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	<title>Comments on: McCain&#8217;s Running Mate</title>
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		<title>By: Squiggy</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/24/mccains-running-mate/comment-page-1/#comment-65566</link>
		<dc:creator>Squiggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perspicacious, I&#039;m pretty sure my short posts don&#039;t really qualify as &quot;rants&quot;, but to each his own.

It&#039;s hard to know &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt; to believe about you.  You bring up accusations against Sarah that come straight from the Daily Kos and claim you&#039;re objective (and for what you people accuse her of, the actual evidence is scant - there are just as many, or more people on her side).  Now you tell me you (and your mother) made the same &quot;mistakes&quot; as the Palin family, and give yourself a pass (but these mistakes cause &lt;i&gt;bothersome questions&lt;/i&gt; about Sarah).  Nice little double standard there.

I was going to assume you were telling the truth in your bio there, but the more I think about it, the less likely that seems.  Your &quot;history&quot; and your viewpoints don&#039;t really add up.  People don&#039;t usually trash others who&#039;ve gone through the same things as they did.  They normally commiserate, feel a kinship.  Unless one of them did it a lot better than the others.  Then there could be severe jealousy.

I guess I&#039;ll stop ranting now.  This is supposed to be comments on Sarah-cuda, not &quot;mind-reading attempts&quot; on other commenters.  I did pretty well getting my psychology degree, but I totally failed mind-reading 101.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perspicacious, I&#8217;m pretty sure my short posts don&#8217;t really qualify as &#8220;rants&#8221;, but to each his own.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to know <i>what</i> to believe about you.  You bring up accusations against Sarah that come straight from the Daily Kos and claim you&#8217;re objective (and for what you people accuse her of, the actual evidence is scant &#8211; there are just as many, or more people on her side).  Now you tell me you (and your mother) made the same &#8220;mistakes&#8221; as the Palin family, and give yourself a pass (but these mistakes cause <i>bothersome questions</i> about Sarah).  Nice little double standard there.</p>
<p>I was going to assume you were telling the truth in your bio there, but the more I think about it, the less likely that seems.  Your &#8220;history&#8221; and your viewpoints don&#8217;t really add up.  People don&#8217;t usually trash others who&#8217;ve gone through the same things as they did.  They normally commiserate, feel a kinship.  Unless one of them did it a lot better than the others.  Then there could be severe jealousy.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;ll stop ranting now.  This is supposed to be comments on Sarah-cuda, not &#8220;mind-reading attempts&#8221; on other commenters.  I did pretty well getting my psychology degree, but I totally failed mind-reading 101.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/24/mccains-running-mate/comment-page-1/#comment-65516</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perspicacious : I agree with you in principle, but have been out on the web and the abuse of power thing looks like rumors and gossip. As I understand it, the charges were made by her political rival. What else can I say? I don&#039;t have an inside track to other information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perspicacious : I agree with you in principle, but have been out on the web and the abuse of power thing looks like rumors and gossip. As I understand it, the charges were made by her political rival. What else can I say? I don&#8217;t have an inside track to other information.</p>
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		<title>By: perspicacious</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/24/mccains-running-mate/comment-page-1/#comment-65514</link>
		<dc:creator>perspicacious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amofortas Said:  And she [Palin] likes men, marriage and motherhood, mmm, a good thing - evidenced by her family - and, quite unlike Biden who is still being bullied by his big sister, she seems to actually like her sister.

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Indeed Palin apparently does like her sister, Molly McCann probably more than is wise considering the problems it is causing her in Alaska right now.  

As for the &quot;evidenced by her family&quot; comment I&#039;m guessing you haven&#039;t heard about the family problems her little sister has regarding her own marriages, divorces and current custody battle.  Not exactly the makings of an *entirely* harmonious family life there.  Like any family there are always problems but to ignore Palin&#039;s in regards to her little sister or to pretend such problems are of no consequence to men&#039;s issues is to bury your head in the sand.  

It remains my opinion that a female politician who will inject herself into private family matters is not someone who will be good for men OR women over the long haul.  Abuse of Power is one of the more ugly allegations that can be levied against a sitting government official.  It is nothing to sneer at or ignore even if it has yet to be decided.  The allegation alone is enough to give pause and carefully rethink IMO.  

