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		<title>By: 1brokemum</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/09/24/dead-broke-dads-and-the-challenges-to-parenting/comment-page-1/#comment-70356</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I say we are Dead Broke we are freakin DEAD BROKE!!  We do not own a home and probably never will, we share one vechile, we cannot afford anything, have no cell phone, or cable t.v, and have to rely on PayDay Loans to get by!!! What&#039;s funny is AZ state see&#039;s us at the poverty level because of what he pays out to child support, I have to get WIC checks for our two childrens nutrional needs because we can&#039;t affford to, HOWEVER; this ungodly and pompous shmucks in Pinal Co think otherwise!! SO YES, I KNOW EXACTLY ABOUT THE FINANCIAL HELL YOU OTHER MEN ARE TALKING ABOUT, I&#039;m living in it too!!! --- I try to look at it this way, being a bible reader I know God&#039;s disgust with judges SO if he doesn&#039;t get these slimy scum, KARMA will!                              
yes, I messed up my user name, it&#039;s 1 am, I&#039;m tired, and stressed, and mad as hell, what do you expect? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I say we are Dead Broke we are freakin DEAD BROKE!!  We do not own a home and probably never will, we share one vechile, we cannot afford anything, have no cell phone, or cable t.v, and have to rely on PayDay Loans to get by!!! What&#039;s funny is AZ state see&#039;s us at the poverty level because of what he pays out to child support, I have to get WIC checks for our two childrens nutrional needs because we can&#039;t affford to, HOWEVER; this ungodly and pompous shmucks in Pinal Co think otherwise!! SO YES, I KNOW EXACTLY ABOUT THE FINANCIAL HELL YOU OTHER MEN ARE TALKING ABOUT, I&#039;m living in it too!!! &#8212; I try to look at it this way, being a bible reader I know God&#039;s disgust with judges SO if he doesn&#039;t get these slimy scum, KARMA will!<br />
yes, I messed up my user name, it&#039;s 1 am, I&#039;m tired, and stressed, and mad as hell, what do you expect?</p>
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		<title>By: 1busymum</title>
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		<dc:creator>1busymum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He also, got stuck paying her attorney&#039;s fees EVEN THOUGH, their agreement states they would separately pay!! And now this trolls atty. who is also another man hating lying troll (E. Parks, beaware men) is trying to tell the court that even though she was awarded atty. fees to be paid by my husband, she want&#039;s my husband to make payments directly to his ex troll of a exwife. I believe this also to be illegal. This atty, lied on the stand and in her submitted paper work several times, and needs to be disbarred from law!!   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He also, got stuck paying her attorney&#039;s fees EVEN THOUGH, their agreement states they would separately pay!! And now this trolls atty. who is also another man hating lying troll (E. Parks, beaware men) is trying to tell the court that even though she was awarded atty. fees to be paid by my husband, she want&#039;s my husband to make payments directly to his ex troll of a exwife. I believe this also to be illegal. This atty, lied on the stand and in her submitted paper work several times, and needs to be disbarred from law!!</p>
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		<title>By: 1busymum</title>
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		<dc:creator>1busymum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are DEAD BROKE, he got his $200 per month truck reposessed, had to take a lower paying job, and the courts STILL refused to lower his child support to this troll!! He is now in arrears because employers can&#039;t take more than 50% of your income, and he doesn&#039;t make freakin enough to pay this excessive child support amount to his ex wife. I hate this woman, on top of this, she stole thousands of dollars when they split, forged his name on that check including his IRS tax papers, AND he was an idiot and believed they would split the dependents each year because being a single troll she would get a bigger return! He believed, she&#039;s full of shit, hasn&#039;t seen a dime of it, and she lies and denies it! Did I mention she does not work? No, she doesn&#039;t, but she files a return every year, go figure how she gets away with this???  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are DEAD BROKE, he got his $200 per month truck reposessed, had to take a lower paying job, and the courts STILL refused to lower his child support to this troll!! He is now in arrears because employers can&#039;t take more than 50% of your income, and he doesn&#039;t make freakin enough to pay this excessive child support amount to his ex wife. I hate this woman, on top of this, she stole thousands of dollars when they split, forged his name on that check including his IRS tax papers, AND he was an idiot and believed they would split the dependents each year because being a single troll she would get a bigger return! He believed, she&#039;s full of shit, hasn&#039;t seen a dime of it, and she lies and denies it! Did I mention she does not work? No, she doesn&#039;t, but she files a return every year, go figure how she gets away with this???</p>
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		<title>By: 1brokemum</title>
