paul.  Your life will be short and unhappy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh goody.  Paul has another troll on his side.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll call him on his &#8220;anonymity&#8221; also, right?  As for that, you have to be a nut to put your identity out for the internet crazies to grab, without at least some type of just compensation.  What&#8217;s your compensation, &#8220;Paul&#8221;?</p>
<p>Okay, you know I have no PHD so I&#8217;m not an expert, eh?  And you&#8217;re an expert in biology, why?  I believe you&#8217;re not degree&#8217;d, so let&#8217;s use YOUR logic &#8211; Paul Burnett &#8211; <b>shut up and go away, troll</b>.</p>
<p>As for you &#8220;<i>agentorange</i>, same thing &#8211; go away troll.  You think you know something about me (and the majority of readers of MND), but you don&#8217;t.  You&#8217;re trying to collar me with a sixteenth century catholic monks thoughts on the age of everything.  I&#8217;m not catholic, I&#8217;m not a monk, and I&#8217;m not from the sixteenth century (I&#8217;m way older than that).</p>
<p>Knowing God exists doesn&#8217;t keep me from &#8220;believing&#8221; in science.  I love science.  Darwinism isn&#8217;t science.  Global warming (as put out by the IPCC) isn&#8217;t science.  For that matter, psychology doesn&#8217;t fit the parameters of science.  Results aren&#8217;t reproducible, theories are rarely testable, and failure is never allowed.  You just force the &#8220;facts&#8221; into whatever your preconceived notions are, and ignore what you don&#8217;t like.  And if you&#8217;re like Paul there, you get really angry and throw things.</p>
<p>AgentOrange, don&#8217;t be a Paul.  Your life will be short and unhappy.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The anonymous creationist sympathizer who continues to hide behind an anonymous username of Squiggy said: &quot;&lt;em&gt;And yes, I do have a degree in psychology.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

Oh, wow, like I&#039;m terrified.  You and I have been through this before - you only have a Masters in psychology, not a Doctorate - right?  Big whoop, like that makes you an expert in...what?  Creationism?  Harassing those who support actual science as opposed to the fairy tales of intelligent design creationism?

You said &quot;&lt;em&gt; You firmly believe that anyone who doesnâ€™t think like you is stupid. This is a classic mental disorder.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;  

Cool - what&#039;s your diagnosis?  Get out your DSM IV and give me a number and name for the &quot;mental disorder.&quot;

Then look up 297.1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The anonymous creationist sympathizer who continues to hide behind an anonymous username of Squiggy said: &#8220;<em>And yes, I do have a degree in psychology.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, wow, like I&#8217;m terrified.  You and I have been through this before &#8211; you only have a Masters in psychology, not a Doctorate &#8211; right?  Big whoop, like that makes you an expert in&#8230;what?  Creationism?  Harassing those who support actual science as opposed to the fairy tales of intelligent design creationism?</p>
<p>You said &#8220;<em> You firmly believe that anyone who doesnâ€™t think like you is stupid. This is a classic mental disorder.</em>&#8221;  </p>
<p>Cool &#8211; what&#8217;s your diagnosis?  Get out your DSM IV and give me a number and name for the &#8220;mental disorder.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then look up 297.1.</p>
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		<title>By: agentorange</title>
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		<dc:creator>agentorange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What it means is when you really look into the nitty gritty, eolution is a theory with no logical support, but they still have blind faith that evolution must be right. &quot;

Zorik,

Hmmm, lets look into your statement of looking into the &#039;nitty gritty&#039;. Here&#039;s some nitty girtty, and I&#039;ll be, it supports evolutionary theory. Who&#039;da thunk it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkM3iFn7eLc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsZjCokzpJM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De-OkzTUDVA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0


&quot;You firmly believe that anyone who doesnâ€™t think like you is stupid.&quot;

Squiggy,

I seriously think anyone who is normally rational and logical in their everyday lives, but yet when they compartimentalize their brains and (somehow?) considers a 6000 year old Universe/Earth, a talking snake, a global flood and other such things as historical as tenable reality, it tends to suggest they are a bit off the deep end.

&quot;And yes, I do have a degree in psychology.&quot;

