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	<title>Comments on: Warning: N.O.W. L.A. Chapter Endorses Palin</title>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/05/warning-now-la-chapter-endorses-palin/comment-page-1/#comment-67872</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

You&#039;re citing yourself as proof that you&#039;re right?

That&#039;s taking the repetition creates facts concept a little too far, don&#039;t you think?

It is likely correct that the appearance of endorsement by NOW hurt the McCain campaign, and absolutely true that the people running the McCain campaign were too stupid to realize its effect. Post-election, Palin still said she wanted another shot at going after those women&#039;s votes.

In my opinion:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/18/mccain-palin-losing-the-gender-gap-war/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;McCain Palin Losing the Gender Gap War&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/05/why-john-mccain-is-losing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The problem with the McCain campaign is that our war hero canâ€™t find the battlefield.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re citing yourself as proof that you&#8217;re right?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s taking the repetition creates facts concept a little too far, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>It is likely correct that the appearance of endorsement by NOW hurt the McCain campaign, and absolutely true that the people running the McCain campaign were too stupid to realize its effect. Post-election, Palin still said she wanted another shot at going after those women&#8217;s votes.</p>
<p>In my opinion:</p>
<p><a href="http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/18/mccain-palin-losing-the-gender-gap-war/" rel="nofollow">McCain Palin Losing the Gender Gap War</a></p>
<p><a href="http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/05/why-john-mccain-is-losing/" rel="nofollow">The problem with the McCain campaign is that our war hero canâ€™t find the battlefield.</a></p>
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		<title>By: David R. Usher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David R. Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 06:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,

For the record: the article is titled &quot;N.O.W. L.A. Chapter Endorses Palin&quot;.  That is exactly what happened.

I still believe they liked her for a lot of feminist reasons.  If their endorsement of her hurt support amonst Republicans, it was marginal compared to the very public issues in which a lot of conservatives did not see her as having the knowledge or experience needed to &quot;manage&quot; a presidential office, or to be President in the event that McCain could not complete a term</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>For the record: the article is titled &#8220;N.O.W. L.A. Chapter Endorses Palin&#8221;.  That is exactly what happened.</p>
<p>I still believe they liked her for a lot of feminist reasons.  If their endorsement of her hurt support amonst Republicans, it was marginal compared to the very public issues in which a lot of conservatives did not see her as having the knowledge or experience needed to &#8220;manage&#8221; a presidential office, or to be President in the event that McCain could not complete a term</p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to keep the facts straight - I hope it&#039;s clear to everyone now that Palin did not get any endorsement from N.O.W. The positive intruduction of Palin has been characterized as rogue by the organization and in no way representing the organization&#039;s views. The whole national organization has formally endorsed Obama-Biden and is pumping money into his campaign, as well as other Democrats.

The positive intruduction of Palin by the leader of the LA chapter may have been done to undermine Palin&#039;s credibility with the Republican base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to keep the facts straight &#8211; I hope it&#8217;s clear to everyone now that Palin did not get any endorsement from N.O.W. The positive intruduction of Palin has been characterized as rogue by the organization and in no way representing the organization&#8217;s views. The whole national organization has formally endorsed Obama-Biden and is pumping money into his campaign, as well as other Democrats.</p>
<p>The positive intruduction of Palin by the leader of the LA chapter may have been done to undermine Palin&#8217;s credibility with the Republican base.</p>
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		<title>By: VeteransAbroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>VeteransAbroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been away from MND for awhile. I am stunned that the NOW actually ENDORSED Palin and the Republican audience CHEERED and Palin basically said that feminism was monolithic and that the anti-feminist women need to go to HELL.

For the first time I am thinking that this ticket must now LOSE and LOSE BIG.

I won&#039;t even write my planned article on How McCain/Palin can still win because that involved a weekend blitz attack on the NOW and how Palin would say it does not represent women.

Apparently Palin believes the opposite. She needs to disappear from politics. 

For that, she needs to see a tidal wave defeat her and the old man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been away from MND for awhile. I am stunned that the NOW actually ENDORSED Palin and the Republican audience CHEERED and Palin basically said that feminism was monolithic and that the anti-feminist women need to go to HELL.</p>
<p>For the first time I am thinking that this ticket must now LOSE and LOSE BIG.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t even write my planned article on How McCain/Palin can still win because that involved a weekend blitz attack on the NOW and how Palin would say it does not represent women.</p>
<p>Apparently Palin believes the opposite. She needs to disappear from politics. </p>
<p>For that, she needs to see a tidal wave defeat her and the old man.</p>
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		<title>By: merck</title>
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		<dc:creator>merck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the 2000 election, Bush won by a couple hundred votes in Florida. 