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		<dc:creator>1brokemum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I KNOW MEN GET THE SHIT FROM COURTS, IT IS NOT FAIR AND I HAVE SEEN IT---- A WOMAN HAS THE OPTION TO ABORT, PUT UP FOR ADOPTION, OR KEEP IT, AND WHEN SHE DOES THAT YOU&#039;RE SCREWED!!! My husband also pays for an additional child, this woman was freakin married, still married, the kid has her husbands last name, he gave up his PARENTAL RIGHTS and he has to pay for this one too!! This is one broken hearted older affair stalking troll who makes more than my husband, AND GUESS WHAT? If you work in AZ and make more than the man, YOU MEN GET SCREWED AGAIN, PAYING MORE!! We have had motion after motion DENIED with his ex wife, in Pinal Co. who by the way, any man reading this living here, GET THE HELL OUT OF AZ, YOU WILL GET SCREWED BY THE JUDGES HERE!! AND ANY VOTERS FROM HERE STOP REELECTING THEM! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I KNOW MEN GET THE SHIT FROM COURTS, IT IS NOT FAIR AND I HAVE SEEN IT&#8212;- A WOMAN HAS THE OPTION TO ABORT, PUT UP FOR ADOPTION, OR KEEP IT, AND WHEN SHE DOES THAT YOU&#039;RE SCREWED!!! My husband also pays for an additional child, this woman was freakin married, still married, the kid has her husbands last name, he gave up his PARENTAL RIGHTS and he has to pay for this one too!! This is one broken hearted older affair stalking troll who makes more than my husband, AND GUESS WHAT? If you work in AZ and make more than the man, YOU MEN GET SCREWED AGAIN, PAYING MORE!! We have had motion after motion DENIED with his ex wife, in Pinal Co. who by the way, any man reading this living here, GET THE HELL OUT OF AZ, YOU WILL GET SCREWED BY THE JUDGES HERE!! AND ANY VOTERS FROM HERE STOP REELECTING THEM!</p>
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		<title>By: 1brokemum</title>
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		<dc:creator>1brokemum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been searching for help, came across this! I have been divorced and now married to a wonderful man, same state (AZ) with both. I have to say how f----sick I am that there are so many man hating JUDGES in AZ (Pinal Co.)who get away with not following the laws! There is no boss for these shmucks to have to let on what they did or didn&#039;t do right for each case they saw! My ex pays the states amount, HOWEVER; my husband has to pay his lying troll of an ex wife DOUBLE the states required amount for child support, and he makes less than my ex!! The courts have refused to follow AZ law and count are two children, on top of this excessive amount she gets freakin alimony!! My husband was actually told THAT HE HAD NO RIGHT TO REMARRY AND HAVE OTHER CHILDREN!!, nevermind this little troll has been living with her boyfriend for the past two years!!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been searching for help, came across this! I have been divorced and now married to a wonderful man, same state (AZ) with both. I have to say how f&#8212;-sick I am that there are so many man hating JUDGES in AZ (Pinal Co.)who get away with not following the laws! There is no boss for these shmucks to have to let on what they did or didn&#039;t do right for each case they saw! My ex pays the states amount, HOWEVER; my husband has to pay his lying troll of an ex wife DOUBLE the states required amount for child support, and he makes less than my ex!! The courts have refused to follow AZ law and count are two children, on top of this excessive amount she gets freakin alimony!! My husband was actually told THAT HE HAD NO RIGHT TO REMARRY AND HAVE OTHER CHILDREN!!, nevermind this little troll has been living with her boyfriend for the past two years!!</p>
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		<title>By: deegallagher</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Filly, I too, am a single female who has raised my children.  I too, delt with divorces and financial situations where the children were put first. As the grandmother, in the current family court, I feel it is all ridiculous.  The judges, their attitudes, the attorneys, etc.  Their aren&#039;t any rights.  So we teach our children to beware and be the first to file. Otherwise, you are the condemned.  No rights, guilty even when proven innocent, and on the defensive.  Ultimately, what should we tell our children.  Throw in the towel.  These attorneys,judges, and their whole system don&#039;t have any rules.  The judge can even decide whether you should get a public defender or not.  This is ridiculous.  Internet savvy women are the rulers....  This didn&#039;t happen when women had morals,ethics, and were intent on proving that we had the strength to raise our family, support them, and take responsibility for bringing them into this world.  Father&#039;s want to be part of their children&#039;s lives. No, All woman are not out their looking for a life long support check.  But these days, most are and the current family support system works for them 100%.  These judges and lawyers should not be able to sleep at night.  But I&#039;m sure they sleep fine with a nice bank account to boot.  That&#039;s why they choose family court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Filly, I too, am a single female who has raised my children.  I too, delt with divorces and financial situations where the children were put first. As the grandmother, in the current family court, I feel it is all ridiculous.  The judges, their attitudes, the attorneys, etc.  Their aren&#8217;t any rights.  So we teach our children to beware and be the first to file. Otherwise, you are the condemned.  No rights, guilty even when proven innocent, and on the defensive.  Ultimately, what should we tell our children.  Throw in the towel.  These attorneys,judges, and their whole system don&#8217;t have any rules.  The judge can even decide whether you should get a public defender or not.  This is ridiculous.  Internet savvy women are the rulers&#8230;.  This didn&#8217;t happen when women had morals,ethics, and were intent on proving that we had the strength to raise our family, support them, and take responsibility for bringing them into this world.  Father&#8217;s want to be part of their children&#8217;s lives. No, All woman are not out their looking for a life long support check.  But these days, most are and the current family support system works for them 100%.  These judges and lawyers should not be able to sleep at night.  But I&#8217;m sure they sleep fine with a nice bank account to boot.  That&#8217;s why they choose family court.</p>