Roger doesn&#039;t want talk about this even though it goes to the heart of many men&#039;s issues so that&#039;s all I will say now.  I suggest you go online and read the ADN (Anchorage Daily News) web site especially for last June and July for more detailed info on this subject.  It wouldn&#039;t hurt to look up some Alaskan political blogs either.  The abuse of power charge was in play *before* McCain named her his VP pick.  The current investigation of her is not the result of that event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amofortas Said:  And she [Palin] likes men, marriage and motherhood, mmm, a good thing &#8211; evidenced by her family &#8211; and, quite unlike Biden who is still being bullied by his big sister, she seems to actually like her sister.</p>
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<p>Indeed Palin apparently does like her sister, Molly McCann probably more than is wise considering the problems it is causing her in Alaska right now.  </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;evidenced by her family&#8221; comment I&#8217;m guessing you haven&#8217;t heard about the family problems her little sister has regarding her own marriages, divorces and current custody battle.  Not exactly the makings of an *entirely* harmonious family life there.  Like any family there are always problems but to ignore Palin&#8217;s in regards to her little sister or to pretend such problems are of no consequence to men&#8217;s issues is to bury your head in the sand.  </p>
<p>It remains my opinion that a female politician who will inject herself into private family matters is not someone who will be good for men OR women over the long haul.  Abuse of Power is one of the more ugly allegations that can be levied against a sitting government official.  It is nothing to sneer at or ignore even if it has yet to be decided.  The allegation alone is enough to give pause and carefully rethink IMO.  </p>
<p>Roger doesn&#8217;t want talk about this even though it goes to the heart of many men&#8217;s issues so that&#8217;s all I will say now.  I suggest you go online and read the ADN (Anchorage Daily News) web site especially for last June and July for more detailed info on this subject.  It wouldn&#8217;t hurt to look up some Alaskan political blogs either.  The abuse of power charge was in play *before* McCain named her his VP pick.  The current investigation of her is not the result of that event.</p>
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		<title>By: perspicacious</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/24/mccains-running-mate/comment-page-1/#comment-65512</link>
		<dc:creator>perspicacious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to burst your bubble, Squiggy, but &quot;mr. perspicacious&quot; is a woman.  I&#039;m a registered Republican who voted for Republican presidents since 1976.  I&#039;m a middle aged white woman who was a single mother (properly married and later divorced) to a wonderful daughter now 30 years old.  Just in case it matters to you I wasn&#039;t pregnant before I was married.  

I was raised by a single mother in the 1960&#039;s after my father ran out.  She worked hard--no Welfare for us.  I followed her example when it came time for me to raise my daughter alone.  This was the very early 1980&#039;s...no big CS support system was in place then to back me.  I never gave it much thought.  My daughter was my responsibility and I met it.  

I am currently remarried to a man who was ground up and spit out of the current CS government mill via the efforts of his first wife.  The system was in place now to serve her every whim and it did. I stood by my husband through thick and thin for these 21 years and have never regretted it for a minute.  However, I learned a lot about socialist government (feminism is the Ladies Auxiliary of Socialism) in the process.  There is nothing comparable to first hand experience when it comes to learning.  

I have been a staunch anti-feminist since 1999 (thanks largely to the actions of Bill Clinton and I&#039;m not talking about Monica here).  I am not a liberal as you insist I am.  You obviously can&#039;t read minds very well.  

Claiming to be conservative and/or Republican and defending feminism it a contradiction in terms in my book--even when Republicans decide to run one for VP.  I have my principals and unlike Obama I&#039;m not for changing them.  I will not vote for a feminist.  Period.  I won&#039;t vote for Obama either so don&#039;t get your shorts all twisted again.  

