Feminist Hillary Clinton Hoist on Her Own Moral Petard

Who made up the heading, “Is it time to abort feminism?”

I do feel sorry for Hillary. Sometimes I think I am insane and other times I think I am better as an MRA than online men.

Yep, that’ll piss off a whole lot of so called gentlemen. lol

But, the answer is ‘NO!” It is not time to abort feminism.

If I had one wish that could be granted I wouldn’t ask for riches or a certain husband. (as some might ask for a certain wife)

I’d ask that the men’s movement started getting serious and learn about things that matter like, “How the system works”.

There is a reason women do the things the way they do. God knows they already know it is devious and sexist.

Men need to convince their own men who are already in this instead of saying, “We understand that feminism basically holds up a whole system but we don’t care. We want revenge and we couldn’t care less how much society is helped through women, we just want to stand proud and say, I am man and the rest of the word can get stuffed”.

To all men out there, the world is a creepy, sad and bad place. The system is not run by women even though they wish to god is was.

What are men doing to help men? What are men wanting for men? What about the friggin MEN? Helloooooo, a men’s movement should be about men!!!!!!

Well, it seems I have the floor. Well, I am a feminist and I am a bitch. So sad, too bad. I know the meaning of my life doesn’t evolve around what men think of me. Soooo what that the hay. I have started so I may as well finish my bitch.

C’mon guys, don’t be nice to me because I am not going to be nice to you.

I was born a feminist I have been outspoken since I was a child. Yet I have never met a man who doesn’t respect me for getting off my bottom and doing what needs to be done. Life didn’t give me roses although many men have given me flowers. I just love flowers. I could sit all day just smelling them. Mmmm they are soooo yummy.

But every man is far more special than flowers. You think you are innocent. Well, you are innocent.

Young men who go to prison for 10 years or more because he got into a gang and stabbed someone and comes out at 25 or 30 or older is special. He lost his growing up time. But men can’t get the funding to help these awesome men who have no hope to be treated like normal citizens. They just have to be a bad guy because that is the only choice available to them. Say hello to your pimps and drug dealers.

YOU, all of YOU can help. It is YOU … all of YOU that stops the men’s movement. You’ve been doing it for so long now that you don’t even understand what you are doing any more.

Instead of sitting behind a computer bitching about the world, why don’t you support your brothers who give a sh*t. Support your DOCTORS who care about men’s health. Support your brothers who have worked hard earning sh*t money to become Criminologists because they want to help men. Support the men who are CEOs of charity groups. Even Hillary commented how there are more males than females who are CEOs of charity groups in America.
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Look, I have full respect for men who go to school to become doctors of things. It looks damn good to have all these letters beside your name and you can help lots of people by standing beside them as a DR.

But just, like, just …. care. That’s all you have to do is just care. You know like, listen now and then instead of thinking only your voice matters. Your voice does matter but so does everyone else’s.

Open the flood gates, men. Let the men do what needs to be done. Don’t hold your brothers back. Care for others instead of yourself. You can move so much more when you care for someone else.

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You’d think I was condemning the online men’s movement. Well, I am. The men’s movement hasn’t got off the ground because half of it doesn’t want change. But the cost to not want change is harming men. It’s friggin killing them by the day.

Women are NOT, I repeat, NOT, going to fix this for men. Every woman that stands up for men in the community is shut down because men must do this alone. It is men’s journey. It is up to men.

Anyhoo, what is the men’s movement? A political group? An anti feminist group?

No wonder you are an enemy of progress.

Anyhow, I have had my moan and whinge. I will work with feminists if I have to because at least behind closed doors and out of the eyes of politicians and the media they help men. It is all hush because it has to be. But YOU make it this way. The number one MRM site in the world is too busy trying to destroy women, it hasn’t got time to give a sh*t about MEN.

PS. I am a bitch. And I am damn proud of it.