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		<title>By: Filly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Guys, I been reading the posts and just so you know NOT all women are the same. For instance, my ex and I we do not do the who owes who. When he has the kids he pays me NOTHING we have 2 children together when they are in my care he gives me 50.00 a wk just to help where I fall short. At the end of the year he claims the kids on taxes and He pays me up for about 4 months to give himself a break. It works for us. He is not on a visitation schedule all he has to do is come get them or we meet halfway, mostly bc of his schedule I do not see well at night. Yes in the beginning we had the whole scorned lovers quarrel but not once did we hold the kids over eachother&#039;s head. I guess because I did not want my kids to hate me in the end over money. And yes the kids will know you tried they are smarter than what the vindictive mothers think. Which is what my new boyfriend and I are facing. We recently ran into some hard luck where the company let go of lots of people. And well you all know downsizing is just a pretty word for FIRED. So I myself have been struggling to keep his payments afloat and the daily bills as he goes on interview after interview. So although I am not ordered to pay I get the idea behind what you say. Which I call my ex every week and ask if he is sure he can do it. Because I know it is hard. My kids know that mom don&#039;t have alot of money but they also see their friends do not get time with their dad if he does not pay. So they know that they will never have that as an issue.
But as of August I have not been able to get my bf now his ex her CS. They will not revise his payment, and they are basing it on a job he had 3 years ago. So guys have any advice? I see how everyone else had such a nasty divorce and I thank God that even though it had to happen we worked our out on our own. Even shared the same lawyer, but my bf&#039;s ex even when he has visitation she calls the cops saying he kidnapped her. And as the finalization of the divorce gets closer she gets nastier and nastier more and more money. Before anyone asks we got together about a year after they seperated not during them being together. So yeah I know that it is because he moved on and she didn&#039;t but she left. She chose to leave, so now my bf has to sell his home she gets 1/2 the profit which at this point there wont be one because I can
not keep up his mortgage and she is trying to get 1/2 of an income tax that he never got a refund on. He proved he had to pay in but she continues. ANyone know what he can do? She has asked the court to give him 6 months basically because he is broke. when this money grubber nets over 1000 a week</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Guys, I been reading the posts and just so you know NOT all women are the same. For instance, my ex and I we do not do the who owes who. When he has the kids he pays me NOTHING we have 2 children together when they are in my care he gives me 50.00 a wk just to help where I fall short. At the end of the year he claims the kids on taxes and He pays me up for about 4 months to give himself a break. It works for us. He is not on a visitation schedule all he has to do is come get them or we meet halfway, mostly bc of his schedule I do not see well at night. Yes in the beginning we had the whole scorned lovers quarrel but not once did we hold the kids over eachother&#8217;s head. I guess because I did not want my kids to hate me in the end over money. And yes the kids will know you tried they are smarter than what the vindictive mothers think. Which is what my new boyfriend and I are facing. We recently ran into some hard luck where the company let go of lots of people. And well you all know downsizing is just a pretty word for FIRED. So I myself have been struggling to keep his payments afloat and the daily bills as he goes on interview after interview. So although I am not ordered to pay I get the idea behind what you say. Which I call my ex every week and ask if he is sure he can do it. Because I know it is hard. My kids know that mom don&#8217;t have alot of money but they also see their friends do not get time with their dad if he does not pay. So they know that they will never have that as an issue.<br />
But as of August I have not been able to get my bf now his ex her CS. They will not revise his payment, and they are basing it on a job he had 3 years ago. So guys have any advice? I see how everyone else had such a nasty divorce and I thank God that even though it had to happen we worked our out on our own. Even shared the same lawyer, but my bf&#8217;s ex even when he has visitation she calls the cops saying he kidnapped her. And as the finalization of the divorce gets closer she gets nastier and nastier more and more money. Before anyone asks we got together about a year after they seperated not during them being together. So yeah I know that it is because he moved on and she didn&#8217;t but she left. She chose to leave, so now my bf has to sell his home she gets 1/2 the profit which at this point there wont be one because I can<br />
not keep up his mortgage and she is trying to get 1/2 of an income tax that he never got a refund on. He proved he had to pay in but she continues. ANyone know what he can do? She has asked the court to give him 6 months basically because he is broke. when this money grubber nets over 1000 a week</p>
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		<title>By: anti armchair generals</title>
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		<dc:creator>anti armchair generals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corredtion to Womens College Coalition link (post 10)
http://www.womenscolleges.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corredtion to Womens College Coalition link (post 10)<br />
<a href="http://www.womenscolleges.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.womenscolleges.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: merck</title>
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		<dc:creator>merck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deegallagher:

Iâ€™m sure you understand that this is a widespread problem involving millions of families from coast to coast. 

No one will receive justice, (nor should they accept any compromise aimed at subduing resistance) until this criminal enterprise we call the Family Court is abolished. They have overstepped their authority to the point where abolition of the court is really the only appropriate response by the people. 

As far as your son being a deadbeat parent, this is my perspective â€¦ 


What exactly is a *deadbeat parent*?

Is a deadbeat parent someone who stops paying so-called child support because they cannot, in good conscience, continue to pay the unwarranted court imposed financial obligation?  
                                            
Is it someone who refuses to pay because they are systematically denied equal custody of their children?
 
Is it someone who refuses to pay what amounts to extortion in order to *visit* their children twice a month â€¦ someone who has the self-respect to reject the role as *visitor* to their children? 

Is it someone whose arrears skyrocket because the amount awarded is extortionate?

Is it someone who refuses to pay because *he* is denied the equal protection of our laws when it comes to decisions about parenting â€¦ someone who was ordered to pay as a result of a blood test, or DNA test, and was denied any other option? 

Is it someone who refuses to pay the extortion because *he* is a victim of paternity fraud?

Of course not â€¦ we should all know better than that.  

The *deadbeat* is the parent who pays the so-called child support â€¦ which enables the courts to continue kidnapping millions of children from one of their parents â€¦ in order to extort hundreds of billions from them and the duped taxpayer.

The *deadbeat* is the parent who pays the so-called child support â€¦ knowing that the courts are violating their inalienable, constitutionally protected rights â€¦ knowing that their thoughtless actions put all Americans at risk for loss of liberty. 
   
The *deadbeat* is the parent who values their paycheck, and their driverâ€™s license, more than their own children, and the future of our country. 
                  
The *deadbeat* is the parent who does not have the courage to *do the right thing* for fear of incarceration.   
                          
The *deadbeat* is the parent who would rather pay the extortion than accept an equal role in raising their children.
 
The *deadbeat* is the parent who by paying the so-called child support insures that their children will be the next victims of this injustice.
 
Certainly, any *reasonable person* would agree with these facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deegallagher:</p>
<p>Iâ€™m sure you understand that this is a widespread problem involving millions of families from coast to coast. </p>
<p>No one will receive justice, (nor should they accept any compromise aimed at subduing resistance) until this criminal enterprise we call the Family Court is abolished. They have overstepped their authority to the point where abolition of the court is really the only appropriate response by the people. </p>
<p>As far as your son being a deadbeat parent, this is my perspective â€¦ </p>
<p>What exactly is a *deadbeat parent*?</p>
<p>Is a deadbeat parent someone who stops paying so-called child support because they cannot, in good conscience, continue to pay the unwarranted court imposed financial obligation?  </p>
<p>Is it someone who refuses to pay because they are systematically denied equal custody of their children?</p>
<p>Is it someone who refuses to pay what amounts to extortion in order to *visit* their children twice a month â€¦ someone who has the self-respect to reject the role as *visitor* to their children? </p>
<p>Is it someone whose arrears skyrocket because the amount awarded is extortionate?</p>
<p>Is it someone who refuses to pay because *he* is denied the equal protection of our laws when it comes to decisions about parenting â€¦ someone who was ordered to pay as a result of a blood test, or DNA test, and was denied any other option? </p>
<p>Is it someone who refuses to pay the extortion because *he* is a victim of paternity fraud?</p>
<p>Of course not â€¦ we should all know better than that.  </p>
<p>The *deadbeat* is the parent who pays the so-called child support â€¦ which enables the courts to continue kidnapping millions of children from one of their parents â€¦ in order to extort hundreds of billions from them and the duped taxpayer.</p>
<p>The *deadbeat* is the parent who pays the so-called child support â€¦ knowing that the courts are violating their inalienable, constitutionally protected rights â€¦ knowing that their thoughtless actions put all Americans at risk for loss of liberty. </p>
<p>The *deadbeat* is the parent who values their paycheck, and their driverâ€™s license, more than their own children, and the future of our country. </p>
<p>The *deadbeat* is the parent who does not have the courage to *do the right thing* for fear of incarceration.   </p>
<p>The *deadbeat* is the parent who would rather pay the extortion than accept an equal role in raising their children.</p>
<p>The *deadbeat* is the parent who by paying the so-called child support insures that their children will be the next victims of this injustice.</p>
<p>Certainly, any *reasonable person* would agree with these facts.</p>
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		<title>By: deegallagher</title>
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		<dc:creator>deegallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dead Broke &amp; Beaten not Deadbeat.