In the 2004 election, Bush won by, (if my memory is correct) 40,000 votes in Ohio.

The simple truth of the matter is that a voting block of just half the twenty million potential NCP voters, could easily determine elections for decades to come, in a nation that is so evenly divided on many of the other important issues. 

Under the right leadership, a menâ€™s/fatherâ€™s rights movement has the potential to be one of the most powerful and influential movements in American history. 

By the way, I wouldnâ€™t count McCain out yet. It wouldnâ€™t be the first time that mistake has been made and the fat lady is nowhere in sight. 

Obama is a charlatan. 

I hope it doesnâ€™t take him getting elected and leading us into WWIII for people to figure that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 2000 election, Bush won by a couple hundred votes in Florida. </p>
<p>In the 2004 election, Bush won by, (if my memory is correct) 40,000 votes in Ohio.</p>
<p>The simple truth of the matter is that a voting block of just half the twenty million potential NCP voters, could easily determine elections for decades to come, in a nation that is so evenly divided on many of the other important issues. </p>
<p>Under the right leadership, a menâ€™s/fatherâ€™s rights movement has the potential to be one of the most powerful and influential movements in American history. </p>
<p>By the way, I wouldnâ€™t count McCain out yet. It wouldnâ€™t be the first time that mistake has been made and the fat lady is nowhere in sight. </p>
<p>Obama is a charlatan. </p>
<p>I hope it doesnâ€™t take him getting elected and leading us into WWIII for people to figure that out.</p>
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		<title>By: poiuyt</title>
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		<dc:creator>poiuyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You !

Todays existing party-bound conservative and socialist-liberal male leaders, are very much more freinds of each other than they are of ordinary men. Ordinary men, whom only want to live an honest life of work, family and happiness unimpeded.

With the profit, power and position mutually garnered by these party elites selling out the status and standing of males to females, they have come to need and value each others friendship more than ours. As far as they&#039;re concerned it is enough protection for them, that we males quarrel amongst ourselves interminably chasing phantoms.

This is why all males of whatever political, religious, national or racial persuassion must stand right up witin their midst, as members, and challenge these conflict peddlars on their treachery. To be counted as male for what we are, and not what we are&#039;nt, as these leaders would have us cast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You !</p>
<p>Todays existing party-bound conservative and socialist-liberal male leaders, are very much more freinds of each other than they are of ordinary men. Ordinary men, whom only want to live an honest life of work, family and happiness unimpeded.</p>
<p>With the profit, power and position mutually garnered by these party elites selling out the status and standing of males to females, they have come to need and value each others friendship more than ours. As far as they&#8217;re concerned it is enough protection for them, that we males quarrel amongst ourselves interminably chasing phantoms.</p>
<p>This is why all males of whatever political, religious, national or racial persuassion must stand right up witin their midst, as members, and challenge these conflict peddlars on their treachery. To be counted as male for what we are, and not what we are&#8217;nt, as these leaders would have us cast.</p>
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		<title>By: David R. Usher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David R. Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;On FR Organization:&lt;/strong&gt; the FR movement will never be large and powerful enough to change America on its own.  Neither will the Pro-Life movement (as large as it is).  There are plenty of other single-issues groups who have the same problems we do: on their own they have not been able to win against the liberal army.

If Pro-Lifers want to win, they have to recognize that when marriage is important, abortion is not necessary.  They must team up with us, and a lot of other special interest groups to form an unavoidable majority.

Conservatives lose time and time again because they partition themselves into niche organizations that fail to work with each other to build critical mass.  Conservatives simply will never behave like Liberals, who swarm like Bolsheviks to execute their agenda.  

In the end, it is the Party that should be organizing all these groups, and executing the larger picture.  This is the fundamental nature of true conservatism - power is uplinked and delegated to the federal government, not forced on the people as liberal do.  Where the Republican Party has increasingly been behaving like liberals -- as if power begins in DC and we have to take what is forced upon us -- Republicans simply cannot win.

Since the Party has failed to pull in its constituency, and gone out of its way to  reject the vast majority of its constituency groups, it will get clobbered in November.

