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Why Your Wife’s Excuses for Not Working Are Lame

When you met your wife was she passionate about her work? Did she tell she wanted a family and a career? Was it exciting and interesting to talk with her about your individual and mutual goals?

Then, you had a child. She was just going to take a little time off until he or she was ready for daycare. Now your child or children are enrolled in school full-time and your wife still hasn’t returned to the work force, all of the financial responsibility is on your shoulders and you’re wondering, “What happened to the independent and ambitious woman I married?”

You’re not alone. This is a trap a lot of men fall into, not realizing it until it’s too late. Many couples agree that one partner will stay home with the kids until they reach a certain age, usually the woman. However, many of these women renege on this agreement later. There are primarily 2 kinds of women who refuse to go back to work after saying “I do” and having a baby or two:

1) The Sucker-Maker. This woman never wanted to support herself. She played at working as a plan B, trying this and that, until plan A (that would be you) gave her a way out. Having a child was her reason to stop working. Conveniently, society applauds women who give up their careers to stay home with their children. She’s probably a loving parent, but she’s not over-involved like the Professional Mom, who will be described next.

The telltale sign: Who does most of the child care? Does she thrust your children at you as soon as you walk in the door after work, declare “It’s your turn!” and then disappear into her room or log onto Facebook for the rest of the night? Who goes to most of the parent-teacher meetings and soccer/baseball/lacrosse games because she needs “a break?” Does she go to your office and do your work when you need a break? I didn’t think so.

Her real goal has always been to have someone take care of her financial and material needs. Ironically, this is also the type of woman who complains bitterly about you working too much, not spending enough time with her or the kid(s) and that you don’t earn enough money. When you suggest she get a job to help contribute, she flatly refuses or may take a very part-time job answering phones, being a “designer,” or volunteer work just to get you off her back. However, she has no real career aspirations beyond being a dilettante.

2) The Professional Mom. She really did mean to go back to work, but the kids have so many activities, they need her and maybe she’ll go back to work once they’re in college. Meanwhile, she’s a one-woman livery service, events coordinator and parent committee member to an over-scheduled child(ren).

When the kids finally go off to college, she doesn’t know what to do with herself or what happened to her marriage. Her sole identity is “Mom” and she spent the last 15+ years relating to her husband only as a co-parent and household administrator, not as a lover. If she re-enters the work force, she’s surprised to discover how much things have changed. Most women have a very tough adjustment period when they emerge from the cocoon of professional mommy-hood.

Lame Excuses

There are 3 basic excuses (or some variation) these women use to avoid returning to work. Familiarizing yourself with them may be useful in helping your wife stand on her own two feet again or for the very first time, whichever the case may be.

1) The Lie: “I just want to wait until the child(ren) is in the first grade.” This morphs into, “I need to be there for her when she gets out of school,” or “Who will drive her to soccer practice/band practice/dance camp/swimming lessons/chess club/the mall/etc.?” or “Who will take care of the house?” She’ll create a laundry list of childcare responsibilities that prohibit her from working.

The Reality: Once the kids are in school full-time there is absolutely no reason for your wife not to return to work, especially if you only have one child. I truly believe that the over-scheduled child was created to give these women something to do other than work and to use as an excuse not to work. No child needs to be involved in so many activities that he or she requires around the clock chauffeur services. As for the very small percentage of moms out there with little prodigies on their hands, get involved with other parents and create a carpool system–it’s called effective time management and networking–something you should be modeling for your child anyway.

2) The Lie: “I can’t find good childcare” or “All the nannies I interviewed are crazy.” Obviously, I’m referring to families with economic means. Childcare isn’t cheap and some families truly don’t have the option of paid childcare. One parent has to stay home with the kids.

The Reality: “It’s hard to find good childcare” is a cop out. Yes, it can be challenging, but good daycare programs, nannies, sitters, aux pairs, community centers and church groups exist. You just have to work at finding them as well as give up the need to control everything and everyone.

3) The Lie: “There aren’t any jobs out there that will pay me for my level of education and experience.” If you do manage to get her out the door and into a job, she will probably self-sabotage. “My boss and co-workers are mean.” “Customers and co-workers are disrespectful.” “My boss doesn’t recognize my talents.”

The Reality: “Work is hard. People can be mean.” Being gainfully employed is stressful and requires coping with other people’s nonsense sometimes. That’s life. If it really is too rough out there, then welcome to the wonderful world of telecommuting (which has its own unique stressors) or she can create her own business.