Abuse websites and information available on the internet ise directed at women. They provide a blue print for how to use the system and what to say in court for the enormouse number of women who abuse men (our sons).

In court, these women have all the right statements rehearsed off the the outline. There is the characteristics of the abused victim, different types of abuse, cycle of abuse, and then there is the blueprint for describing parental alienation.  They have a script, a journal (to refresh their memory) and occassionally tears.  

These women don&#039;t care about the emotional impact on their children. They request supervised visitation to negotiate for minimum custody. Less custody insures more support and is used like blackmail.

Why doesn&#039;t this crummy family law system stop the charade of justice. They might as well gather all these poor, financally and emotionally beaten-down fathers into the pits and force them to work day &amp; night on oil, salt, or rock. Feed them bread &amp; water or nothing till they drop and give split their wages between the black widows they married. When they drop put them in jail for lack of earnings. Sound like a familiar historical scene. No rights, no justice, and certainly no help. 

These men are struggling to keep a small roof over their head, find work, spend time with their children that the court allows and pay the support. These women don&#039;t miss a trip to the salon, drive new cars, take monthly trips leaving the kids with their mother and whining that the court didn&#039;t give them enough. 

How do we overcome the emotional drain and stop this from happening?  In this day and age it is incredible that we allow these family courts to continue operating this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead Broke &amp; Beaten not Deadbeat.</p>
<p>Abuse websites and information available on the internet ise directed at women. They provide a blue print for how to use the system and what to say in court for the enormouse number of women who abuse men (our sons).</p>
<p>In court, these women have all the right statements rehearsed off the the outline. There is the characteristics of the abused victim, different types of abuse, cycle of abuse, and then there is the blueprint for describing parental alienation.  They have a script, a journal (to refresh their memory) and occassionally tears.  </p>
<p>These women don&#8217;t care about the emotional impact on their children. They request supervised visitation to negotiate for minimum custody. Less custody insures more support and is used like blackmail.</p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t this crummy family law system stop the charade of justice. They might as well gather all these poor, financally and emotionally beaten-down fathers into the pits and force them to work day &amp; night on oil, salt, or rock. Feed them bread &amp; water or nothing till they drop and give split their wages between the black widows they married. When they drop put them in jail for lack of earnings. Sound like a familiar historical scene. No rights, no justice, and certainly no help. </p>
<p>These men are struggling to keep a small roof over their head, find work, spend time with their children that the court allows and pay the support. These women don&#8217;t miss a trip to the salon, drive new cars, take monthly trips leaving the kids with their mother and whining that the court didn&#8217;t give them enough. </p>
<p>How do we overcome the emotional drain and stop this from happening?  In this day and age it is incredible that we allow these family courts to continue operating this way.</p>
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		<title>By: deegallagher</title>
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		<dc:creator>deegallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, we certainly should not leave it at this! I am unsure where to start and inpatient with slow results.    

I am  currently just so disgusted with the system that I am struggling to be positive and support my son thru his dealings with a blackwidow. I fear the result if he  loses all hope of salvaging his life and relationships with his children.  He is struggling to make support payments and keep a roof over his head in fear that they will reduce his visitation. 

She destroyed his certificates and sold his tools. Her cousin swore under oath that he would employ him immediately even with an injured arm, but he turned him down.  She&#039;s filed  contempt charges and the judge  tells him he needs attorney.  If he could pay an attorney he could pay the full support amount, the Moron.  How stupid is this?  Now her mother has put a slanderous &quot;Dead Beat Dad&quot; letter in their small community paper and signed her  name. She doesn&#039;t even live there. Freedom of speech isn&#039;t prohibited.  

Fathers4justice ask that we tell 2 people of the injustice in our failed family law courts.  This may work eventually, if we survive the now.

It is devistating and depressing when you consider that the family lawyers are there only to line their pockets. They don&#039;t care if you win or lose.  They will get paid till they deplete your funds. Then your dropped.  They are the bottom feeders of all attorneys. These lawyers become our judges and the judges become our politicians.  This isn&#039;t leaving me much hope right now and I feel helpless. 

You see, she filed for divorce 1 month after his injury when the constant income ceased. He wasn&#039;t served till 6 weeks later and her family has deep pockets when it comes to paying her attorneys.

