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	<title>Comments on: Analysis: Why Same-Sex Marriage Bans Succeeded While Republicans Lost</title>
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		<title>By: David R. Usher</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/11/04/the-bright-spot-same-sex-marriage-bans-succeed/comment-page-1/#comment-77787</link>
		<dc:creator>David R. Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting quote from a Washington Post article agreeing with my analysis:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27584685/page/2/

&quot;I think it&#039;s unclear that the social conservatism would trump economics,&quot; said Arnold Steinberg, a Republican strategist in Los Angeles. &quot;Certainly with Latino voters there have been opportunities to market themselves on a socially conservative level.&lt;em&gt; But the Republican Party has been too bumbling and irresponsible to do anything with it.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting quote from a Washington Post article agreeing with my analysis:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27584685/page/2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27584685/page/2/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s unclear that the social conservatism would trump economics,&#8221; said Arnold Steinberg, a Republican strategist in Los Angeles. &#8220;Certainly with Latino voters there have been opportunities to market themselves on a socially conservative level.<em> But the Republican Party has been too bumbling and irresponsible to do anything with it.</em>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: David R. Usher</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/11/04/the-bright-spot-same-sex-marriage-bans-succeed/comment-page-1/#comment-77786</link>
		<dc:creator>David R. Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key is how 800-billion in federal funding is used to destroy heterosexual marriage.  Republicans failed to step up to this plate and find pro-marriage things to do instead -- things that in the end will result in drastically-reduced needs for reactive social spending that does not work.

Republicans have been losing seats incrementally in the House and Senate since they dropped social issues.  With each election cycle, the losses increased.  They barely won the presidency in 2000 and 2004.  Four years ago I predicted they would lose the presidency in 2008 if they failed to take up social issues. A number of biggies I work with agreed, but said the party is out of control and not listening.  Like I, they had to wait for the bad dream to come true.

Male homosexuals must come to grips with their own reality.  Homosexuality is not a healthy practice.  It kills many of them.  Homesexual men have 800% more sexual partners than heterosexual men do.  I have been to private gay parties and sadly watched the congregating parade of guys in and out of a packed bathroom (you do not ever see this happening at your average hetero party).  There is a sexual disorder there that PC feminists (including the APA) ignore, and instead elevate to pretend it is normal and even something warranting a right to destroy heterosexual marriage.  This is the reality of being a homosexual male.

Those who are addicted to mood altering chemicals such as pot, think that demanding rights avoids the realities.  Pot  causes substantial memory loss, brain damage, and substantially impaired motivation; with downstream impact on their families, society, traffic fatalities, and drives cross-drug addictions.   Most Americans instinctively understand this, and refuse to legitimize pot smoking in state initiatives, for the same reasons they approved bans on gay marriage.  We know that formalizing self-destructive behaviors only invites more people to fall into the trap.

Homosexual males hurt themselves tremendously by aligning with radical feminists to turn their disorder into a rationalized excuse for marriage.

There is evidence that a good number of men choose to go gay to avoid the very well known problems that accompany marrying a woman and then ending up cleaned out in a divorce with children.

I have a good number of gay male friends.  This is not something they like to discuss or agree with in public due to phantasmic peer (feminist) pressure to &quot;toe the political line&quot;. However, in private they often do agree with me.

In the long run, banning gay marriage is a very good thing for both hetero and homosexual men.  Fewer men will choose this very dangerous lifestyle.  More will work on their sexual disorders and heal from it (yes, sexual disorders are preventable and treatable).  Fewer men will take part in self-defeating behaviors.  More men will realize that it is truly OK to be a real man, and to fight for restoration of the legal and social value of marriage between men and women.

I want all men to succeed, and as few men as possible to end up dead or being shoved off the bottom rung of society as we know it.

