Top Ten Feminist Myths

2009-12-05
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10. Society values men higher than women.
Men have traditionally been the norm in society, but women’s lives have been valued higher (women and children first…). So all in all you cannot claim that society values men higher than women.

9. Girls are shortchanged in schools.
Boys are the ones underperforming in schools, and female students dominate colleges and universities. How can this mean that girls are being shortchanged?

8. Women work two jobs, men only one.
Men and women work the same number of hours every week in developed countries, when you add up paid and unpaid work. People often forget that many domestic chores are considered to be male chores.

7. Domestic violence means a man hitting a woman.
Extensive research shows that men and women are just as likely to hit each other within intimate relationships. Domestic violence is thus a two-way street. Women do get hurt more, and women are more often afraid, but that is due to men’s greater physical strength and not because of the frequency of assaults.

6. Women earn less money for the same job, which is terribly unfair.
Warren Farell has shown that men and women earn the same money for the same job, when you control for 25 important variables. A large study performed in Sweden failed to find any systematic pay discrimination of women, even though that was the goal of the study.

5. Men oppress women in third world countries.
Women can certainly face a lack of rights in third world countries, which is deplorable. However, men face dangerous jobs and military conflicts, and can also have very few rights. These human and gendered hardships are due to the division of labor, not because of any intrinsic urge to oppress either women or men.

4. Men dominate women through human sexuality.
This belief is the linchpin of radical feminism. However, women are usually the sexual selectors, since women only have a limited number of eggs during a lifetime, while men have an almost unlimited number of sperms. So how can human sexuality be a sign of male dominance?

3. Men dominate women by saying that a woman’s place is in the home.
Men working outside the home and women working in the home was the result of needing to produce food effectively, for example during the stone age or during agrarian agriculture. Now that we have industrialized nations with a surplus of food, women have the same access to the labor market as men.

2. Men create wars.
Nations or tribes go to war, and very often this is supported by both sexes. In democracies such as the US, troops are still sent away to fight, even though the majority of voters are women. So how can men be the ones who create wars? What remains the same though, is that men are the ones who do almost all of the fighting.

1. The male gender role is more privileged than the female gender role.
Each gender role has its own unique set of challenges, and it doesn’t make much sense to compare who has it worse. The reason people believe that women are worse off is because feminism is the only source of knowledge for most people when it comes to gender roles, and feminism only speaks about female issues, while conveniently forgetting to mention all the important men’s issues.

0. Can we please get a sane discussion on gender issues going?
As long as we’re blaming men for everything we’re never going to get any constructive work done; work that can help both sexes.

Pelle Billing is an M.D. who writes and lectures about men’s issues and gender liberation beyond feminism.

  • PT

    One myth about women that I grew up with was that they were more virtuous than men. They always had so much to complain about when it came to men, so obviously men must have been the guilty provocateurs they were portrayed to be. Then I grew up… and became a man myself only to find that the women (mostly older female relatives) who propagated this myth were antagonistic themselves. Of course, when they, in their own ways, began to aim their guns at me (because I am now a man), I realize that they grossly overstated whatever may have happened between themselves and their mates (of the few that remained with them).

    I grew up… and found my image of women utterly shattered. Having been in relationships with women and a marriage that is now on the brink of divorce because I have a wife that is completely unreasonable and disturbingly unwilling to see her role in destroying the marriage, I recognize that virtue is not inherent in gender. Virtue is a matter of character, educated by a moral code (such as the Bible), and proven over time. Being what I thought was the right gender was no automatic bestowal of virtue.

    Last point: I am glad to have matured into a healthy masculine manhood. The fact that I was deceived about virtue as part of the female gender, I spent much of my youth hating and at odds unnecessarily against fellow males. I was never homosexual, but I loathed my own gender for being less civilized and morally inferior to women. It is a shame, but thank God that I have come to realize the truth.

    (For the record, I do not hold that males are superior to women. Virtue really is an individual accomplishment for the conscientious, regardless of gender.)

  • Bruno

    “7. Domestic violence means a man hitting a woman.
    Extensive research shows that men and women are just as likely to hit each other within intimate relationships.”