Hope the facts don&#039;t take too much air out of your rant about me.  Maybe next time your mind reading attempts will produce better results.  Just don&#039;t quit your day job yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to burst your bubble, Squiggy, but &#8220;mr. perspicacious&#8221; is a woman.  I&#8217;m a registered Republican who voted for Republican presidents since 1976.  I&#8217;m a middle aged white woman who was a single mother (properly married and later divorced) to a wonderful daughter now 30 years old.  Just in case it matters to you I wasn&#8217;t pregnant before I was married.  </p>
<p>I was raised by a single mother in the 1960&#8217;s after my father ran out.  She worked hard&#8211;no Welfare for us.  I followed her example when it came time for me to raise my daughter alone.  This was the very early 1980&#8217;s&#8230;no big CS support system was in place then to back me.  I never gave it much thought.  My daughter was my responsibility and I met it.  </p>
<p>I am currently remarried to a man who was ground up and spit out of the current CS government mill via the efforts of his first wife.  The system was in place now to serve her every whim and it did. I stood by my husband through thick and thin for these 21 years and have never regretted it for a minute.  However, I learned a lot about socialist government (feminism is the Ladies Auxiliary of Socialism) in the process.  There is nothing comparable to first hand experience when it comes to learning.  </p>
<p>I have been a staunch anti-feminist since 1999 (thanks largely to the actions of Bill Clinton and I&#8217;m not talking about Monica here).  I am not a liberal as you insist I am.  You obviously can&#8217;t read minds very well.  </p>
<p>Claiming to be conservative and/or Republican and defending feminism it a contradiction in terms in my book&#8211;even when Republicans decide to run one for VP.  I have my principals and unlike Obama I&#8217;m not for changing them.  I will not vote for a feminist.  Period.  I won&#8217;t vote for Obama either so don&#8217;t get your shorts all twisted again.  </p>
<p>Hope the facts don&#8217;t take too much air out of your rant about me.  Maybe next time your mind reading attempts will produce better results.  Just don&#8217;t quit your day job yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/24/mccains-running-mate/comment-page-1/#comment-65448</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amfortas: I&#039;ve been living in Europe for years so maybe (although I don&#039;t know this for a fact) - maybe I&#039;m laughing much harder at your humor than Americans who&#039;ve never left home. I sound pretty durn American over here too. Some perspective - I think Sarah Palin sounds like a real person instead of a phony politician. She&#039;s a &quot;hockey mom&quot; you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amfortas: I&#8217;ve been living in Europe for years so maybe (although I don&#8217;t know this for a fact) &#8211; maybe I&#8217;m laughing much harder at your humor than Americans who&#8217;ve never left home. I sound pretty durn American over here too. Some perspective &#8211; I think Sarah Palin sounds like a real person instead of a phony politician. She&#8217;s a &#8220;hockey mom&#8221; you know.</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RFG is right, &quot;We havenâ€™t fully worked out Sarah Palin yet&quot;, and she deserves no lesser opportunity to show herself as any other candidate. No one has an empty cupboard these days, even if most of the skeletons are more fleshy than yesteryear. 

What I have seen gives some hope. Someone who has actually Governed something, somewhere, even if for a short time. Hey, that&#039;s new in this election. Obama and Biden between them haven&#039;t Governed a Kindergarten tea room. And she is unconfused about what colour she is, unlike Obama. Just so long as she doesn&#039;t declare herself a &#039;Pancake&#039; candidate. And she likes men, marriage and motherhood, mmm, a good thing - evidenced by her family - and, quite unlike Biden who is still being bullied by his big sister, she seems to actually like her sister.

As a durn Furriner - English speaking of course - I wince slightly whenever she opens her mouth. The &#039;sound&#039;. That high pitched, nasal, American Female skreeetch ubiquitous among sit-com wives. Somewhere just short of a police siren and a tad more than nails on a blackboard. Still, I suppose it is a sort of mating sound for American chaps and I am far away.

The voice might be useful for quelling Arab riots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RFG is right, &#8220;We havenâ€™t fully worked out Sarah Palin yet&#8221;, and she deserves no lesser opportunity to show herself as any other candidate. No one has an empty cupboard these days, even if most of the skeletons are more fleshy than yesteryear. </p>
<p>What I have seen gives some hope. Someone who has actually Governed something, somewhere, even if for a short time. Hey, that&#8217;s new in this election. Obama and Biden between them haven&#8217;t Governed a Kindergarten tea room. And she is unconfused about what colour she is, unlike Obama. Just so long as she doesn&#8217;t declare herself a &#8216;Pancake&#8217; candidate. And she likes men, marriage and motherhood, mmm, a good thing &#8211; evidenced by her family &#8211; and, quite unlike Biden who is still being bullied by his big sister, she seems to actually like her sister.</p>
<p>As a durn Furriner &#8211; English speaking of course &#8211; I wince slightly whenever she opens her mouth. The &#8217;sound&#8217;. That high pitched, nasal, American Female skreeetch ubiquitous among sit-com wives. Somewhere just short of a police siren and a tad more than nails on a blackboard. Still, I suppose it is a sort of mating sound for American chaps and I am far away.</p>
<p>The voice might be useful for quelling Arab riots.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/24/mccains-running-mate/comment-page-1/#comment-65443</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squiggy;  MND regularly critisizes both political parties and then some. If there appears to be bias here, I suspect it comes from the fact that Democrats are so darned proud of their hatred of the human race and the fundamentals that had defined the US as a free and democratic nation. Just as you think they seem about equal in the balance, Democrats jump up with signs screaming - NOT, IT&#039;S US MORE THAN THEM! Obama&#039;s choice of Joe Biden as his running mate goes a long way to continue that tradition.

We haven&#039;t fully worked out Sarah Palin yet, and we&#039;re not going to if we spend our time wondering about her sister and the custody battle. One little piece of wisdom we have here - bias against a father in court etc. does not require intervention from a local public official. It was there already, and the federal government spends billions per year to amplify it. I guess the smear campaigns by women in divorce are just for social reasons and trying to inflict psychological pain. They&#039;re going to get all they can in court anyway.