Your column is immature, but then look what I’m reading – “Men’s News Daily?” Yeah right – like I would believe YOU about abortion and feminism and Hillary Clinton.

Perhaps when YOU take responsibility for where you stick it and HOW you’ll PAY for it – then you can comment on whether or not feminism and abortion should or shouldn’t be left up to women.

Seems like all i see on TV is erectile dysfuntion commercials to help YOU get it up more. Why is THAT okay? For every one of these commercials we should insist that contraceptive commercials play doubly.

What does Hillary Clinton have to do with all this anyway? She is simply one of millions of women who believe in a woman’s right to choose. She agrees with the LAW, in case you forgot – it is LEGAL to receive an abortion in this country.

But perhaps Amfortas would only be happy if ALL women were barefoot, bore babies and stayed in the kitchen.

Good luck with that.

@Julie: “Who made up the heading, “Is it time to abort feminism?”

I did. My comments, preceeding a ‘Spectator’ article, are less about women and men, Jools, than about morals and the effects on mind of holding self-cancelling stances. Abortion is a man’s issue as well as a woman’s. Human. I do not want to tell the world to ‘get stuffed’. I am aware it is not ‘run by women’.

You recommend that we (MRAs) ask how the system works. It is not the only relevant question. This article simply asks pertinent questions about killing the unborn and the barely born. It points out the moral vacuum that is feminism. But I am glad to see it rattled your cage. Let us see if creepy things come out of the woodwork.

Amfortas, do you know what I would like from the online more than anything?

Answer: Men who have been there.

I think I know more about men that have suffered from an abortion than any MRA online. That is sooooo sad.

Why is abortion an issue to men it has no personal effect on?

I’ll tell you about one young man I know. He is just a darling and don’t worry, I get told off by men for being so motherly to young men. lol

So OK, he is a young man. He went to the altra sounds and saw his baby. He went to the store and looked at baby stuff.

But he came home one day after work (at 19 years of age) to hear his girlfriend say she aborted their baby at 4 months. He was devastated. But that is not all she did. He came home a few days later and saw her in bed with a male from her work.

And he stabbed him in the face.

Our young sweet beautiful male who is an islander and stood for all the good things we all could expect of a young man was about to go to prison because his heart could only take so much.

Why is it that the MRM cannot touch males like this? Is it because they don’t condemn the women they know who had it hard in life? Is it that maybe he MRM is made up of older men who just want to judge young people yet they can’t even remember what it was like to walk in the shoes of the young?

Amfortas, which woman aborted YOUR BABY? Because if no woman did this to you personally, you can’t judge another man or woman who faces this.

Hi moderator, can I not be allowed to comment today. I am not with things at the moment. Maybe I might ask to never comment but for now just today is good for me.

It doesn’t make any sense to allow abortion for almost any reason but ban it for sex selection. If abortion is a “right,” then it is a “right” regardless of the motivation of the pregnant girl or woman who wants to become unpregnant.
Girls and women may get abortions for a plethora of reasons that are anathema to feminists. For example, they may abort because they don’t want to have babies outside of wedlock — a reason that should be abhorrent to radical feminists and other radicals who think marriage is an “oppressive” relationship. They may abort because of the wishes of a husband or boyfriend — a reason abhorrent to those who see is as oppressive for women to “submit” to the wishes of men. They may abort because they are not yet in a position to become stay-at-home moms — a reason abhorrent to those who see full-time homemaking as an oppressive occupation. Heck, it’s quite possible that the majority of abortions are done for reasons that are anathema to radical feminists (and perhaps other radicals)!

But is it not the American male population that agreed with absolute female empowerment and the femalisation of society by feminism.

A pox and shame on those males of such society in that case.

You really think Hillary is stating something disagreable. But the majority accept it and encourage it. How is that ?

@ Julie. No one has aborted a baby of mine, as far as I know. But to even consider that the issue as nothing to do with me is an affront. I haven’t been murdered but I have a view on murder being wrong.