&lt;strong&gt;On the Elections: &lt;/strong&gt;While McCain is certainly not as bad as Obama on some things, neither of them are truly worth lifting a finger for.  Both will sell us out to the same old system.  The best way to show the political system that you don&#039;t buy into their nonsense is to vote for somebody who would shake things up.  

During the debate tonight, McCain kept saying, &quot;my friends .... [blah]&quot;.  I met with McCain at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference.  If he were our friend, he would not have avoided the marriage issues that I presented, and ducked out without even thanking me for wasting my time with him.  McCain is not my friend.  Pretending that he is my friend tonight was a fatally-condescending mistake.   I&#039;m a keen observer of people.  His behavior at the SRLC clearly demonstarted that McCain is in this on a quest for power, just like Obama.  Neither truly intend change America for the better. 

In contrast, I met with G.W. Bush at a St. Louis rally in 2000 for a few minutes.  He was quite approachable.  He connected with me on the issues, listened actively, agreed, and said he would do what he could (he did at least try to slash VAWA funding).  His interest and response were genuine.  McCain treated me like an inmate at a cattle auction.    I&#039;m not voting for him come hell or high water.  

I know a lot of folks (both liberal and conservative) voting Ron Paul to demonstrate rejection of what both parties are doing.  While I do disagree with Paul on some things, he is probably the best choice to send signals to both parties that we have had enough of them.  I know some biggies in the Republican party who feel the same way and will quietly be voting for Ron Paul to express their disgust with the RNC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>On FR Organization:</strong> the FR movement will never be large and powerful enough to change America on its own.  Neither will the Pro-Life movement (as large as it is).  There are plenty of other single-issues groups who have the same problems we do: on their own they have not been able to win against the liberal army.</p>
<p>If Pro-Lifers want to win, they have to recognize that when marriage is important, abortion is not necessary.  They must team up with us, and a lot of other special interest groups to form an unavoidable majority.</p>
<p>Conservatives lose time and time again because they partition themselves into niche organizations that fail to work with each other to build critical mass.  Conservatives simply will never behave like Liberals, who swarm like Bolsheviks to execute their agenda.  </p>
<p>In the end, it is the Party that should be organizing all these groups, and executing the larger picture.  This is the fundamental nature of true conservatism &#8211; power is uplinked and delegated to the federal government, not forced on the people as liberal do.  Where the Republican Party has increasingly been behaving like liberals &#8212; as if power begins in DC and we have to take what is forced upon us &#8212; Republicans simply cannot win.</p>
<p>Since the Party has failed to pull in its constituency, and gone out of its way to  reject the vast majority of its constituency groups, it will get clobbered in November.</p>
<p><strong>On the Elections: </strong>While McCain is certainly not as bad as Obama on some things, neither of them are truly worth lifting a finger for.  Both will sell us out to the same old system.  The best way to show the political system that you don&#8217;t buy into their nonsense is to vote for somebody who would shake things up.  </p>
<p>During the debate tonight, McCain kept saying, &#8220;my friends &#8230;. [blah]&#8220;.  I met with McCain at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference.  If he were our friend, he would not have avoided the marriage issues that I presented, and ducked out without even thanking me for wasting my time with him.  McCain is not my friend.  Pretending that he is my friend tonight was a fatally-condescending mistake.   I&#8217;m a keen observer of people.  His behavior at the SRLC clearly demonstarted that McCain is in this on a quest for power, just like Obama.  Neither truly intend change America for the better. </p>
<p>In contrast, I met with G.W. Bush at a St. Louis rally in 2000 for a few minutes.  He was quite approachable.  He connected with me on the issues, listened actively, agreed, and said he would do what he could (he did at least try to slash VAWA funding).  His interest and response were genuine.  McCain treated me like an inmate at a cattle auction.    I&#8217;m not voting for him come hell or high water.  </p>
<p>I know a lot of folks (both liberal and conservative) voting Ron Paul to demonstrate rejection of what both parties are doing.  While I do disagree with Paul on some things, he is probably the best choice to send signals to both parties that we have had enough of them.  I know some biggies in the Republican party who feel the same way and will quietly be voting for Ron Paul to express their disgust with the RNC.</p>
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		<title>By: T Finnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Finnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merck, Right on.  Don&#039;t vote for McCain; vote against Biden. NOW will demand its reward, if Biden wins.  We can ask for our demands.  Even if we receive nothing, NOW will not be rewarded and that is the beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merck, Right on.  Don&#8217;t vote for McCain; vote against Biden. NOW will demand its reward, if Biden wins.  We can ask for our demands.  Even if we receive nothing, NOW will not be rewarded and that is the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: merck</title>
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		<dc:creator>merck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe one of the ways Republicans could have â€œsealed the dealâ€ on this election would have been to help organize the large non-custodial parent vote. Itâ€™s a well known fact that there are approximately 20,000,000 of these folks out there and those kinds of numbers could have easily delivered the Whitehouse to John McCain.