In any case - I think we should be looking at other things to get a better sense of who Sarah Palin is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squiggy;  MND regularly critisizes both political parties and then some. If there appears to be bias here, I suspect it comes from the fact that Democrats are so darned proud of their hatred of the human race and the fundamentals that had defined the US as a free and democratic nation. Just as you think they seem about equal in the balance, Democrats jump up with signs screaming &#8211; NOT, IT&#8217;S US MORE THAN THEM! Obama&#8217;s choice of Joe Biden as his running mate goes a long way to continue that tradition.</p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t fully worked out Sarah Palin yet, and we&#8217;re not going to if we spend our time wondering about her sister and the custody battle. One little piece of wisdom we have here &#8211; bias against a father in court etc. does not require intervention from a local public official. It was there already, and the federal government spends billions per year to amplify it. I guess the smear campaigns by women in divorce are just for social reasons and trying to inflict psychological pain. They&#8217;re going to get all they can in court anyway.</p>
<p>In any case &#8211; I think we should be looking at other things to get a better sense of who Sarah Palin is.</p>
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		<title>By: Squiggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squiggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Gay, I&#039;d give up if I were you.  Mr. &quot;perspicacious&quot; (def. &lt;i&gt;having keen mental perception and understanding&lt;/i&gt; - no lack of self-esteem there, eh?)is looking for any reason to dislike Mrs. Palin.  Whatever he claims to be he uses the same tactics as all libtards.  His mind was made up way before he ever started &quot;discussing&quot; things with us.

I&#039;d say, let him give himself a brain embolism if he so chooses.  Then we can go about doing our little part in getting someone elected who will actually do some good for the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Gay, I&#8217;d give up if I were you.  Mr. &#8220;perspicacious&#8221; (def. <i>having keen mental perception and understanding</i> &#8211; no lack of self-esteem there, eh?)is looking for any reason to dislike Mrs. Palin.  Whatever he claims to be he uses the same tactics as all libtards.  His mind was made up way before he ever started &#8220;discussing&#8221; things with us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say, let him give himself a brain embolism if he so chooses.  Then we can go about doing our little part in getting someone elected who will actually do some good for the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/24/mccains-running-mate/comment-page-1/#comment-65416</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MND is also running a NEWSWAX article (posted August 29) with background on Palin that includes background on the investigation and seems to give Wooten a break. I still can&#039;t write authoritatively on the taser incident (I wasn&#039;t there) - so here&#039;s another place where someone else deals with the facts.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/29/alaska-governor-sarah-palin-backgrounder/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alaska Governor Sarah Palin: Backgrounder&lt;/a&gt;

As for your search for abuse of power however, note that the article explains: â€œMonegan and other commissioners serve at will, meaning they can be fired by Palin at any time.â€ This means that Palin had the authority to fire Monegan - any time and for whatever reason. As a matter of law, her firing of Monegan cannot be considered abuse of power. So there is certainly an element of this aimed at public perceptions. Note also that the complaint was made by a political rival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MND is also running a NEWSWAX article (posted August 29) with background on Palin that includes background on the investigation and seems to give Wooten a break. I still can&#8217;t write authoritatively on the taser incident (I wasn&#8217;t there) &#8211; so here&#8217;s another place where someone else deals with the facts.</p>
<p><a href="http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/29/alaska-governor-sarah-palin-backgrounder/" rel="nofollow">Alaska Governor Sarah Palin: Backgrounder</a></p>
<p>As for your search for abuse of power however, note that the article explains: â€œMonegan and other commissioners serve at will, meaning they can be fired by Palin at any time.â€ This means that Palin had the authority to fire Monegan &#8211; any time and for whatever reason. As a matter of law, her firing of Monegan cannot be considered abuse of power. So there is certainly an element of this aimed at public perceptions. Note also that the complaint was made by a political rival.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/24/mccains-running-mate/comment-page-1/#comment-65414</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New link under Sex &amp; Metro:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mensnewsdaily.com/sexandmetro/2008/09/02/palin-hires-attorney-for-troopergate-investigation/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Palin hires attorney for Troopergate investigation&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New link under Sex &#038; Metro:</p>
<p><a href="http://mensnewsdaily.com/sexandmetro/2008/09/02/palin-hires-attorney-for-troopergate-investigation/#comments" rel="nofollow">Palin hires attorney for Troopergate investigation</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/24/mccains-running-mate/comment-page-1/#comment-65413</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said before, newspapers in Alaska will cover the investigation. If something of public interest comes out of it, you can expect a link to an article on it here at MND. We at present have nothing new to report and since we do not have investigative journalists in Alaska, I doubt MND will be able to break a story on this. There is nothing in currently available information that smacks of the abuse of power that you&#039;re trying to find. I think Warner Todd Huston&#039;s article on left-wing mud-slinging is appropriate for the moment. But of course - stay tuned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said before, newspapers in Alaska will cover the investigation. If something of public interest comes out of it, you can expect a link to an article on it here at MND. We at present have nothing new to report and since we do not have investigative journalists in Alaska, I doubt MND will be able to break a story on this. There is nothing in currently available information that smacks of the abuse of power that you&#8217;re trying to find. I think Warner Todd Huston&#8217;s article on left-wing mud-slinging is appropriate for the moment. But of course &#8211; stay tuned!</p>
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		<title>By: perspicacious</title>
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		<dc:creator>perspicacious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, I could ask you the same thing.  She isn&#039;t being investigated over this for no reason at all.  BTW, Palin is the one who alerted the investigators to the Frank Bailey tape.  Apparently she thought it was important, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, I could ask you the same thing.  She isn&#8217;t being investigated over this for no reason at all.  BTW, Palin is the one who alerted the investigators to the Frank Bailey tape.  Apparently she thought it was important, too.</p>
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		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/24/mccains-running-mate/comment-page-1/#comment-65394</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, just for you perspicacious, I went out and read another attack blog post against Palin. The author self-proclaimed objectivity - original disinterest - but was swayed by the evidence.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/211769.php