Sure you do, and I am Queen of England. Either of these statements are equally worthless without actual evidence backing them up, essentially making them mere mearsays. Oh, but you knew that and why it&#039;s illogical and that I&#039;d state that, because well you have a degree in psychology!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What it means is when you really look into the nitty gritty, eolution is a theory with no logical support, but they still have blind faith that evolution must be right. &#8221;</p>
<p>Zorik,</p>
<p>Hmmm, lets look into your statement of looking into the &#8216;nitty gritty&#8217;. Here&#8217;s some nitty girtty, and I&#8217;ll be, it supports evolutionary theory. Who&#8217;da thunk it?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkM3iFn7eLc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkM3iFn7eLc</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsZjCokzpJM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsZjCokzpJM</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De-OkzTUDVA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De-OkzTUDVA</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0</a></p>
<p>&#8220;You firmly believe that anyone who doesnâ€™t think like you is stupid.&#8221;</p>
<p>Squiggy,</p>
<p>I seriously think anyone who is normally rational and logical in their everyday lives, but yet when they compartimentalize their brains and (somehow?) considers a 6000 year old Universe/Earth, a talking snake, a global flood and other such things as historical as tenable reality, it tends to suggest they are a bit off the deep end.</p>
<p>&#8220;And yes, I do have a degree in psychology.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure you do, and I am Queen of England. Either of these statements are equally worthless without actual evidence backing them up, essentially making them mere mearsays. Oh, but you knew that and why it&#8217;s illogical and that I&#8217;d state that, because well you have a degree in psychology!</p>
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		<title>By: Squiggy</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/17/why-albertans-rejected-darwinian-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-65090</link>
		<dc:creator>Squiggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Creationist sympathizer&lt;/i&gt;????????


Wow.  You really have a large chip on your shoulder. &lt;i&gt;So what&lt;/i&gt; if some other people with large chips on their shoulders have denounced him?  To quote you - &quot;see Galileo&quot;.

You atheist/libtards are really nuts.  You firmly believe that anyone who doesn&#039;t think like you is stupid.  This is a classic mental disorder.  You need help.  

And yes, I do have a degree in psychology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Creationist sympathizer</i>????????</p>
<p>Wow.  You really have a large chip on your shoulder. <i>So what</i> if some other people with large chips on their shoulders have denounced him?  To quote you &#8211; &#8220;see Galileo&#8221;.</p>
<p>You atheist/libtards are really nuts.  You firmly believe that anyone who doesn&#8217;t think like you is stupid.  This is a classic mental disorder.  You need help.  </p>
<p>And yes, I do have a degree in psychology.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burnett</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/17/why-albertans-rejected-darwinian-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-65078</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The creationist sympathizer hiding behind the anonymous username of &lt;b&gt;Squiggy&lt;/b&gt; said: &quot;&lt;em&gt;By the way, what is an â€œex-biologistâ€? I never heard of an â€œex-doctorâ€, or an â€œex-physicistâ€. Behe didnâ€™t renounce his education.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

Well, actually, he has.  That was just a shorthand way of saying that Behe has dropped out of participation in the actual practice of biology and science.  How many science articles has he had published in actual peer-reviewed science journals in the last decade or more?  (As opposed to blatantly anti-science / pro-creationism non-peer-reviewed popular publications such as &quot;Pandas II, or The Edge of Evolution.&quot;)  

And Behe most famously provided sworn testimony in Federal court that for intelligent design creationism to be called &quot;science,&quot; the very definition of &quot;science&quot; would have be so dumbed down that astrology could also be called &quot;science&quot; - see http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dover/day11pm.html  

In the world of religion, that would be called apostasy.

And you&#039;ve got to admit that while Behe may not have formally renounced his education, his entire Biology Department has certainly renounced and denounced him - see http://www.lehigh.edu/bio/news/evolution.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The creationist sympathizer hiding behind the anonymous username of <b>Squiggy</b> said: &#8220;<em>By the way, what is an â€œex-biologistâ€? I never heard of an â€œex-doctorâ€, or an â€œex-physicistâ€. Behe didnâ€™t renounce his education.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, actually, he has.  That was just a shorthand way of saying that Behe has dropped out of participation in the actual practice of biology and science.  How many science articles has he had published in actual peer-reviewed science journals in the last decade or more?  (As opposed to blatantly anti-science / pro-creationism non-peer-reviewed popular publications such as &#8220;Pandas II, or The Edge of Evolution.&#8221;)  </p>
<p>And Behe most famously provided sworn testimony in Federal court that for intelligent design creationism to be called &#8220;science,&#8221; the very definition of &#8220;science&#8221; would have be so dumbed down that astrology could also be called &#8220;science&#8221; &#8211; see <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dover/day11pm.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dover/day11pm.html</a>  </p>
<p>In the world of religion, that would be called apostasy.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;ve got to admit that while Behe may not have formally renounced his education, his entire Biology Department has certainly renounced and denounced him &#8211; see <a href="http://www.lehigh.edu/bio/news/evolution.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lehigh.edu/bio/news/evolution.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Squiggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squiggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Burnett said,
&lt;i&gt;That is no surprise. A judge is not a scientist&lt;/i&gt;

No, but a biologist is.  You can&#039;t pick and choose Paul.