A couple of years ago Mike McCormick of ACFC put out a piece entitled â€œOver the Humpâ€ where he enthusiastically proclaimed that we had the attention of several Senators who wanted to support our efforts. These Senators called upon McCormick and Dr. Baskerville to â€œshow some leadershipâ€. 

In all fairness, I think itâ€™s unreasonable to place the burden of organizing the NCP population on the shoulders of people with very few resources, especially when the Republican Party has vast resources with which to effectively organize them if they wanted to. I think the Senators in question; probably needed us to show the Republican Base that our numbers exist, before theyâ€™re willing to stick their necks out for us.

In the meantime, I think itâ€™s important not to shoot ourselves in the foot, this time around, by not supporting the very same people who were ready to show some support if we were able to organize. No one in the other camp has shown any inclination of support. Why would they? Theyâ€™re making a fortune from our enslavement largely at taxpayer expense. 

If Obama gets elected, things will get much worse for children, men, fathers and our country. 

Letâ€™s get out the vote for McCain, while bearing in mind that the real challenge is organizing the NCP population to *vote as one* in 2012. The simple reality of the situation is that if weâ€™re not an organized political force, weâ€™re not important to either side. Thatâ€™s a very harsh reality, and weâ€™re not the first to have to endure it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe one of the ways Republicans could have â€œsealed the dealâ€ on this election would have been to help organize the large non-custodial parent vote. Itâ€™s a well known fact that there are approximately 20,000,000 of these folks out there and those kinds of numbers could have easily delivered the Whitehouse to John McCain.</p>
<p>A couple of years ago Mike McCormick of ACFC put out a piece entitled â€œOver the Humpâ€ where he enthusiastically proclaimed that we had the attention of several Senators who wanted to support our efforts. These Senators called upon McCormick and Dr. Baskerville to â€œshow some leadershipâ€. </p>
<p>In all fairness, I think itâ€™s unreasonable to place the burden of organizing the NCP population on the shoulders of people with very few resources, especially when the Republican Party has vast resources with which to effectively organize them if they wanted to. I think the Senators in question; probably needed us to show the Republican Base that our numbers exist, before theyâ€™re willing to stick their necks out for us.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I think itâ€™s important not to shoot ourselves in the foot, this time around, by not supporting the very same people who were ready to show some support if we were able to organize. No one in the other camp has shown any inclination of support. Why would they? Theyâ€™re making a fortune from our enslavement largely at taxpayer expense. </p>
<p>If Obama gets elected, things will get much worse for children, men, fathers and our country. </p>
<p>Letâ€™s get out the vote for McCain, while bearing in mind that the real challenge is organizing the NCP population to *vote as one* in 2012. The simple reality of the situation is that if weâ€™re not an organized political force, weâ€™re not important to either side. Thatâ€™s a very harsh reality, and weâ€™re not the first to have to endure it.</p>
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		<title>By: T Finnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Finnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever wins the election chooses Federal Court Judges, Appellate Judges, Supreme Court Judges.  Although this is subject to Senate confirmation, much control exists so that extremes would not be nominated.  Get real.  If you&#039;re not going to use your vote to take out Biden, what are you going to do; after the election write more vehemently on this site and whine when NOW is being rewarded for their support and the men&#039;s groups that didn&#039;t vote get nothing. Take out the chieftain of your enemy. This is the beginning</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever wins the election chooses Federal Court Judges, Appellate Judges, Supreme Court Judges.  Although this is subject to Senate confirmation, much control exists so that extremes would not be nominated.  Get real.  If you&#8217;re not going to use your vote to take out Biden, what are you going to do; after the election write more vehemently on this site and whine when NOW is being rewarded for their support and the men&#8217;s groups that didn&#8217;t vote get nothing. Take out the chieftain of your enemy. This is the beginning</p>
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		<title>By: David R. Usher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David R. Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>merck: The Supreme Court and federal appeals courts have long refused to attend to the federal issues driving divorce and illegitimacy.  This hold true of appointees during both Republican and Democrat administrations.