    But Domestic Violence should also include violence against children: the majority here is mother-towards-boy.

    And also violence against the elderly: the majority here is daughter-towards-father.

  • Paladin

    What we need is hundreds of sites like this one, to counter the ridiculous, one-sided propaganda of “feminists”. Everything you say in your list of myths is correct, according to my experience and study of the issue. You might also add that men are punished more harshly than women for the same crimes, that men are under far greater pressure to make money than women are, that the job of “housewife” is a lot easier and more pleasant than most jobs men do and that women had virtually all of the legal rights of men prior to the kickoff of modern feminism. Since the 60′s, women have fought not for the right to do something (which they already had), but for “equality” of representation, pay, or status. There were, however, sound reasons why women did not possess that kind of equality and excellent reasons why it could not simply be given to them. It is high time men start to repel feminist propaganda point for point.

  • AlotWiserNow

    What in heaven’s name was Adam thinking when he asked the Almighty for a mate (without any guarantee of being defect-free)? Apparently, he didn’t know how well off he was. Free food for the rest of his eternal life, a virtual paradise in which to reside, tame animals of all species and a stress & democrat-free environment. Hindsight dictates he would like to have his rib back! As of N.O.W. (pun intended) young males who watch Sesame Street should pay special attention to Oscar the grouch and ask why he lives on the street in a trash barrel? More or less, the same fate will befall many of the young males watching Sesame street (astronomical child support, being run out of one’s home in order to make room for a new boyfriend and parental alienation etc.

  • http://avoiceformen.com/ Paul Elam

    @ Jaime

    Actually it is whoever is in power, regardless of sex. e.g. Margaret Thatcher, Indira Ghandi, Golda Mier, Cleopatra, and any number of female European monarchs.

    You can also look to how the majority of women in congress have voted to fund wars for as long as women have been in office.

    And we already know from her own words that if Hillary had been elected we would still be in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Women wage war for certain, they just aren’t compelled to fight in them.

  • Jaime

    “2. Men create wars.
    Nations or tribes go to war, and very often this is supported by both sexes. In democracies such as the US, troops are still sent away to fight, even though the majority of voters are women. So how can men be the ones who create wars? What remains the same though, is that men are the ones who do almost all of the fighting.”

    Who makes the decisions to go to war?
    A female president?

  • Jay Riggs

    > Guys, if you have a sweet little lady that knows the meaning of being a “lady” and not a mere woman, cherish and keep her. She will be a rare commodity in the future; more precious than anything you could ever own in this world.

    Great advice, GYOD. I’ve been doing it for coming up on 30 years!

    As for feminists, I agree that one can not reason with someone who rejects facts and rationality. Disparagement, mockery, and scorn work well, though. For far too long have feminists been able to preface every male-bashing remark with, “I believe I can say without fear of contradiction that … “!

  • GetYourOwnDoor

    8. Personally I have worked two and three jobs to make ends meet.

    7. Some women crave physical abuse. I know it doesn’t sound right but I have seen it with my own eyes. They will cajole and verbally harass their men until they raise a hand. I don’t understand it.

    6. Let’s not forget that women call in sick more often than men and that they have been more litigious than men. With the chick-a-fication of our society men are learning to be more like women and are thus catching up. Also, some corporations feel the need to use unofficial quotas with respect to sex and gender to fill job openings. This is to diversify and make the organization “look” like America – not about who is best qualified.

    4. Actually if you’re over 40 and looking at the current generation (20-30 something) there are an incredible number of highly promiscuous women in our culture. Chastity is not revered or expected. I would hazard a guess that the tables have turned and women are becoming sexual predators in their own right. Thanks feminism.

    3. I wince at the thought of what grandmothers will be like 40 yrs from now. Thanksgiving microwave dinners, advice on how best to trap a man through sex, perhaps even some nostalgic sex tapes from the younger days to share with the kids. More advice on slamming a shot of Yeager Mister without flinching, how to prep for the inevitable abortion, how to check the package on a frozen burrito, how to hold your nose if a man tries to get the door for you.