30 states have enacted constitutional bans on same-sex marriage, despite heavy beration from feminists.   I truly hope that all men fully understand the meaning of this, and take it as a motivator to walk away from feminism and the self-destrucive behaviors it impresses on men, and to fight feminism as real men rather than succumb to the consequences of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key is how 800-billion in federal funding is used to destroy heterosexual marriage.  Republicans failed to step up to this plate and find pro-marriage things to do instead &#8212; things that in the end will result in drastically-reduced needs for reactive social spending that does not work.</p>
<p>Republicans have been losing seats incrementally in the House and Senate since they dropped social issues.  With each election cycle, the losses increased.  They barely won the presidency in 2000 and 2004.  Four years ago I predicted they would lose the presidency in 2008 if they failed to take up social issues. A number of biggies I work with agreed, but said the party is out of control and not listening.  Like I, they had to wait for the bad dream to come true.</p>
<p>Male homosexuals must come to grips with their own reality.  Homosexuality is not a healthy practice.  It kills many of them.  Homesexual men have 800% more sexual partners than heterosexual men do.  I have been to private gay parties and sadly watched the congregating parade of guys in and out of a packed bathroom (you do not ever see this happening at your average hetero party).  There is a sexual disorder there that PC feminists (including the APA) ignore, and instead elevate to pretend it is normal and even something warranting a right to destroy heterosexual marriage.  This is the reality of being a homosexual male.</p>
<p>Those who are addicted to mood altering chemicals such as pot, think that demanding rights avoids the realities.  Pot  causes substantial memory loss, brain damage, and substantially impaired motivation; with downstream impact on their families, society, traffic fatalities, and drives cross-drug addictions.   Most Americans instinctively understand this, and refuse to legitimize pot smoking in state initiatives, for the same reasons they approved bans on gay marriage.  We know that formalizing self-destructive behaviors only invites more people to fall into the trap.</p>
<p>Homosexual males hurt themselves tremendously by aligning with radical feminists to turn their disorder into a rationalized excuse for marriage.</p>
<p>There is evidence that a good number of men choose to go gay to avoid the very well known problems that accompany marrying a woman and then ending up cleaned out in a divorce with children.</p>
<p>I have a good number of gay male friends.  This is not something they like to discuss or agree with in public due to phantasmic peer (feminist) pressure to &#8220;toe the political line&#8221;. However, in private they often do agree with me.</p>
<p>In the long run, banning gay marriage is a very good thing for both hetero and homosexual men.  Fewer men will choose this very dangerous lifestyle.  More will work on their sexual disorders and heal from it (yes, sexual disorders are preventable and treatable).  Fewer men will take part in self-defeating behaviors.  More men will realize that it is truly OK to be a real man, and to fight for restoration of the legal and social value of marriage between men and women.</p>
<p>I want all men to succeed, and as few men as possible to end up dead or being shoved off the bottom rung of society as we know it.</p>
<p>30 states have enacted constitutional bans on same-sex marriage, despite heavy beration from feminists.   I truly hope that all men fully understand the meaning of this, and take it as a motivator to walk away from feminism and the self-destrucive behaviors it impresses on men, and to fight feminism as real men rather than succumb to the consequences of it.</p>
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		<title>By: MartianBachelor</title>
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		<dc:creator>MartianBachelor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; It also marks the collapse of the Republican Party as it
&gt; was.  There will be a massive purge of party machine heads

I don&#039;t quite see the picture in such drastic, black and white terms. Basically, Bush `04 got 62 million votes and McCain&#039;s total will be about 56 million, when the numbers become final. Kerry &#039;04 got 59 million and Obama should end up a little north of 63 million (63.2 right now).

The way you get from one set of numbers to another is to suppose that 2 million Bush &#039;04 voters stayed home this time, and another 4 million switched sides.  Of the roughly 120 million total voters, these 4 million represent just one in thirty voters. This was enough to flip states that were a few points red in `04 to states that were a few points blue in `08.  The voting population was much as it has been in recent history, and some 95+% voted just about as they did four (and eight) years ago. This suggests any changes were slight and incremental, even as they collectively caused things to cross some &quot;tipping point&quot;.