Who wins this election has nothing to do with what Federal courts do with regard to how the federal government drives these problems.

When reforms come, it could come from either party or perhaps both.  We cannot guess which one that might be, or when it will take place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>merck: The Supreme Court and federal appeals courts have long refused to attend to the federal issues driving divorce and illegitimacy.  This hold true of appointees during both Republican and Democrat administrations.</p>
<p>Who wins this election has nothing to do with what Federal courts do with regard to how the federal government drives these problems.</p>
<p>When reforms come, it could come from either party or perhaps both.  We cannot guess which one that might be, or when it will take place.</p>
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		<title>By: mruffolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mruffolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a member of a church that claimed they were against abortion and homosexuality while stressing the importance of family (anti-divorce) - seemed conservative.  However, behind the marketing, operations were different.  

The leaders were mostly liberal feminist women and men with same values. They supported abortion and divorce with money to &quot;help&quot; people to get through the devastating experience - support groups, fundraising, awareness campaigns,...

The church is Willow Creek Community Church in Barrington, Illinois.

No such thing as a liberal conservative person or organization. No such thing as an anti-feminist woman with a career.

American men ought to immediately fight or hide - government, culture, academics, church mostly hate men.  

Or vote with your feet - there are over 200 countries in the world with better opportunities for men in family and business compared to America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a member of a church that claimed they were against abortion and homosexuality while stressing the importance of family (anti-divorce) &#8211; seemed conservative.  However, behind the marketing, operations were different.  </p>
<p>The leaders were mostly liberal feminist women and men with same values. They supported abortion and divorce with money to &#8220;help&#8221; people to get through the devastating experience &#8211; support groups, fundraising, awareness campaigns,&#8230;</p>
<p>The church is Willow Creek Community Church in Barrington, Illinois.</p>
<p>No such thing as a liberal conservative person or organization. No such thing as an anti-feminist woman with a career.</p>
<p>American men ought to immediately fight or hide &#8211; government, culture, academics, church mostly hate men.  </p>
<p>Or vote with your feet &#8211; there are over 200 countries in the world with better opportunities for men in family and business compared to America.</p>
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		<title>By: emarel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emarel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>merck, you&#039;re wrong. The conservative movement, Christian and otherwise, focuses solely on abortion and ignores the wider issues such as the loss of shame related to  illegitmacy, the explosion of single mothers and the crime, poverty and general dysfunction they produce, and how inducements such as no fault divorce, automatic mother custody, child support, alimony, and protection from false accusations have destroyed marriage by encouraging women to abandon it. David said, &quot;The problem is that the pro-life movement does not understand the fact that when marriage is important, abortion is not necessary.&quot; This is absolutely true.

Denis, this is one baby boomer who says that, as usual, you rock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>merck, you&#8217;re wrong. The conservative movement, Christian and otherwise, focuses solely on abortion and ignores the wider issues such as the loss of shame related to  illegitmacy, the explosion of single mothers and the crime, poverty and general dysfunction they produce, and how inducements such as no fault divorce, automatic mother custody, child support, alimony, and protection from false accusations have destroyed marriage by encouraging women to abandon it. David said, &#8220;The problem is that the pro-life movement does not understand the fact that when marriage is important, abortion is not necessary.&#8221; This is absolutely true.</p>
<p>Denis, this is one baby boomer who says that, as usual, you rock.</p>
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		<title>By: merck</title>
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		<dc:creator>merck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This election is the most important in our lifetime. 

Two or possibly three Supreme Court Justices will be appointed by the next administration shaping the Court for years to come. Itâ€™ll make a huge difference in not just abortion, but on every single issue we face as a nation. 

