Comments on: Few Women in Abuse Shelters are True Victims of Violence http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/02/few-women-in-abuse-shelters-are-true-victims-of-violence/ Men's Rights Activism, MRA Politics, Analysis, Commentary and Global News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:12:59 -1000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: shatteredmen http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/02/few-women-in-abuse-shelters-are-true-victims-of-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-68560 shatteredmen Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:40:32 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/?p=82097#comment-68560 The Duluth model allows almost anything to be called abuse they do not like but it only applies if a man does it to a woman but not if women do it to men. For example, if a man is not intimate with his wife, she can call that abuse but there is no problem to lock her husband out of the bedroom and make him sleep on the sofa for weeks at a time. Why is one abuse while the other is not? The Duluth model allows almost anything to be called abuse they do not like but it only applies if a man does it to a woman but not if women do it to men. For example, if a man is not intimate with his wife, she can call that abuse but there is no problem to lock her husband out of the bedroom and make him sleep on the sofa for weeks at a time. Why is one abuse while the other is not?

]]> By: shatteredmen http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/02/few-women-in-abuse-shelters-are-true-victims-of-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-68559 shatteredmen Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:39:36 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/?p=82097#comment-68559 Vivian, if it were just "physically" abused women in the shelters, we would at least have some evidence of that abuse. but even then we can not be 100% sure as often physical injuries can be self-inflicted but what kind of evidence is there for emotionally abuse other then someone own word that they have been abused? So often when a parent tells his or her children something they do not want to hear they tell the other parent that they we being yelled at. I wonder how much of this so called emotional abuse is just that? Things such as "Why is this phone bill so high" when there are several hundred dollars to psyche hot lines on it. Many would consider it emotional abuse because they have the right to spend money too...even though they do not have it. Vivian, if it were just "physically" abused women in the shelters, we would at least have some evidence of that abuse. but even then we can not be 100% sure as often physical injuries can be self-inflicted but what kind of evidence is there for emotionally abuse other then someone own word that they have been abused?

So often when a parent tells his or her children something they do not want to hear they tell the other parent that they we being yelled at. I wonder how much of this so called emotional abuse is just that? Things such as "Why is this phone bill so high" when there are several hundred dollars to psyche hot lines on it. Many would consider it emotional abuse because they have the right to spend money too…even though they do not have it.

]]> By: Vivian DiPaola http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/02/few-women-in-abuse-shelters-are-true-victims-of-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-68535 Vivian DiPaola Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:35:20 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/?p=82097#comment-68535 You mention only "physically" abused women when the fact is there ARE emotionally abused women in shelters as well, so before you claim to know all the facts, check first. And if you are so worried about where your money is going to, then don't donate to any organization, just to make yourself feel better and resort simply to spending it on clothes, shoes and makeup that you don't really need and stop misleading people! You mention only "physically" abused women when the fact is there ARE emotionally abused women in shelters as well, so before you claim to know all the facts, check first. And if you are so worried about where your money is going to, then don't donate to any organization, just to make yourself feel better and resort simply to spending it on clothes, shoes and makeup that you don't really need and stop misleading people!

]]> By: tom of covent garden http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/02/few-women-in-abuse-shelters-are-true-victims-of-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-66723 tom of covent garden Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:04:54 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/?p=82097#comment-66723 This is a great article. Who knew? If these shelters were open to men in my town, it would virtually eliminate the vast populations of men's 'homeless' hostels and halfway houses. If some hostels manage to mix the sexes, despite their alcohol/drug/crime/violence/mental illness-prone clients, then 'DV' shelters should be able to mix the sexes too. Any opportunity to eliminate sex segregation should be embraced - and it would eliminate the potential for sexist indoctrination too, at a vulnerable time for genuine victims. Yet the UK government specifically states the need to preserve single sex DV shelters, for both clients, and staff. If they can successfully run mixed sex prisons in Denmark, setting the world standard, then shelters should aim that way too. This is a great article. Who knew? If these shelters were open to men in my town, it would virtually eliminate the vast populations of men’s ‘homeless’ hostels and halfway houses.

If some hostels manage to mix the sexes, despite their alcohol/drug/crime/violence/mental illness-prone clients, then ‘DV’ shelters should be able to mix the sexes too. Any opportunity to eliminate sex segregation should be embraced – and it would eliminate the potential for sexist indoctrination too, at a vulnerable time for genuine victims. Yet the UK government specifically states the need to preserve single sex DV shelters, for both clients, and staff.

If they can successfully run mixed sex prisons in Denmark, setting the world standard, then shelters should aim that way too.

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