“Ask not for whom the bell tolls”.

The MRM does consider the plight of men of the situation you describe. Why can the MRM ‘not touch’ this chap, you ask? Give me his details and I will write to him.

As for my ‘judging’, I can and do – and have a human duty to do – in a general sense. Moral Judgement is an adult attribute. It is only the feminists and the rank stupid that hold that we ‘mustn’t judge’.

In the specific, I am usually a most reasonable man and would understand the extreme situations people find themselves in. But that neither means condemning every abortion not condoning them. Nor having the decision soley in one person’s hands. Fathers matter. I generally do not ‘Judge’ the person, but their actions. I leave God to ‘Judge’ the person.

In Hilary’s case it is my intellectual judgement that she has adopted a stance which is morally bankrupt and my professional judgement that she is psychotic – albeit still functioning. But then so was Adolph Hitler who had a swag of excuses and ‘reasons’ for his murderous activities.

One point I didn’t make, that I will make here, is that I hope that this small hiccup in her thinking leads to a recovery of her moral compass.

“Your column is immature, but then look what I’m reading – “Men’s News Daily?” Yeah right – like I would believe YOU about abortion and feminism and Hillary Clinton.”

So men’s opinions are invalid automatically. I see.

Julie-
The MRM is about protecting men from a system that sees us as nothing more than being economic producers.

My mother was a Feminist like you also, and hated men because the Feminist movement convinced her that her problems where the fault of men instead of her own bad choices. Growing up, me and my brother heard all about the evils of men. Thank your movement for my psychological scars.

@Amfortas, I didn’t think I sent comment no.2. It was what was on my mind but I thought it was not going to show.

But look, I just had a major bitch yesterday.

I just want to apologise for saying I think I do more than online men because I know especially in NZ men online are activists and advocates for men in the family court.

Today is a new day and although there is no-one to take men I will try again to help a man I couldn’t even go near yesterday because my stomach was too weak and I just kept gagging to throw up.

This is not for me.

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You have done well with the community work you have done over the years but I think it takes special people to care for others.

I’ve just got to find somewhere to refer men. There must be women somewhere who are able to get funding and volunteers to take care of men in need.

One woman made a multi million dollar building for homeless men. She must have a place to send men that can’t take care of themselves.

Feminism gives out resources. Until men can and will have all the things men need available to them, this is the best we have got.

I need to move on Amfortas. I have faith men will do what is right for men. I don’t even mid really men having a go at women if it helps them get through life. It’s all good if the outcome is good.

“Else why would Secretary Clinton be as upset with those who abort baby girls as with those who put newborn girls out to die?”

She is upset because the NWO Agenda is to cull back the males because the females are easier to manage. You will be aware that to be dragged off to a gulag and worked to death in Russia was a mostly (99%+) male priviledge because it is the MEN who are likely to fight the oppression. Women never risk their lives for anything.

If you go to the UNs web site and read about Agenda 21 you will find in it “The role of women in Agenda 21″ and “The role of men in Agenda 21″. But you will not find “The role of men in Agenda 21″. If you read the UNs web site you will see lots of times where they talk about ‘women and children’ and the men are conspicuous by their absence. Hilliary Clinton is merely one more ‘mouthpiece’ for the NWO. She recently gave a speech at the Council on Foreign Relations where she talked about the ‘mothership in NYC’, aka the UN, and ‘to be told what we should be doing’.

The clip was here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQQPXxFu6JM but the NWO have made sure it got ‘removed’. Shows you pretty much exactly what is going on. Hillary makes a slip and they edit it out of you tube and call it a ‘terms of use violation’…ha, ha, ha. So I just looked around and found another copy of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPl_ynr5jJ8

Why do you men think your Secretary of State might admit to taking orders from the CFR?