Sorry, today was a doom and gloom day for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, we certainly should not leave it at this! I am unsure where to start and inpatient with slow results.    </p>
<p>I am  currently just so disgusted with the system that I am struggling to be positive and support my son thru his dealings with a blackwidow. I fear the result if he  loses all hope of salvaging his life and relationships with his children.  He is struggling to make support payments and keep a roof over his head in fear that they will reduce his visitation. </p>
<p>She destroyed his certificates and sold his tools. Her cousin swore under oath that he would employ him immediately even with an injured arm, but he turned him down.  She&#8217;s filed  contempt charges and the judge  tells him he needs attorney.  If he could pay an attorney he could pay the full support amount, the Moron.  How stupid is this?  Now her mother has put a slanderous &#8220;Dead Beat Dad&#8221; letter in their small community paper and signed her  name. She doesn&#8217;t even live there. Freedom of speech isn&#8217;t prohibited.  </p>
<p>Fathers4justice ask that we tell 2 people of the injustice in our failed family law courts.  This may work eventually, if we survive the now.</p>
<p>It is devistating and depressing when you consider that the family lawyers are there only to line their pockets. They don&#8217;t care if you win or lose.  They will get paid till they deplete your funds. Then your dropped.  They are the bottom feeders of all attorneys. These lawyers become our judges and the judges become our politicians.  This isn&#8217;t leaving me much hope right now and I feel helpless. </p>
<p>You see, she filed for divorce 1 month after his injury when the constant income ceased. He wasn&#8217;t served till 6 weeks later and her family has deep pockets when it comes to paying her attorneys.</p>
<p>Sorry, today was a doom and gloom day for me!</p>
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		<title>By: anti armchair generals</title>
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		<dc:creator>anti armchair generals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When college professor teaches life skills for men legal questions are raised. But would any reporter write about legality of women-only colleges? www.womencolleges.org/

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/education/29848409.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When college professor teaches life skills for men legal questions are raised. But would any reporter write about legality of women-only colleges? <a href="http://www.womencolleges.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.womencolleges.org/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/education/29848409.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/education/29848409.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: merck</title>
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		<dc:creator>merck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to deegallagher said ....


__________________________________________________


Thatâ€™s good advice.

In other words â€œbuyers bewareâ€.

Is that where we should leave it? Is that where we should leave it as a society when thereâ€™s a divorce and single-mother industry bilking the taxpayer out of trillions of dollars? Is that where we should leave it when millions of fathers and children are having their lives destroyed for profit?

How would you feel about entering a contract in â€œgood faithâ€ with a mortgage lender, which stipulated that as long as you kept up your end of the bargain, the contract was for â€œlifeâ€, and then have the lender back out of the deal for no â€œgood reasonâ€ â€¦ then have the courts actively facilitate this lender in destroying your life by taking your children for ransom, putting you on the street,  financially ruining the rest of your life, all in violation of virtually every article in the Bill of Rights, all through â€œno faultâ€ of your own?

Would â€œbuyers bewareâ€ do it for you?

Thanks for trying to understand the injustice, especially when thatâ€™s more than most will do, including our courts and government.

However, this is a national disaster unprecedented in American history, and the victims of this crisis need more than our comforting words. 

Think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to deegallagher said &#8230;.</p>
<p>__________________________________________________</p>
<p>Thatâ€™s good advice.</p>
<p>In other words â€œbuyers bewareâ€.</p>
<p>Is that where we should leave it? Is that where we should leave it as a society when thereâ€™s a divorce and single-mother industry bilking the taxpayer out of trillions of dollars? Is that where we should leave it when millions of fathers and children are having their lives destroyed for profit?</p>
<p>How would you feel about entering a contract in â€œgood faithâ€ with a mortgage lender, which stipulated that as long as you kept up your end of the bargain, the contract was for â€œlifeâ€, and then have the lender back out of the deal for no â€œgood reasonâ€ â€¦ then have the courts actively facilitate this lender in destroying your life by taking your children for ransom, putting you on the street,  financially ruining the rest of your life, all in violation of virtually every article in the Bill of Rights, all through â€œno faultâ€ of your own?</p>
<p>Would â€œbuyers bewareâ€ do it for you?</p>
<p>Thanks for trying to understand the injustice, especially when thatâ€™s more than most will do, including our courts and government.</p>
<p>However, this is a national disaster unprecedented in American history, and the victims of this crisis need more than our comforting words. </p>
<p>Think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: deegallagher</title>
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		<dc:creator>deegallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our family law system is ridiculouus. These women band together helping each other scam the system and abuse  their husbands and government agencies with unproven false allegations. They deceive their husbands and families and plan their scheme well in advance. They have already stashed a nestegg although they claim to be without funds. Their families will support and aid them in crucifying you. Any claim of abuse will work to ruin you and seperate you from the children(inflicting emotional damage).  Throw out all previous beliefs of any rights.  You are guilty even when your proven innocent. &quot;I&#039;m sorry&quot; is an acceptable excuse for lying under oath and is ignored in family court.  
I&#039;ve observed numerous cases of women wearing their Nordstrom&#039;s outfits and fighting for more child support money. How obvious is this?  