There has never been a more important election in the life of anyone alive today, and in the lives that will surely never have a chance at all, if Obama is elected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us_y9GP_-DA

http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/abort29.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This election is the most important in our lifetime. </p>
<p>Two or possibly three Supreme Court Justices will be appointed by the next administration shaping the Court for years to come. Itâ€™ll make a huge difference in not just abortion, but on every single issue we face as a nation. </p>
<p>There has never been a more important election in the life of anyone alive today, and in the lives that will surely never have a chance at all, if Obama is elected.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us_y9GP_-DA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us_y9GP_-DA</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/abort29.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/abort29.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;T Finnan said, Please answer the question? What if Biden becomes President?&lt;/i&gt;

Answered yet another way, it doesn&#039;t seem to make any difference in the fundamentals who gets elected. The two parties engaged in systematic activities that led to the decommissioning of the Bill of Rights. The US officially no longer supports the notion that anyone has a fundamental right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. All of that has shifted to arbitrary political control. It seems clear from the party platforms that both parties intend to maintain this status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>T Finnan said, Please answer the question? What if Biden becomes President?</i></p>
<p>Answered yet another way, it doesn&#8217;t seem to make any difference in the fundamentals who gets elected. The two parties engaged in systematic activities that led to the decommissioning of the Bill of Rights. The US officially no longer supports the notion that anyone has a fundamental right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. All of that has shifted to arbitrary political control. It seems clear from the party platforms that both parties intend to maintain this status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Feminists and an impossible coalition of disillusioned Christians, conservatives, liberals improperly blame men for both the divorce and illegitimacy revolutions.&quot;

This certainly is a strong case as to why men ought not entangle themselves in the machinery of government by getting married.

But the cause goes way beyond what is said here.

The cause of the predicament that males find themselves in today is largely the fault of a large percentage of baby-boomer men.

I challenge you to find one and talk to them. Try to understand their politics. To this day many many of these men are ardent feminists who like all boomers-female and male-are deluded. They see what they want-not what is.

Look-feminism is now firing on all six cylinders. They have ownership of:

1.) The Family-Fathers don&#039;t have a voice
2.) The Politicians-Men don&#039;t have a voice
3.) The Machinery of Government-Men don&#039;t have a voice
4.) The Legal System-Men/Fathers don&#039;t have a voice
5.) Economic Power-Women soon will dominate economic power
6.) The Media-Do I have to explain this one?

How the hell did it get this far?

Baby Boomer men sat by.

Their son, and their sons-sons, etc. will and are paying the price.

Go ahead and protest. Most people will say you need to be hospitalized.

Do
 
Not

Marry

The ONLY power men have is to NOT be exploited.

Force a dramatic change in America&#039;s demographics. 

Or marry outside of America. But take the time and effort to do it right.

Make the women of America pay this time around. 

The innocent ones too. 

Remember millions of innocent American men have been screwed for decades.

Force a change on this culture.

1.) Men by their nature are protective of females. This is evidenced by the fact that powerful men cater to women&#039;s interests.

2.) Women by their nature are neither protective nor fair towards men. Women will always do what they believe is best for women.

Number 1.) above works fairest for both men and women when the masculine archetype dominates a culture. This is how America used to be (Pre-Baby Boomer Era).

Today in America the feminine archetype dominates. 

Number 2.) above in the feminine archetype era in which we all now live works the absolute best for advancing female power and dominance, that is, female political interests- and the absolute worst for men.