    2. Madam Albright (half-bright) had her own little war in Kosovo a few years ago.

    1. Guys, if you have a sweet little lady that knows the meaning of being a “lady” and not a mere woman, cherish and keep her. She will be a rare commodity in the future; more precious than anything you could ever own in this world.

  • SteveinTX

    I think that the number one feminist myth is the idea that feminisim has ever been a positive for anyone, anywhere, at any time.

    SteveinTX

  • DcFather

    I would like to suggest separating feminist myths from anti-male double standards, the former being a set of popular lies and the latter being a list of things which are “heads she wins, tails he loses”.

  • Sage99

    Another well written and observant article by Pelle Billing. While I enjoyed it, I believe that it is a waste of time arguing with any feminist woman and the reason why the balance of power has shifted so much to women is not examined. But I think I may have the answer. Please read on.

    The male contraceptive pill; and freedom for men –

    The male pill is on it’s way, and will be with us in less than 5 years, if not from the US or Britain, then from China and India.

    The pill for men will be the biggest step for freedom that men have ever had – freedom from the serfdom imposed by fatherhood. So if the present tyrannical feminist British women want their babies, they will have to offer a far better deal to men than at present.

    The present marriage laws, and the infamous and secret ‘family courts’ will have to go, and quickly, and the dictatorial marriage and ‘common law’ marriage expectations drastically changed.

    The constant demeaning of masculinity, particularly on TV in programs such as ‘One Foot in the Grave’, ‘Men Behaving Badly’ and the present ‘soaps’ in general, where men habitually behave in an infantile manner, and are presented in an appalling way, will have to be recognised as highly offensive to men, and dispensed with.

    The most powerful of the British feminist weapons – the wild and malicious accusations of ‘rape’ and ‘child sex’ – will have to be brought back under civilized law where the accuser will be required to have hard evidence and be held responsible for their actions, both in the making of the accusation, and their part in the incident. The male sex drive is an extremely powerful force, and a woman who provokes it to the point where a man loses his self-control has only herself to blame. The accused will have to be considered innocent until – and if – proven guilty.

    The female contraceptive pill in 1960s Britain gave British women direct power over sex availability for the first time in human history; and she has used this power – unwisely – to assert a position of dominance over men in which she has reduce them to a level of disadvantaged cowed subservience – and infantile behaviour in an attempt to present themselves as children entitled to the protection of their maternal instinct – and to disadvantage them in every way possible.

    The ‘Mad Maternal Instinct’ – the all powerful evolutionary force in women that regards masculine Men as simple mating objects when in lust, and when not, as dangerous predators to be avoided or driven off and away from the precious family group.

    Once the power of the 1960s female pill is counterbalanced by the male pill this yoke of female dominance will be flung off with surprising speed, and retribution and revenge on the British feminist female – and feminist male – will be wreaked, as some wiser and more sensible women have been aware of for some time.

    Sage99

  • Mr.K

    Since Pelle Billing is also a Medical Doctor would he mind comparing one opinion that some women espouses. “But men never give a birth”
    (to a child, not birthers), When replied that wounded male solidiers suffer on battlefields and in some cases linger for the rest of their lives, women don’t accept the comparison.

  • http://shatterdmen.com Shatteredmen

    Ray Blumhorst wrote “Male Role Conditioning Exploits the Lives of All American Men”, a opinion piece in the “Valley Star” which also has several good comments. that shows that men are not as privileged as society thinks.

    http://tinyurl. com/yg5fual

  • sd

    You may have seen me suggest this before. Title the Myths “Feminist Fallicies – at FeministLies.com or FeministFallicies.com … or the Ten Worst Things you can say about men.

    We beat our pregnant wives killing them and the babies
    We rape 1 in 4
    99% of Family Violence is from men

    I like “Feminist Phallicies” =’s lies about men. Under the heading of Feminist Porno 101 (Could find lots of young males checking out that site) Phallicies and denigrating men being something feminist “get off” on, never tire of, seem addicted to… just like porn addiction.

    We could mention how until recently, with Obama surprising me, twice I have heard him say “innocent men, women and children” . I mentioned that lately at MND along with how FINALLY a black male journalists finally saw the light and added “GENDER” to the reason so many black men have been executed. He “got it” about black and lower class but it took him a few years – feminist guy – to add gender.