I listened to the audio - man, these people burn me up - wasting my time like that. The audio provided no evidence whatsoever of any wrong-doing by Gov. Palin or her staff - even the staff member on the phone. Why are you being fooled by this stuff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, just for you perspicacious, I went out and read another attack blog post against Palin. The author self-proclaimed objectivity &#8211; original disinterest &#8211; but was swayed by the evidence.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/211769.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/211769.php</a></p>
<p>I listened to the audio &#8211; man, these people burn me up &#8211; wasting my time like that. The audio provided no evidence whatsoever of any wrong-doing by Gov. Palin or her staff &#8211; even the staff member on the phone. Why are you being fooled by this stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I say, I don&#039;t see why it should be an issue for me. MND does not have the means to investigate individual cases. I have rarely written about individual cases and have never gotten involved in the he-said, she-said aspects of them. I don&#039;t have a writer&#039;s budget to investigate all the behaviors you&#039;re discussing. Wooten has done some things that do not cause me to feel empathy. By his own admissions, he has been a danger to others including a child in his care. Somebody should have been doing something. I&#039;m not disappointed that he was fired.

This will be covered by Alaska&#039;s newspapers along with the investigation that&#039;s underway. If something of public interest emerges, it will be appropriate to have a link here. But we don&#039;t have any investigative journalists in Alaska who could do any better than the local papers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I say, I don&#8217;t see why it should be an issue for me. MND does not have the means to investigate individual cases. I have rarely written about individual cases and have never gotten involved in the he-said, she-said aspects of them. I don&#8217;t have a writer&#8217;s budget to investigate all the behaviors you&#8217;re discussing. Wooten has done some things that do not cause me to feel empathy. By his own admissions, he has been a danger to others including a child in his care. Somebody should have been doing something. I&#8217;m not disappointed that he was fired.</p>
<p>This will be covered by Alaska&#8217;s newspapers along with the investigation that&#8217;s underway. If something of public interest emerges, it will be appropriate to have a link here. But we don&#8217;t have any investigative journalists in Alaska who could do any better than the local papers.</p>
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		<title>By: perspicacious</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when are court records &quot;gossip&quot;?  Whether he tasered his stepson (he did, admitted it, and was punished) is not the issue at hand.  

The issue is did Sarah Palin abuse her power in trying to have Mike Wooten fired for personal family reasons?  Did Sarah Palin abuse her power when she fired Walter Monegan because he wouldn&#039;t fire Mike Wooten?  

She is being investigated as we speak.  If all of this is &quot;gossip&quot; why is the State of Alaska funding $100,000 to investigate her?  Why is the Alaska AG also investigating her?  I sense there is a lot more than mere over the fence &quot;gossip&quot; involved here.  

The investigation and punishment of Wooten has already been done for the taser incident and the moose incident and is now a closed matter legally speaking.  How long and how many times should he be tried for the same crime in your opinion?  

Then there is the issue of how Wooten&#039;s personnel file from the State Troopers&#039; office wound up in the hands of Molly McCann and her attorney.  That is yet another issue Palin is under investigation about.  