I&#039;d guess many of the 4 million switchers were independent/swing voters without much if any allegiance to either party, or to politics in general. Their votes simply could have been flipped by the state of the times we&#039;re in, the media bias in favor of Obama, that from the start of the race nearly two years ago the big issue went from the war in Iraq to the economy, etc.

Not that I disagree with the general thinking in the article. If the D&#039;s are blatantly going to target and pander to women, ethnic minorities, and gays/lesbians, it would seem the R&#039;s have to strengthen their appeal to men, whites, and heterosexuals -- the three groups which are not allowed these days to have any sort of pride festivals (meaning it would be a very treacherous course to chart).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; It also marks the collapse of the Republican Party as it<br />
&gt; was.  There will be a massive purge of party machine heads</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t quite see the picture in such drastic, black and white terms. Basically, Bush `04 got 62 million votes and McCain&#8217;s total will be about 56 million, when the numbers become final. Kerry &#8216;04 got 59 million and Obama should end up a little north of 63 million (63.2 right now).</p>
<p>The way you get from one set of numbers to another is to suppose that 2 million Bush &#8216;04 voters stayed home this time, and another 4 million switched sides.  Of the roughly 120 million total voters, these 4 million represent just one in thirty voters. This was enough to flip states that were a few points red in `04 to states that were a few points blue in `08.  The voting population was much as it has been in recent history, and some 95+% voted just about as they did four (and eight) years ago. This suggests any changes were slight and incremental, even as they collectively caused things to cross some &#8220;tipping point&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d guess many of the 4 million switchers were independent/swing voters without much if any allegiance to either party, or to politics in general. Their votes simply could have been flipped by the state of the times we&#8217;re in, the media bias in favor of Obama, that from the start of the race nearly two years ago the big issue went from the war in Iraq to the economy, etc.</p>
<p>Not that I disagree with the general thinking in the article. If the D&#8217;s are blatantly going to target and pander to women, ethnic minorities, and gays/lesbians, it would seem the R&#8217;s have to strengthen their appeal to men, whites, and heterosexuals &#8212; the three groups which are not allowed these days to have any sort of pride festivals (meaning it would be a very treacherous course to chart).</p>
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		<title>By: jjtaup</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjtaup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are we going to rebuild anything in a country of dolts? Good government depends upon good people, and the schools and universities have spent the last several decades melting down the moral order. I don&#039;t see anyone rushing to close down these public sewers--in fact, just the opposite. People are still very excited to send their sons and daughters to have an educational lobotomy.

People are really too stupid to govern themselves. They simply can&#039;t handle freedom. They&#039;re very much like the dumb fishes I see swimming by the bucketful in a few cubic feet of water at the market before their heads are smashed for someone&#039;s dinner. Only, unlike the fishes, they gladly swim into the tank on their own.

We have a constitution. Neither the congress nor the president nor the judiciary pays much attention to it. The current generation needs some very hard lessons before anything resembling truth makes its way into their drugged semi-consciousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are we going to rebuild anything in a country of dolts? Good government depends upon good people, and the schools and universities have spent the last several decades melting down the moral order. I don&#8217;t see anyone rushing to close down these public sewers&#8211;in fact, just the opposite. People are still very excited to send their sons and daughters to have an educational lobotomy.</p>
<p>People are really too stupid to govern themselves. They simply can&#8217;t handle freedom. They&#8217;re very much like the dumb fishes I see swimming by the bucketful in a few cubic feet of water at the market before their heads are smashed for someone&#8217;s dinner. Only, unlike the fishes, they gladly swim into the tank on their own.</p>
<p>We have a constitution. Neither the congress nor the president nor the judiciary pays much attention to it. The current generation needs some very hard lessons before anything resembling truth makes its way into their drugged semi-consciousness.</p>
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