    We could discuss the myths as a form of “Gender Profiling” because that’s the kind of sound bit that is like “Dead Beat Dads” easy for others to remember after hearing a time or two.

    Feminist Porno as a title would also stick in young people’s minds. This might not appeal to others as ideas but maybe if we toss enough on the table we will find some thing that works.

    We could have photos of Arlington Cemetary… men in wheel chairs. Put that near how women only suffer… and how men earn more. We could get the numbers of women in Iraq and ask if they get equal pay why not equal death rates.

    Show a photo of crying women near an imploded mine shaft. Men with blackened faces and lungs… We could print the actual rates of deaths by homicide – black men 1 in 22 or whatever it is … to how safe white women are 1 , 350 ? Not sure but likely not too far off.

    Good luck with this.

    SD

  • STEVE DELUCA

    Jon,

    I have often wondered why we don’t have a site for students, high school or college age, doing research on gender issues. The Independent Women’s Forum had a list of ten myths up once.

    We could have a listing that says “Need accurate research for gender issues” and then send them to RADAR for DV and Farrell for Myth of Male Power” Of course “The War on Boys” by Christina Hoff Sommers.

    Judith Klienfeld PhD has “Myths” online about education and a boys ed site. There are so many good ones and no students seem to hear of them.

    The site would have a brief overview. We value men more, then why did 58,000 males die and 6 females, (all officers) in Viet Nam. Mention how Scully’s (sp) plane landing on the river … the intercom, women and children first. What would we think of a 80 year-old man stepping in front of a 26 year-old mother to let her drown (Titanic) but an 80 year-old women sees the mother next to her with three kids, waving crying, dad on deck, young man left to die, and she can REALLY sit there. Where is that nurturing and empathy in that case.

    For topic by topic we have a brief outline and then send them to, say, on money issues, to Warren Farrell’s book “Why Men Earn More” and a couple of other links about men and ask – why have they all heard the myth that women earn 77 percent for the same job – a lie, but never hear the truth, 96% (or whatever it is) of deaths on the job?

    What would be good to have is links to women who write about gender in favor of men and ask “WHY DIDN’T YOU KNOW, AS A STUDENT, THAT MANY WELL-EDUCATED MEN AND WOMEN” have different views. Lisa Scott attorney in Seattle as written about unfair divorce laws and DV.

    There are others. Medical. Why listen to feminist women without backgrounds in medical research tell us that women are being treated poorly. Simple say that we have a few national health centers for women, NONE for men and yet men who used to die a year younger than woman now are living 6 years less and no one care. Sally Satel MD in PC MD rips feminists for making sexist male bashing claims and finds that women are the ones we are taking care of while women tell us that we don’t care about women. Her books really kicks ass.

    Work issues. Fear and Loathing of the Inner Housewife” I believe is the title. The author laughs at feminist who suggest that women in factories really wanted to stay there when men came back from WW11

    Ask why such books along with “The Manipulated Man” are missing in their gender studies. Male sexuality, don’t let the women of MS be the only persons to weight in, ask for C Paglia whose views – lesbian that she is, is for men to express their lust freely.

    I talked to high school kids 20 years ago and asked them to list “gender issues” and then they listed all women’s issues I asked them “How many genders are there?” Two. Right, so why no issues from males. Duh. None had been taught anything about men dying in work, war, losing children in custody, always losing in “He said she said” situation.

    SD

  • http://avoiceformen.com/ Paul Elam

    @ Jon

    Sterling idea. Give me some time to consider how it would work and I will get back with you.

    Thanks

  • jon

    I’d like to see this site with a permanent top 10 list. Each point would be accompanied by links to common arguments from both sides and also evidence. There are sites that have this already but they are mostly 1 person blogs I think and I doubt they get a lot of traffic. I’m sure people will squabble over what the top 10 really are but most people can agree on 5 or so I think.

  • http://www.standyourground.com POIUYT

    1. What collective sin have young boys commited, to justify depriving them of their fathers to a rate and extent that young girls arent themselves experienced of, in being deprived of their mothers ?