You can waste your time pushing on a string or you can get on with the business of figuring out to get what YOU want-and let the rest of America be damned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Feminists and an impossible coalition of disillusioned Christians, conservatives, liberals improperly blame men for both the divorce and illegitimacy revolutions.&#8221;</p>
<p>This certainly is a strong case as to why men ought not entangle themselves in the machinery of government by getting married.</p>
<p>But the cause goes way beyond what is said here.</p>
<p>The cause of the predicament that males find themselves in today is largely the fault of a large percentage of baby-boomer men.</p>
<p>I challenge you to find one and talk to them. Try to understand their politics. To this day many many of these men are ardent feminists who like all boomers-female and male-are deluded. They see what they want-not what is.</p>
<p>Look-feminism is now firing on all six cylinders. They have ownership of:</p>
<p>1.) The Family-Fathers don&#8217;t have a voice<br />
2.) The Politicians-Men don&#8217;t have a voice<br />
3.) The Machinery of Government-Men don&#8217;t have a voice<br />
4.) The Legal System-Men/Fathers don&#8217;t have a voice<br />
5.) Economic Power-Women soon will dominate economic power<br />
6.) The Media-Do I have to explain this one?</p>
<p>How the hell did it get this far?</p>
<p>Baby Boomer men sat by.</p>
<p>Their son, and their sons-sons, etc. will and are paying the price.</p>
<p>Go ahead and protest. Most people will say you need to be hospitalized.</p>
<p>Do</p>
<p>Not</p>
<p>Marry</p>
<p>The ONLY power men have is to NOT be exploited.</p>
<p>Force a dramatic change in America&#8217;s demographics. </p>
<p>Or marry outside of America. But take the time and effort to do it right.</p>
<p>Make the women of America pay this time around. </p>
<p>The innocent ones too. </p>
<p>Remember millions of innocent American men have been screwed for decades.</p>
<p>Force a change on this culture.</p>
<p>1.) Men by their nature are protective of females. This is evidenced by the fact that powerful men cater to women&#8217;s interests.</p>
<p>2.) Women by their nature are neither protective nor fair towards men. Women will always do what they believe is best for women.</p>
<p>Number 1.) above works fairest for both men and women when the masculine archetype dominates a culture. This is how America used to be (Pre-Baby Boomer Era).</p>
<p>Today in America the feminine archetype dominates. </p>
<p>Number 2.) above in the feminine archetype era in which we all now live works the absolute best for advancing female power and dominance, that is, female political interests- and the absolute worst for men.</p>
<p>You can waste your time pushing on a string or you can get on with the business of figuring out to get what YOU want-and let the rest of America be damned.</p>
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		<title>By: merck</title>
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		<dc:creator>merck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>---â€œMerck, lots of FRâ€™s/MRMs oppose abortion. The problem is that the pro-life movement does not understand the fact that when marriage is important, abortion is not necessary.â€

Thatâ€™s an interesting statement, unfortunately itâ€™s not true. Abortion became legal long before â€œno-faultâ€ divorce. You seem to have the cart before the horse.
 
---â€œPro-liferâ€™s cannot win so long a marriage is unimportant in the eyes of women. 

Marriage is only unimportant in the eyes of some women, usually the same women who support abortion. Women who support marriage are invariably the same women who oppose abortion. Your statement makes absolutely no sense to me.
 
---â€œWhen we see a pro-marriage sign right next to every pro-life sign in front of every church, things will move forward for everyone. They need to be supporting us to the teeth.â€

We need to support a pro-life agenda because itâ€™s the right thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;â€œMerck, lots of FRâ€™s/MRMs oppose abortion. The problem is that the pro-life movement does not understand the fact that when marriage is important, abortion is not necessary.â€</p>
<p>Thatâ€™s an interesting statement, unfortunately itâ€™s not true. Abortion became legal long before â€œno-faultâ€ divorce. You seem to have the cart before the horse.</p>
<p>&#8212;â€œPro-liferâ€™s cannot win so long a marriage is unimportant in the eyes of women. </p>
<p>Marriage is only unimportant in the eyes of some women, usually the same women who support abortion. Women who support marriage are invariably the same women who oppose abortion. Your statement makes absolutely no sense to me.</p>
<p>&#8212;â€œWhen we see a pro-marriage sign right next to every pro-life sign in front of every church, things will move forward for everyone. They need to be supporting us to the teeth.â€</p>
<p>We need to support a pro-life agenda because itâ€™s the right thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: T Finnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Finnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please answer the question?  What if Biden becomes President?</description>
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		<title>By: David R. Usher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David R. Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merck, lots of FR&#039;s/MRMs oppose abortion.  The problem is that the pro-life movement does not understand the fact that when marriage is important, abortion is not necessary.

Pro-lifer&#039;s cannot win so long a marriage is unimportant in the eyes of women. 

When we see a pro-marriage sign right next to every pro-life sign in front of every church, things will move forward for everyone.

They need to be supporting us to the teeth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merck, lots of FR&#8217;s/MRMs oppose abortion.  The problem is that the pro-life movement does not understand the fact that when marriage is important, abortion is not necessary.</p>
<p>Pro-lifer&#8217;s cannot win so long a marriage is unimportant in the eyes of women. </p>
<p>When we see a pro-marriage sign right next to every pro-life sign in front of every church, things will move forward for everyone.</p>
<p>They need to be supporting us to the teeth.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger F. Gay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger F. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Maybe we would garner needed support, if we cared about more than ourselves.&lt;/i&gt;

OK, so being against evil is being selfish unless we vote the way you tell us to, or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Maybe we would garner needed support, if we cared about more than ourselves.</i></p>
<p>OK, so being against evil is being selfish unless we vote the way you tell us to, or what?</p>
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