So now….they are not happy with the idea that women prefer to have boys than girls. The reason women want boys is because the woman knows that it is more likely that the boy will care for her in her old age. Now that the technology exists to allow a woman to select to have a boy than a girl the NWO is not happy. You can look to them starting to demonise women who abort girls.

julie Says:
“I am a feminist”
Julie. Then you are a programmed drone, a useful idiot, of a powerful group of men who are moving forward with their plan for a New World Order that will enslave all the people of the world in a micro-chipped and controlled society that is going to make Communist Russia look like a picnic. Only problem is, you are too stupid to know this. Good luck. You are going to need it. No man is going to defend you when the come for you to give you your ‘vaccination’.

julie Says:
“Why is abortion an issue to men it has no personal effect on?”

Gents, read that comment closely. This is your typical feminist who thinks that if a moral issue has not personally affected you that you shouldn’t be concerned with it. This is how self centered these women are. It is just like saying that murdering a woman is ok just as long as it is not YOUR woman.

What feminists don’t understand is that men have morals and principles. We have honour and integrity. Feminists don’t understand these concepts because they don’t have them. They are amoral. No immoral…A-moral. They practice the religion of ‘self-divinity’ by which they think that whatever they say is true, no evidence needed, and whatever they say is right, is right.

Kill Babies? Yeah…cool…let’s do that. Commit perjury in court? Yeah cool, let’s do that, after all, it is only a mans life we are destroying and they don’t count. Interfer with the mans inalienable right to raise his child? Yeah, cool, let’s do that.

This is how feminists ‘think’. Of course, they don’t actually think, they can’t. They just swallow what they are told by their programmers like Germain Greer and crew.

All you need to do to persuade a woman to a point of view is repeat the message often enough. Reason and logic not needed. The Illuminati know this…which is why misandry is pervasive in the media. It’s the programming of women to hate men and to laugh at them when women kill, injure, or otherwise abuse men. Julie is a good example of this kind of hatred.

Globalman,

***”Julie. Then you are a programmed drone, a useful idiot, of a powerful group of men who are moving forward with their plan for a New World Order that will enslave all the people of the world in a micro-chipped and controlled society that is going to make Communist Russia look like a picnic.”***

I doubt that. Feminism has nothing to do with tagging everyone. That’s just business. And besides, New Zealand is more of a trial country. We tagged our dogs the very day America passed the law to tag their humans. Many major companies insist on tagging and so does the military in America.

Our councils are looking forward to it but they are run by men. I am hoping feminists fight that. I know some cultures will be.

***”This is your typical feminist who thinks that if a moral issue has not personally affected you that you shouldn’t be concerned with it.”***

You can’t have a typical feminist. Canada is the headquarters internationally and yet the women who attend from other countries are appalled at the extreme. Feminists are not as stupid as men make out.

Many times feminists are put in certain positions deliberately because of the way they are. Me, well, I seem to have been given a free run so far and have not been pulled in (yet). But if I was about to really damage things I am sure walls will be knocking me about.

Also, a feminist can complain about another feminist. In fact, it is not an unknown thing to rearrange women so that they are not interfering in another’s work.

As for morals, well, that’s ridiculous. Morals are selective. I personally have had the choice and the encourage to abort a baby but I declined. My body, my choice. I consider a woman who doesn’t want an abortion while the father does to be allowed to follow her moral choice and yet I can’t yet decide whether the father’s right to not be involved should over ride the child’s right to know the father.

****What feminists don’t understand is that men have morals and principles. We have honour and integrity.****

Oh, please give me a break. Men are no different than women when it comes to this sort of thing. Selective choosing is what men and women do.

Who is more moral? The man who fights in a war for his countrymen and women and children’s freedom or the man who doesn’t believe war is ever the answer?

Who is more moral? The man who realises he is too busy and too into himself and too young to take on the responsibility of a child so he wants his girlfriend to have an abortion or the woman who is too busy and too into herself and too young to take on the responsibility of a child?

Or are the both wrong because religion is what is moral?