They feel they are owed financial support for the rest of lives for allowing you the pleasure of their company. There is a name for this! It is sad but you wouldn&#039;t marry someone you don&#039;t initially trust.  So, how do you protect yourself from becoming a victim? Pay attention to your finances, surroundings, your wive&#039;s volunteer organizations, friends and her attitude.  Be very aware of and recognize the signs. The loving, seductive woman you are sleeping with tonight may very well be the blackwidow you meet in court tomorrow.  Don&#039;t underestimate the amount of planning and deceit she did prior to filing those papers. You probably won&#039;t recognize this woman.

These women are setting prideful women&#039;s rights back 50 years and are an insult to women in general.  Those that take responsibility for their share of the marital debt and support of themselves and the children.  These women also know what a mop, broom, washing machine and dryer are used for. But you won&#039;t hear of them on this site.  They don&#039;t need the FL system. Please don&#039;t stay a victim and hold all women responsible for the sins of your greedy, miserable exwives. There are decent, self-supportive women out there. Choose carefully and be cautious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our family law system is ridiculouus. These women band together helping each other scam the system and abuse  their husbands and government agencies with unproven false allegations. They deceive their husbands and families and plan their scheme well in advance. They have already stashed a nestegg although they claim to be without funds. Their families will support and aid them in crucifying you. Any claim of abuse will work to ruin you and seperate you from the children(inflicting emotional damage).  Throw out all previous beliefs of any rights.  You are guilty even when your proven innocent. &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry&#8221; is an acceptable excuse for lying under oath and is ignored in family court.<br />
I&#8217;ve observed numerous cases of women wearing their Nordstrom&#8217;s outfits and fighting for more child support money. How obvious is this?  </p>
<p>They feel they are owed financial support for the rest of lives for allowing you the pleasure of their company. There is a name for this! It is sad but you wouldn&#8217;t marry someone you don&#8217;t initially trust.  So, how do you protect yourself from becoming a victim? Pay attention to your finances, surroundings, your wive&#8217;s volunteer organizations, friends and her attitude.  Be very aware of and recognize the signs. The loving, seductive woman you are sleeping with tonight may very well be the blackwidow you meet in court tomorrow.  Don&#8217;t underestimate the amount of planning and deceit she did prior to filing those papers. You probably won&#8217;t recognize this woman.</p>
<p>These women are setting prideful women&#8217;s rights back 50 years and are an insult to women in general.  Those that take responsibility for their share of the marital debt and support of themselves and the children.  These women also know what a mop, broom, washing machine and dryer are used for. But you won&#8217;t hear of them on this site.  They don&#8217;t need the FL system. Please don&#8217;t stay a victim and hold all women responsible for the sins of your greedy, miserable exwives. There are decent, self-supportive women out there. Choose carefully and be cautious!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to make a t Shirt  I&#039;m deadbroke, not deadbeat.  Besides the word &quot;deadbeat&quot; is like the  N word, A slur and an insult to a decent parent criminalized by the racket we call the family court system.  
The day is coming, a revolution will take place.  The deadbroke, the deadbolted and the just plain dead tired, will stand up and put an end to this God awful racket.  It will be the &quot;terrorist&quot; who ran it, past tense, who will be hunted down and they will end up on the dockets of justice.  I can see it now , some rotten little turd will be there in front of the court of justice and be crying when he is sentenced to either a long hard prison sentence or the worst offenders are sentenced to death.
They will be kicking and screamin&#039; and a cryin&#039;, saying it just ain&#039;t fair, we where just doin&#039; our jobs.  And when they do execute some of them, they in their warped minds will just think they are being punished for losing, not that they did anything wrong.  Even facing death, the reprehensible little turds will not admit to doin&#039; wrong.
It will never occur to them, just how many people they hurt and that the most extreme punishment metted out to them is nowhere near severe enough.
It sounds mean, but gettin&#039; rid of these bastards is the only solution.  They can not be reformed, they can not be made to see their mistakes and how evil what they did was, gettin&#039; rid of them is the only way, sadly enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to make a t Shirt  I&#8217;m deadbroke, not deadbeat.  Besides the word &#8220;deadbeat&#8221; is like the  N word, A slur and an insult to a decent parent criminalized by the racket we call the family court system.<br />
The day is coming, a revolution will take place.  The deadbroke, the deadbolted and the just plain dead tired, will stand up and put an end to this God awful racket.  It will be the &#8220;terrorist&#8221; who ran it, past tense, who will be hunted down and they will end up on the dockets of justice.  I can see it now , some rotten little turd will be there in front of the court of justice and be crying when he is sentenced to either a long hard prison sentence or the worst offenders are sentenced to death.<br />
They will be kicking and screamin&#8217; and a cryin&#8217;, saying it just ain&#8217;t fair, we where just doin&#8217; our jobs.  And when they do execute some of them, they in their warped minds will just think they are being punished for losing, not that they did anything wrong.  Even facing death, the reprehensible little turds will not admit to doin&#8217; wrong.<br />
It will never occur to them, just how many people they hurt and that the most extreme punishment metted out to them is nowhere near severe enough.<br />
It sounds mean, but gettin&#8217; rid of these bastards is the only solution.  They can not be reformed, they can not be made to see their mistakes and how evil what they did was, gettin&#8217; rid of them is the only way, sadly enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Prince Daddy &#187; Unemployment Is The Main Reason Child Support Doesn&#8217;t Get Paid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prince Daddy &#187; Unemployment Is The Main Reason Child Support Doesn&#8217;t Get Paid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Okay. It&#8217;s a fact. You do the research. I just had to get that off my chest this afternoon. But, can you see how it&#8217;s all a part of a larger anti-male hate campaign? Can you see that? And, do you understand why? Read a bit more if you like&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Okay. It&#8217;s a fact. You do the research. I just had to get that off my chest this afternoon. But, can you see how it&#8217;s all a part of a larger anti-male hate campaign? Can you see that? And, do you understand why? Read a bit more if you like&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: daveinga</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveinga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the truth is out there for all to see,
but they don&#039;t want to see.