She can’t find a job that’s important enough for her? Most people don’t start off at the top, especially not when they’ve been on extended mommy hiatus. You have to work your way back up. This is why there’s maternity leave. You’re out for a limited period of time, but your job is safe and waiting for you, so you can pick up where you left off. Also, if she really does have such an inflated sense of self-importance and entitlement, she’ll sabotage her interviews–forget about actually working.

What Can You Do?

If logic, reason and pleading don’t cut through these excuses or she comes up with new and improved ones, then you need to face it: Your wife simply doesn’t want to work. Is this something you can tolerate?

The longer she stays out f the work force, the more her skills sets will atrophy and the stronger her claims for unending spousal support will be should you divorce. Furthermore, men are not beasts of burden nor are you “working boys.” Your wives, contrary to what they believe or have been told, aren’t entitled to pimp you out while spending a greater percentage of your pay than you do. Do you want your wife to be a dependent or a partner?

by Dr Tara J. Palmatier, PsyD

Originally posted January 15, 2009 on a Shrink for Men.

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  • Dave

    Allen Says:
    “When a couple have children one of them should stay home. If it’s the woman, ok. If it’s the man, ok. One of them. Not a babysitter. Not daycare. ”

    Why? My ex and I both worked and our daughter stayed in an excellent daycare that was only a little more than a block down the road from us. IMHO, her experience in daycare greatly prepared her for school and for life in the outside world.

    I was the one that took her to her first day in school and I will never forget that moment as long as I live! We lived in a fairly upscale area and there were plenty of stay at home moms in that area. All of their kids were crying and clinging to them on the first day of school, not my kid. She was ready and eager to learn! She is now in her senior year at high school and is kicking butt academically with plenty of friends and a bright future ahead of her, despite all of the mess that happened between her mother and I. So I certainly don’t think that she suffered from her time in daycare.

  • Amber

    Wow, this conversation is very interesting! I’ve worked since I was 14 and plan to until I’m 70. I’ve always been terrified at the thought of being financially dependent on anyone. It may be that my parents both worked but my mother was the primary bread-winner. My parents split work and split household chores. I was expected to work in my household growing up.

    I was married for 10 years and paid for half of everything – mortgage, bills, and large purchases. When I divorced, the settlement was 50% of the home equity paid over 6 years. That was it. I purchased another home on my own dime. I am still friends with my ex-husband and will help him and his new wife and child to the best of my ability, just emotionally now but if he ran into financial trouble, I would try to help him. But it interesting that his new wife doesn’t work and spends like crazy – I don’t think he realized how good he had it with me.

    Currently I support my boyfriend while he finishes school to improve his financial standing. But I have some of the same issues as the posters. I definitely expect the house to be spotless and dinner on the table when I get home.

    I have never understood how women get men to be their sugar-daddys. I just always had pride in doing for myself and use my success to help others in my family improve their standing.

  • Allen

    This is not a problem. This is as it should be. Not trying to bait you, I’m serious. When a couple have children one of them should stay home. If it’s the woman, ok. If it’s the man, ok. One of them. Not a babysitter. Not daycare. Ah, the good ‘ol days.

  • pmg

    Has anyone ever challenged the “agreement” in court ? My wife and I made an agreement when she got pregnant, that she would stay home and take care of the kids until they were in school full time. That was 10 years ago. Is it possible to sue for breach of contract if your wife or ex-wife refused to honor that agreement ?

  • Dave

    Dr Tara Says:
    “I’ve long believed one of the reasons spousal and child support and custody issues are the way they are is so that shiftless ex-wives and their children don’t become welfare recipients of the state.”

    Bingo! That is exactly what the whole system is about. When you combine this with the huge financial rewards that the federal government passes on to the states every year that are based upon the amount of “child support” that they collect, then you can see why most so-called “family” courts have absolutely no incentive to ensure that fathers remain an active part of their childrens’ lives after divorce.

    Fortunately, I now have custody of my daughter and no longer have to deal with these parasites. Isn’t it amazing that in one year I have been able to take the same amount that I was previously paying in “child support” and pay for everything my daughter needs and still have enough left over to pay cash for a good used vehicle for her and save back a significant amount for her college education? And that was just in one year! Imagine what we could have done if she had been with me for the last 10 years!

    And we are supposed to believe that the politicians, judges and lawyers are really concerned about the best interests of the child? What a joke!

    As for alimony, there are still some states that use this left over relic of the Victorian era to do the same thing, prevent dependent women from becoming wards of the state. Unless there are some type of health issues, divorce should not require any adult to finance the lifestyle of another able-bodied adult. GET A JOB!