By the way, what is an &quot;ex-biologist&quot;?  I never heard of an &quot;ex-doctor&quot;, or an &quot;ex-physicist&quot;.  Behe didn&#039;t renounce his education.  He just believes in God.  Why does that offend you atheists so much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Burnett said,<br />
<i>That is no surprise. A judge is not a scientist</i></p>
<p>No, but a biologist is.  You can&#8217;t pick and choose Paul.</p>
<p>By the way, what is an &#8220;ex-biologist&#8221;?  I never heard of an &#8220;ex-doctor&#8221;, or an &#8220;ex-physicist&#8221;.  Behe didn&#8217;t renounce his education.  He just believes in God.  Why does that offend you atheists so much?</p>
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		<title>By: Zorik</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/17/why-albertans-rejected-darwinian-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-65063</link>
		<dc:creator>Zorik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the last seminars I heard at the university (before I got fired for spreading scientific facts by professor-boss wanted to suppress) was held by a biologist who said we need to &quot;rethink evolution&quot;.  What he really meant was that new knowledge has shown that evolution makes no sense (it never did anyway) and they can&#039;t really explain how we could have evolved.  

What it means is when you really look into the nitty gritty, eolution is a theory with no logical support, but they still have blind faith that evolution must be right. 

And they call that science.  Duh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the last seminars I heard at the university (before I got fired for spreading scientific facts by professor-boss wanted to suppress) was held by a biologist who said we need to &#8220;rethink evolution&#8221;.  What he really meant was that new knowledge has shown that evolution makes no sense (it never did anyway) and they can&#8217;t really explain how we could have evolved.  </p>
<p>What it means is when you really look into the nitty gritty, eolution is a theory with no logical support, but they still have blind faith that evolution must be right. </p>
<p>And they call that science.  Duh.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burnett</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/17/why-albertans-rejected-darwinian-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-65061</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of Denyse&#039;s heroes appears to be Michael Behe, an ex-biologist who has a new career as a religious apologist.  Behe is nominally employed at Lehigh Univerty&#039;s Biology Department, which has this to say about him:  &quot;The department faculty, then, are unequivocal in their support of evolutionary theory, which has its roots in the seminal work of Charles Darwin and has been supported by findings accumulated over 140 years. The sole dissenter from this position, Prof. Michael Behe, is a well-known proponent of &quot;intelligent design.&quot; While we respect Prof. Behe&#039;s right to express his views, they are his alone and are in no way endorsed by the department. It is our collective position that intelligent design has no basis in science, has not been tested experimentally, and should not be regarded as scientific.&quot; - http://www.lehigh.edu/bio/news/evolution.htm

Denyse writes &quot;The 2005 Judge Jones decision in Pennsylvania...has not crimped the worldwide growth of interest in intelligent design. That is no surprise. A judge is not a scientist...&quot;  Unfortunately, a columnist is not a scientist either, but a judge&#039;s decision stands until overturned, and this decision was not appealed: &quot;We have concluded that intelligent design is not science, and moreover that intelligent design cannot uncouple itself from its creationist, and thus religious, antecedents.â€

Denyse writes &quot;This summer a meeting of key evolutionists took place at Altenberg, Austria, to revise the theory.&quot;  That&#039;s not what happened.  Contrary to the mis-information and dis-information deliberately crafted by the Dishonesty Institute&#039;s Casey Luskin and confused journalist Susan Mazur, here&#039;s a report on what actually happened: http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/07/luskin-has-lost.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of Denyse&#8217;s heroes appears to be Michael Behe, an ex-biologist who has a new career as a religious apologist.  Behe is nominally employed at Lehigh Univerty&#8217;s Biology Department, which has this to say about him:  &#8220;The department faculty, then, are unequivocal in their support of evolutionary theory, which has its roots in the seminal work of Charles Darwin and has been supported by findings accumulated over 140 years. The sole dissenter from this position, Prof. Michael Behe, is a well-known proponent of &#8220;intelligent design.&#8221; While we respect Prof. Behe&#8217;s right to express his views, they are his alone and are in no way endorsed by the department. It is our collective position that intelligent design has no basis in science, has not been tested experimentally, and should not be regarded as scientific.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://www.lehigh.edu/bio/news/evolution.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lehigh.edu/bio/news/evolution.htm</a></p>
<p>Denyse writes &#8220;The 2005 Judge Jones decision in Pennsylvania&#8230;has not crimped the worldwide growth of interest in intelligent design. That is no surprise. A judge is not a scientist&#8230;&#8221;  Unfortunately, a columnist is not a scientist either, but a judge&#8217;s decision stands until overturned, and this decision was not appealed: &#8220;We have concluded that intelligent design is not science, and moreover that intelligent design cannot uncouple itself from its creationist, and thus religious, antecedents.â€</p>
<p>Denyse writes &#8220;This summer a meeting of key evolutionists took place at Altenberg, Austria, to revise the theory.&#8221;  That&#8217;s not what happened.  Contrary to the mis-information and dis-information deliberately crafted by the Dishonesty Institute&#8217;s Casey Luskin and confused journalist Susan Mazur, here&#8217;s a report on what actually happened: <a href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/07/luskin-has-lost.html" rel="nofollow">http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/07/luskin-has-lost.html</a></p>
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