Really would you defend any other woman or family who went this far in a family court matter the way you are stepping up to the bat for Palin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when are court records &#8220;gossip&#8221;?  Whether he tasered his stepson (he did, admitted it, and was punished) is not the issue at hand.  </p>
<p>The issue is did Sarah Palin abuse her power in trying to have Mike Wooten fired for personal family reasons?  Did Sarah Palin abuse her power when she fired Walter Monegan because he wouldn&#8217;t fire Mike Wooten?  </p>
<p>She is being investigated as we speak.  If all of this is &#8220;gossip&#8221; why is the State of Alaska funding $100,000 to investigate her?  Why is the Alaska AG also investigating her?  I sense there is a lot more than mere over the fence &#8220;gossip&#8221; involved here.  </p>
<p>The investigation and punishment of Wooten has already been done for the taser incident and the moose incident and is now a closed matter legally speaking.  How long and how many times should he be tried for the same crime in your opinion?  </p>
<p>Then there is the issue of how Wooten&#8217;s personnel file from the State Troopers&#8217; office wound up in the hands of Molly McCann and her attorney.  That is yet another issue Palin is under investigation about.  </p>
<p>Really would you defend any other woman or family who went this far in a family court matter the way you are stepping up to the bat for Palin?</p>
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		<title>By: perspicacious</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monegan was an effective employee who received nothing but praise for the way he was conducting his job prior to his firing.  He had never been counseled or admonished by Palin or any other official prior to his firing.  In fact, he was called to the governors office to discuss an upcoming law enforcement picnic or so he was told.  When he got to the office he found out differently and was surprised to be fired.  Palin was out of town.  That is either smart on her part or stupid depending how this eventually plays out.  She had a staffer give Monegan his pink slip.  

Monegan remained silent on the subject for some weeks.  Only after the word came out in the press about how and why he was fired did he speak up publicly at all and what he has said is limited and hasn&#039;t been vindictive in nature.  

To blame Monegan (basically an innocent third party accidentally caught up in Molly McCann&#039;s personal woes in family court) for the loss of his job is specious and irresponsible.  If you&#039;re going to comment on this entire unsavory subject in a responsible manner I suggest you first do your homework in full (even if you find it difficult or boring) rather than toss out chivalrous remarks that favor Sarah Palin -- remarks that may or may not be appropriate so far as you know at this time.  JMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monegan was an effective employee who received nothing but praise for the way he was conducting his job prior to his firing.  He had never been counseled or admonished by Palin or any other official prior to his firing.  In fact, he was called to the governors office to discuss an upcoming law enforcement picnic or so he was told.  When he got to the office he found out differently and was surprised to be fired.  Palin was out of town.  That is either smart on her part or stupid depending how this eventually plays out.  She had a staffer give Monegan his pink slip.  </p>
<p>Monegan remained silent on the subject for some weeks.  Only after the word came out in the press about how and why he was fired did he speak up publicly at all and what he has said is limited and hasn&#8217;t been vindictive in nature.  </p>
<p>To blame Monegan (basically an innocent third party accidentally caught up in Molly McCann&#8217;s personal woes in family court) for the loss of his job is specious and irresponsible.  If you&#8217;re going to comment on this entire unsavory subject in a responsible manner I suggest you first do your homework in full (even if you find it difficult or boring) rather than toss out chivalrous remarks that favor Sarah Palin &#8212; remarks that may or may not be appropriate so far as you know at this time.  JMO.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ok with me that MND articles highlight the problem generally. But we don&#039;t have the means to investigate individual cases and no one here should spread any rumor that happens to circulate. As for Wooten - he&#039;s admitted tasing his step-son. If I were going to stand up for a guy against the system, I would stand up for the kid&#039;s father for beating the crap out of Wooten with a tire iron. Wooten belongs in jail, not working as a policeman. A guy like that should be stalked by investigators. Too bad the police force couldn&#039;t be trusted with the job. He also admits threatening his ex&#039;s father - with a gun as I understand it. Amazing he skipped jail on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ok with me that MND articles highlight the problem generally. But we don&#8217;t have the means to investigate individual cases and no one here should spread any rumor that happens to circulate. As for Wooten &#8211; he&#8217;s admitted tasing his step-son. If I were going to stand up for a guy against the system, I would stand up for the kid&#8217;s father for beating the crap out of Wooten with a tire iron. Wooten belongs in jail, not working as a policeman. A guy like that should be stalked by investigators. Too bad the police force couldn&#8217;t be trusted with the job. He also admits threatening his ex&#8217;s father &#8211; with a gun as I understand it. Amazing he skipped jail on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: perspicacious</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/24/mccains-running-mate/comment-page-1/#comment-65383</link>
		<dc:creator>perspicacious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monegan didn&#039;t fire Wooten for two reasons the first which is so obvious I don&#039;t understand why the Palin&#039;s missed it.  State Troopers are unionized.  Nobody can just up and fire a trooper without going through the union&#039;s disciplinary process.  I know, I was in a union for years.  

