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I don’t think there should even be an argument over such a fundamental Constitutional issue. Obama should have to produce the required documentation or step aside … period.

If at anytime during his Presidency he is found not to be a citizen, then everything he does as President will be illegal, null and void.

…except that he was not “born in wedlock” at all.

At the time of their marriage (B. O., Sr. to S. A. D.) he was still legally married to a Kenyan woman, whom he had simply abandoned.
Even if he later divorced this woman (and we have no reason to believe that this happened) the marriage between Obama’s parents is VOID AB INITIO (never happened, zero, legal value = null).
Under certain circumstances, another marriage (subsequent to the termination of the Kenyan marriage) may legitimize his birth – but we have no claim that this ever happened.
In summary:
A. his parents were never married at all.
B. he was not born “in wedlock”, and therefore may not claim citizenship on this basis.
C. unless some other claim be made successfully he is not a citizen.

when that Constitution becomes….??????

It’s already been shredded.

Obama probably isn’t eligible to be POTUS, but that won’t change anything. Nothing short of armed insurrection could change anything, and that ain’t gonna happen.

Goodbye America. Some of us will miss you very much. The rest will wonder what happened.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm

B) The Hawaiian govt’ officials NEVER stated that Obama was born in Hawaii. They only stated that they have seen his birth certificate on file. But a B.C. from where?? (see #1 above).

On October 31, 2008, Dr Chiyome Fukino, Department of Health:
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

For the Hawaiian ‘Policies and Procedures’ she refereed to…see item #1 above which, again, affords foreign born babies to obtain a Hawaiian COLB.
Legally, the Hawaiian Governor & the Dpt of Health official merely stated fact based on their own laws. One can obviously see that a Kenyan B.C. from 1961 would be legal and valid per Hawaiian law. This would also allow Obama to obtain a U.S. Passport.

C) Examples of Hawaiian Long Form COLB’s:
1963 Hawaiian Long Form COLB:
http://a5.vox.com/6a00c2252293c4604a0100a80270e5000e-pi
1962 Hawaiian Long Form COLB:
http://passportsusa.com/wp-content/gallery/passportusa/edith_front.jpg

Obviously, what the Obama camp has released looks nothing like those two Hawaiian COLB’s from that time. Where’s his?

D) If it’s proven Obama was indeed foreign born (Kenya), He would NOT have received U.S. citizenship based, only, on his mother’s citizenship status. Per U.S. law at the time of his birth (December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986).
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock:
“For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.”

http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html

Note that the law only pertains to ‘Citizenship’, and not ‘Natural Born’ Citizen. There is a difference. Governor Schwarzenegger from Ca. is a citizen, yet he could not be POTUS because he isn’t a Natural Born citizen. He’s a Naturalized citizen.

Obama’s mother didn’t give birth to him at 19 (14 + 5). Therefore, Obama could not obtain U.S. citizenship based only by virtue his mother’s citizenship.

E) And then there is the dual citizenship issue (which could make the above totally irrelevant). Factcheck themselves state that Obama was indeed a British subject and did in fact hold dual citizenship AT Birth.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html
“In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen … and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC)”

So even IF he was indeed born in Hawaii (would be easy for him to prove but hasn’t so far), Obama could therefore not be a Natural Born citizen because Natural Born citizens can not hold dual citizenship at birth. It has to do with the potential for divided loyalties and the very reason the
writers of the Constitution themselves allowed for their exception (grandfathered in) because all of them were British Subjects at birth.

He might be a “Naturalized” Citizen, but there is nothing (to date) in the public sector to suggest he is a ‘Natural Born” Citizen, the Constitution clearly requires for one to become POTUS.

F) Without question, the Secretary of State of New Jersey (& possibly other SoS’s) did NOT do their job in making sure the presidential candidates (including Obama) were qualified and eligible to be on their states’ ballot.

Why?

How would the SoS from NJ explain that Roger Calero was on their ballet as a candidate?

Socialist Workers Party candidate Roger Calero isn’t even a U.S. citizen (Naturalized OR Natural Born), yet appeared on NJ’s presidential ballot.

Calero was also allowed on the state ballot in: Delaware, Minnesota, New York and Vermont.

Calero is a permanent resident alien (holding a green card).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B3ger_Calero

Note: Not in any particular order. Simply, points of fact and information.

I too looked into changing my last name back to my original, sometimes thinking about a heritage legacy thing. Obama changed his name to suit the identity he wanted. I probably won’t change my name as I would not hurt my dad’s feelings (you can call him stepfather).

Obama has access to the actual BC when he was born under whatever name that was.

Upon his adoption by his mother’s second husband Obama’s original BC was sealed as his old identity no longer existed in the eyes of the law.

His adoption in Indonesia created a huge paper trail between two countries, the State of Hawaii and local government where is stepfather lived. He was issued a new BC and both governments created records of equal value and weight in term of his new identity under the law.

His mother would have to present his original BC for the adoption to take place. Where are those copies?

Was the BC with is new identity Barry Sotero issued by Indonesia? Where is that new BC with Lolo listed as his father?

Upon Barry Sotero’s return to the US he reached the age of emancipation and changed his name to Barack Obama.

When did he do that? What was the legal process? He would have to notify multiple government agencies and this would have cost a tidy sum.

This process does not change your BC of adoption. In this case Barry Sotero. It only changes your name as you are not being adopted by anyone and the government is not developing a legal document of lawful parentage.

You are changing your name only.

Here is the rub, the copy of the BC you are seeing online is or could be issued to valid BC holders and might be the short form in lieu of a deep record search.

In other words the BC is a fraud. In order for Barack Obama to show a BC that contains his name of Barack Obama and his father and mother as we know it, the state of Hawaii would only have a long form document.

Barack Obama has access to his original BC before he was born but it is no longer valid. He can present either the short form, which many of us have seen or present the long form but they are not valid.

You… cannot change your adoption records or the alteration of those records for the purpose of adoption.

You can call yourself John Wayne and even legally change your name. But, your birth certificate will still say you are Marion Robert Morrison, born in Iowa, blah, blah, blah.

We can participate in the process or intellectualize about it on the blogs, it’s up to us to make things happen. I find it hard to believe that people, either Democrat or Republican, would want this to happen to our country.

The major lawsuit to this point was brought by a Democrat. What a sorry excuse for a political party the Republicans have become. If it’s the death of the Republican Party they had it coming if they don’t stand up and fight this usurpation.

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