    2. What greater collective sin have adult males commited, to justify depriving them of their children, income and property over adult females, whom arent themeselves deprived, where they are found to be just as humanly flawed ?

    3. How, in the one respect of war, are males forcibly and exclusively conscripted for their presumed facility with violence. But how, in another respect of family life, are males exclusively condemned for what was hitherto an assumed sole virtue of a facility with violence ?

    4. Why do males, young and old in society have no right of public recognition of their personal life. And if they do indeed have a pesronal aspect to their lives, why is it not also considered political as it is for females ?

    5. For as long as human history, males have been used to protect and provide, not only for the individual female and her offspring, but also for the whole of society. This requirement of discipline and strict order of the male is now expressed to be a manifestation of domestic violence. Yet how is it that the female, her offspring and society have not abandoned those male fruits of discipline and strict order, but on the contrary still expect to live off the same?

    6.
    The man who earns more on account of his greater period spent working and developing himself through time, is cast by radical females, on encouragement from leading males,as oppressing and impeading working females whom earn less. The hidden object here is to elevate working males as appropriate and good targets for state expropriation.

    7.
    The family man necessarily working day-long shifts, is cast by radical females, on encouragement from leading males, as uncaring of his wife and a potential harm to his kids on account of his prolonged absence from the home. The State objective here however is to infuse in the mind of the lazy, the idle, the plain inadequate or stupid that working men up and down the land are a good subject matter for gender-taxation and extortion.

    8.
    The family man whom has worked all his life to maintain his wife and kids at a certain economic level, is cast by radical females at the behest of leading males, as a good target for violence allegations. This is done with the object of cashing in on his earnings and property. That is, for the profit of lawyers and wife, whom is herself encouraged to feel abused for having to stay at home, not having the earning skill that husband has.

    9.
    Almost every aspect of the domestic violence allegation process appears aimed at maximising economic transfers between males to females, instead of conflict suppression. But males dont have the economic resources targeted by domestic violence law, on account of their maleness or on account of their abusing females. NO. Males have economic resources as a consequence of the hard work they do to earn it you miserable fool !

    10.
    Is the illegal immigrant prostitute a victim of domestic or sexual violence ? No she isnt. She simply wishes to jump the legal queue to a good life in America, free of honest sex-free work and the responsibilities of adulthood and good citizenship

    11.
    Is the economically lascivious pig whom mothers ten plus welfare children, non of whoms’ fathers are identifiable, a DV victim ? No she isnt. She is simply not clever or able enough to keep her sexual and personal dignity intact for richer or for poorer !

    12.
    Is the drug or alcohol abusing woman a victim of a domestic violence that she obviously exposes herself to whilst brawling and or fighting her fellow criminals and cranks ? No she isnt. She is simply a product of unrestrained materialist greed, lust and an excessive lack of self control.

    13.
    Is the millionaires wife whom is refused sex, money, a facelift, breast enlargement, a new car, a penthouse or a cruise trip round the world, a victim of domestic violence ? No she isnt. She is just an immature adult unable to respect the rights of others around her or indeed herself.

    14.
    Is the honest way to cure the phantom-problem of domestic violence to incentivise male-female conflict in womens favour. That is, by promising to feed them the property and income, forcibly snatched off their assailants with no quetions of truth asked ?. No it isnt. You simply create an underclass of inadequate parasites, ever roaming the earth for violent perpetrators to react, consequently setting them up for life for free on easy steet via the courts.

  • Denis

    Before I will engage in a sane discussion with feminists and American women I want an apology. An apology for the one-sided unfair demonization, denigration, and attacks against all males going back 40+ years. I want an apology for the fact that feminists and women did not want a sane discussion all this time but instead wanted to wage a one-sided war against all males. Now that society is in free-fall and women are now experiencing some discomfort as a result of their own actions why would I give a damn about these results? Let society collapse-let the women suffer. Until I get an apology I consider this a state of war. When and if a sane discussion does get started I believe a central topic of discussion by men is the elimination of all female advantage and privilege. ALL of it.


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