The other reason Monegan didn&#039;t fire Wooten was because he had no substantiated reason why Wooten deserved to be punished.  Wooten admitted to the taser gun incident and was disciplined properly by the union.  

Ditto for the moose incident which BTW Palin&#039;s father butchered that same illegal moose in his own garage knowing the full circumstances of how that moose was killed.  Wooten shared the meat from that moose with the extended Heath (Palin&#039;s maiden name) and Palin families who all ate that moose.  The Palins didn&#039;t bother to report Wooten for the illegal shooting of that moose until well after they&#039;d finished eating the meat from that moose and after the family court issues had started some time later.  

In family court and with the State Troopers&#039; office Wooten was absolved of the approximately 40 or more claims the Heath&#039;s and Palins made against Wooten.  The Palins and Heath&#039;s were the *only* people to make complaints about Wooten.  All but the two above incidents were found to be unsubstantiated or just plain false accusations.  

This doesn&#039;t even include the private investigators Todd and Sarah Palin personally hired to follow Wooten or the  notes (contents of which haven&#039;t yet been revealed) that Todd Palin repeatedly left on Wooten&#039;s windshield.  Todd Palin also followed (stalked?) Wooten on a regular basis taking pictures of Wooten and often of his two young children as well, apparently in some sort of attempt to prove Wooten was guilty of wrong doing.  Apparently those photo attempts never panned out either the way the Palins hoped they would.  

Again Molly McCann (Palin&#039;s sister) was admonished by the family court judge in 2005 that if Wooten lost his job the judge would hold Molly and her family accountable.  That is an unusual comment from a family court judge and it obviously shows that rendering Mike Wooten jobless to give him less leverage in the custody disputes in family court was the goal of the actions already mentioned on the part of McCann and the Palins.  Most likely it was also the first step in making him unable to keep up with child support which would probably lead to his eventually being jailed.  

In any event, distasteful as I find it, Wooten&#039;s behavior in the taser incident was a matter for his union, law officials, and the family court or other judiciary system to handle.  It was not a matter routinely handled by a  Governor&#039;s office and Palin had no business inserting herself into the issue using her office to do so (that is, engaging or asking others to engage in overt or covert attempts to have Wooten fired).  THAT is the abuse of power issue.  

Another problem haunting Palin to date is her firing Monegan and not being accountable to her constituents as to her reason for the firing even after being repeatedly asked for a detailed explanation.  Yes, Monegan was an employee who served at the governor&#039;s will but he was still taxpayer paid.  Palin still has a responsibility to those same taxpayers when they question actions she has taken.  