And if religion is moral then is it OK for radical Muslims to honour kill women? Whose honour is right among men?

You have a lot of work to do before you can claim you are superior. Is it moral to pay taxes or it is immoral? How many men are moral if YOUR way of thinking is the right way and how do you intend to teach all men how to live the ‘Globalman’s” moral way?

Is it moral to fuck and chuck? If it is then what is the principle behind that? What is the moral principle for the children born from the fuck and chuck?

@Julie: ” I didn’t think I sent comment no.2. It was what was on my mind but I thought it was not going to show. But look, I just had a major bitch yesterday. ”

Accidentally sending a message when it is incomplete, I can understand. But frankly, Julie, I have seen many a fine piece from you with cogent and thoughtful consideration of issues; and a whole lot of really poorly considered ‘major bitches’ against this or that that you later aplogise for in this self-absolving manner of yours. You wax hot and cold and do not seem to excercise any discipline over yourself.

Despite that I admire a great deal of the work that you do in NZ on behalf of men. But I am also mindful though that your loose cannon can fire lumps of burning metal into the ranks of your friends.

@Amfortas, no worries about your view of me.

I am stranger than you know.

@amfortas, if you are going to show my bad side then please let all my comments through. I know deep down I don’t respect the MRM and it shows when I bitch but at least let others challenge my challenge. They will get good practice.

Julie-

I find you flakey. Intelligence combined with irrationality is no better than plain old irrationality.

Actually, I take that back. It is far worse.

Author: julie

***”Julie. Then you are a programmed drone, a useful idiot, of a powerful group of men who are moving forward with their plan for a New World Order that will enslave all the people of the world in a micro-chipped and controlled society that is going to make Communist Russia look like a picnic.”***

“I doubt that.”
Then line up for your swine flu vaccination. Good luck, you are going to need it. I have only ever met one woman capable of decent logical thought, and she was thoroughly programmed. If you want to read and educate yourself go to http://www.henrymakow.com.

“Feminists are not as stupid as men make out.”
Want to bet?

“Men are no different than women when it comes to this sort of thing.(honour, integrity, morals)”
Want to bet? Women are amoral now. And likely they have always been this way.

How many women have you seen protesting the womans pass for perjury in court? How many woman have you seen protesting the abuse of men in FC and the high suicide rate of men in divorce. How many women have you seen rebuke women who kidnap a mans children and interfere with his inalienable right to parent his own child? Very, very, very few. You want respect? Earn it. You women have certainly earn the dis-respect in which you are now held.

Face it Juile. Men have died in their millions to protect the women and children. Women have now abused 100M men through the UN sponsored biased FCs. Me included. It is the responsibility of your ‘sistas’ that men like me take the default position that all feminised women are amoral, dis-honourable, with no integrity. After the war dead, currently 98% male, is balanced out to 51% female, maybe then we will give you a seat at the table to even talk. Until then? Go play with your cats. You are irrelevant to the battle at hand. If we win the battle at hand women will lose all property rights, voting rights, and maternity rights. You have shown you can not be trusted with these important rights. Women will be third class citizens as they are in Russia for the same reason. Men like me are not ‘hostile’ to feminised women. We are indifferent to you. You want to take that and tell a few of your feminist friends this is how millions of men are thinking of them now?

@ Globalman,

I didn’t think what I wrote would come through so I wasn’t expecting an answer from you.

You say, ..

****”You are irrelevant to the battle at hand. If we win the battle at hand women will lose all property rights, voting rights, and maternity rights. You have shown you can not be trusted with these important rights. Women will be third class citizens as they are in Russia for the same reason. Men like me are not ‘hostile’ to feminised women. We are indifferent to you. You want to take that and tell a few of your feminist friends this is how millions of men are thinking of them now?”***

I say ..

Nah , I won’t be telling anyone anything. Just do what you want. I’d say good luck but since you are superior, there is no need.