this is really big business,
maybe the biggest business in the u.s.
can&#039;t even name all the groups that profit from the c.s.
industry, from the obvious mom and lawyer/judges/court ee&#039;s all
the way down the food chain to the sheriffs and jailers and prison const., maintenance, cooks, and so forth. 

one thing that gets me is the ability for the states to charge whatever they want in interest and fees. a $1,000 debt for lack of work can mean (by design) the permanent end of a parents relationship w/ his children due to tens of thousands in &quot;other&quot; monies/fees/interest/whatever owed. finance companies/bank officials would be arrested if they tried to charge the interest and fees states do, to help the children. using trumped up figures to villify the dad and give cause to put him in debtor&#039;s prison really helps the children. 

my dad&#039;s a felon, what does your dad do?

and let&#039;s not get me started on the fed. matching $$$$.
no incentive to destroy traditional families there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the truth is out there for all to see,<br />
but they don&#8217;t want to see.</p>
<p>this is really big business,<br />
maybe the biggest business in the u.s.<br />
can&#8217;t even name all the groups that profit from the c.s.<br />
industry, from the obvious mom and lawyer/judges/court ee&#8217;s all<br />
the way down the food chain to the sheriffs and jailers and prison const., maintenance, cooks, and so forth. </p>
<p>one thing that gets me is the ability for the states to charge whatever they want in interest and fees. a $1,000 debt for lack of work can mean (by design) the permanent end of a parents relationship w/ his children due to tens of thousands in &#8220;other&#8221; monies/fees/interest/whatever owed. finance companies/bank officials would be arrested if they tried to charge the interest and fees states do, to help the children. using trumped up figures to villify the dad and give cause to put him in debtor&#8217;s prison really helps the children. </p>
<p>my dad&#8217;s a felon, what does your dad do?</p>
<p>and let&#8217;s not get me started on the fed. matching $$$$.<br />
no incentive to destroy traditional families there.</p>
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		<title>By: mruffolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mruffolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American government plans to give hundreds of billions of dollars to rich Wall Streeters and foreign banks; gives tens of billions to foreigners in aid; spends about $100 billion annually for the child support, welfare in absent-father programs and infrastructure, yet American&#039;s and its leaders quickly condemn and incarcerate a father for owing a few thousand. 

When America&#039;s divorce rate is one of the highest in the world, the power of school and media must be powerful for a guy to want to get married in America.

What am I missing here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American government plans to give hundreds of billions of dollars to rich Wall Streeters and foreign banks; gives tens of billions to foreigners in aid; spends about $100 billion annually for the child support, welfare in absent-father programs and infrastructure, yet American&#8217;s and its leaders quickly condemn and incarcerate a father for owing a few thousand. </p>
<p>When America&#8217;s divorce rate is one of the highest in the world, the power of school and media must be powerful for a guy to want to get married in America.</p>
<p>What am I missing here?</p>
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		<title>By: T Finnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Finnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The system is a part of a woman&#039;s Karpman Drama Triangle.  There are victims (single mothers), perpetrators (deadbeat dads) and Saviors (the god approved government officials).  There is high drama as the saviors catch the perpetraors.  They go round and round the Drama Triangle changing roles.  The deadbeatdad becomes a victim ...   The children get to watch the  Drama.  The classic role with a heroine as victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The system is a part of a woman&#8217;s Karpman Drama Triangle.  There are victims (single mothers), perpetrators (deadbeat dads) and Saviors (the god approved government officials).  There is high drama as the saviors catch the perpetraors.  They go round and round the Drama Triangle changing roles.  The deadbeatdad becomes a victim &#8230;   The children get to watch the  Drama.  The classic role with a heroine as victim.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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