Now, can you make a valid argument for why any of Palin&#039;s and her husband&#039;s behavior in this matter is acceptable, proper, or even above board?   Also, what about Frank Bailey&#039;s phone call to the Alaska State Troopers&#039; office?  Do you have anything to counter what I relayed about that incident?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monegan didn&#8217;t fire Wooten for two reasons the first which is so obvious I don&#8217;t understand why the Palin&#8217;s missed it.  State Troopers are unionized.  Nobody can just up and fire a trooper without going through the union&#8217;s disciplinary process.  I know, I was in a union for years.  </p>
<p>The other reason Monegan didn&#8217;t fire Wooten was because he had no substantiated reason why Wooten deserved to be punished.  Wooten admitted to the taser gun incident and was disciplined properly by the union.  </p>
<p>Ditto for the moose incident which BTW Palin&#8217;s father butchered that same illegal moose in his own garage knowing the full circumstances of how that moose was killed.  Wooten shared the meat from that moose with the extended Heath (Palin&#8217;s maiden name) and Palin families who all ate that moose.  The Palins didn&#8217;t bother to report Wooten for the illegal shooting of that moose until well after they&#8217;d finished eating the meat from that moose and after the family court issues had started some time later.  </p>
<p>In family court and with the State Troopers&#8217; office Wooten was absolved of the approximately 40 or more claims the Heath&#8217;s and Palins made against Wooten.  The Palins and Heath&#8217;s were the *only* people to make complaints about Wooten.  All but the two above incidents were found to be unsubstantiated or just plain false accusations.  </p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t even include the private investigators Todd and Sarah Palin personally hired to follow Wooten or the  notes (contents of which haven&#8217;t yet been revealed) that Todd Palin repeatedly left on Wooten&#8217;s windshield.  Todd Palin also followed (stalked?) Wooten on a regular basis taking pictures of Wooten and often of his two young children as well, apparently in some sort of attempt to prove Wooten was guilty of wrong doing.  Apparently those photo attempts never panned out either the way the Palins hoped they would.  </p>
<p>Again Molly McCann (Palin&#8217;s sister) was admonished by the family court judge in 2005 that if Wooten lost his job the judge would hold Molly and her family accountable.  That is an unusual comment from a family court judge and it obviously shows that rendering Mike Wooten jobless to give him less leverage in the custody disputes in family court was the goal of the actions already mentioned on the part of McCann and the Palins.  Most likely it was also the first step in making him unable to keep up with child support which would probably lead to his eventually being jailed.  </p>
<p>In any event, distasteful as I find it, Wooten&#8217;s behavior in the taser incident was a matter for his union, law officials, and the family court or other judiciary system to handle.  It was not a matter routinely handled by a  Governor&#8217;s office and Palin had no business inserting herself into the issue using her office to do so (that is, engaging or asking others to engage in overt or covert attempts to have Wooten fired).  THAT is the abuse of power issue.  </p>
<p>Another problem haunting Palin to date is her firing Monegan and not being accountable to her constituents as to her reason for the firing even after being repeatedly asked for a detailed explanation.  Yes, Monegan was an employee who served at the governor&#8217;s will but he was still taxpayer paid.  Palin still has a responsibility to those same taxpayers when they question actions she has taken.  </p>
<p>Now, can you make a valid argument for why any of Palin&#8217;s and her husband&#8217;s behavior in this matter is acceptable, proper, or even above board?   Also, what about Frank Bailey&#8217;s phone call to the Alaska State Troopers&#8217; office?  Do you have anything to counter what I relayed about that incident?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why didn&#039;t Monegan fire Wooten?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2651820/Sarah-Palin-poses-Troopergate-risk-to-John-McCains-US-election-bid.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;An internal trooper investigation had found Mr Wooten guilty of several infractions - using a Taser stun gun on his stepson, drinking on duty, threatening his then father-in-law and shooting a moose without a permit, the Anchorage Daily News reported yesterday.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why didn&#8217;t Monegan fire Wooten?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2651820/Sarah-Palin-poses-Troopergate-risk-to-John-McCains-US-election-bid.html" rel="nofollow">An internal trooper investigation had found Mr Wooten guilty of several infractions &#8211; using a Taser stun gun on his stepson, drinking on duty, threatening his then father-in-law and shooting a moose without a permit, the Anchorage Daily News reported yesterday.</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perspicacious: To be honest, I&#039;m not going to go to work trying to find the things you suggest, or counter-finds, before responding to each post. I&#039;ve been out there once and looked, and have given my impression. If I&#039;m not mistaken, Monegan must be the guy who said he &quot;felt&quot; pressured by questions he was asked? I&#039;d have fired him for that - but if he&#039;d already been fired, then could be he&#039;s using his feelings as payback. Is it just me? If George Bush fired James Hansen, I wouldn&#039;t think it a scandal - I&#039;d think, it&#039;s about time!

Some guy saying &quot;Sarah and Tod can&#039;t understand ...&quot; is not evidence of anything ... not even if the guy said it three times. If Monegan was fired, then he had to be replaced by someone ... can&#039;t say that I&#039;m familiar with the hiring practice of who Monegan reported to, etc. But still ... someone had to get the job. It&#039;s my belief that Palin went through a very serious, in-depth, vetting process before being named as McCain&#039;s running mate - so, look for this being a false trail - one that will embarrass Democrats if they get heavy with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perspicacious: To be honest, I&#8217;m not going to go to work trying to find the things you suggest, or counter-finds, before responding to each post. I&#8217;ve been out there once and looked, and have given my impression. If I&#8217;m not mistaken, Monegan must be the guy who said he &#8220;felt&#8221; pressured by questions he was asked? I&#8217;d have fired him for that &#8211; but if he&#8217;d already been fired, then could be he&#8217;s using his feelings as payback. Is it just me? If George Bush fired James Hansen, I wouldn&#8217;t think it a scandal &#8211; I&#8217;d think, it&#8217;s about time!</p>
<p>Some guy saying &#8220;Sarah and Tod can&#8217;t understand &#8230;&#8221; is not evidence of anything &#8230; not even if the guy said it three times. If Monegan was fired, then he had to be replaced by someone &#8230; can&#8217;t say that I&#8217;m familiar with the hiring practice of who Monegan reported to, etc. But still &#8230; someone had to get the job. It&#8217;s my belief that Palin went through a very serious, in-depth, vetting process before being named as McCain&#8217;s running mate &#8211; so, look for this being a false trail &#8211; one that will embarrass Democrats if they get heavy with it.</p>
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