  • http://shrink4men.wordpress.com Dr Tara J. Palmatier

    @ Dave,

    My question was half facetious-half rhetorical. I understand that the current family court system has nothing to do with fairness and what’s best for the children.

    I’ve long believed one of the reasons spousal and child support and custody issues are the way they are is so that shiftless ex-wives and their children don’t become welfare recipients of the state. Instead, the husband is required to support their ex and gets limited custody of the children which thereby increases the amount of child support to the ex and the system gets their share of the profits, too.

    Follow the money trail…

  • Dave

    Dr Tara Says:
    “If she gets spousal support to maintain her standard of living, why isn’t she, for example, required to doe her ex-husband’s grocery shopping, cooking and laundry (that’s if she even did these tasks while married)?”

    Because, as most of us males who have been through our nation’s so-called “family” court system have learned: it’s not about what’s fair and what’s right, it’s all about the $$$.

    Even when it comes to child custody/child support issues.

    Question: How much $$$ do the states get from the federal government for ensuring that fathers get equitable custody arrangements?

    Answer: ZERO $

    Now, compare that to the massive federal/state bureacracy that has been established to do one thing and one thing only: transfer $$$ from one parent to another.

    Hmmm… I wonder why more fathers don’t have shared custody of their children?

  • http://shrink4men.wordpress.com Dr Tara J. Palmatier

    @ Trust,

    I agree with you 100% re: forfeiting the benefits of a spouse after divorce. Why is it the wife is the only one who is legally entitled to the marital standard of living. If she gets spousal support to maintain her standard of living, why isn’t she, for example, required to doe her ex-husband’s grocery shopping, cooking and laundry (that’s if she even did these tasks while married)?

    Seem fair to me.

  • Trust

    @Dr Tara J. Palmatier Says: If it were me, my next step would be to quietly consult with attorneys, transfer my assets into separate accounts, cancel joint credit cards, file fraud alerts with the major credit bureaus (to alert you if she opens up new cards in your name without your consent)
    ______________

    For people like me that never open up new cards or accounts, I recommend putting a freeze on one’s credit. Then an account can’t be opened without written permission (i think by certified mail). I did it years ago.

    I’ve long wondered what the modern state of marriage would be if wives weren’t able to fleece their husbands then flee from them. I bet they would appreciate good husbands more if they knew they’d end up worse off without them. (It’s long been a position of mine that when one choses to divorce, they should forfeit the benefits of having a spouse.)

  • David

    MD -
    You live in MA? Then watch out with the SAHM thing my friend. Your state has THE WORST alimony laws in the country. If wifey decides to walk away one day to “find herself” you will be stuck with paying for her way forever. I do mean forever.

  • SingleDad

    It was keeping my ex-wife from bankrupting us that lead her to leave. She used this as an abuse complaint to separate me from my son.

    I took the Doctors advise and with her doing this at 4 years of marriage, took the hint, and filed for divorce first.

    Now I live happily with my son, I have full legal and physical custody, and will never let that kind (feminist) of trouble into his life.

    Ever.

  • Larry

    Marriage for men is NOT an option. It is a raw deal at best.
    DON’T DO IT. We must get the word out to the young men in there youth.

  • Jay R

    Many good, common-sense suggestions posted here, including the “allowance” to control over-spending.

    Unfortunately, in our new, feminist paradise, “controlling” your wife financially is now just as “abusive” as hitting her in the face. In our new paradigm, the idea that a wife owes ANY duties to her husband is outmoded. Conversely, husbands have nothing but duties when it comes to their wives.

    Women like to complain that men fear commitment. In fact, men fear women — or at least the governmental enforcers who are always at the ready to protect the delicate little darlings.

    Women crow about their “independence” even as they turn themselves into the concubines of the state.

    It would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic.

  • SingleDad

    I have been through all of these and have never met nor have any men I know met a woman that is as you describe yourself.

    A 55 year old plumber friend of mine is dating a woman with a good professional job who brags that she has alot of money in the bank.

    When talking to him at lunch I learned she never spends a dime when they date and dating her is costing him $1000.00 per month in dinner, drinks, travel.

    I told him to invite me to his wedding. He got the sarcasm. I just hoped I reached him.

    I will never buy a woman dinner again. I believe that is where the stage gets set for the entitlement princesses.

    Thanks, even after 2 marriages family court hell, I still learned alot from your article.

    I don’t believe there are many women who are interested in true equality so I will stay alone.

    But at least I don’t feel crazy for feeling that equality in a relationship is the only kind of real relationship…..the other is just slavery.

  • http://shrink4men.wordpress.com Dr Tara J. Palmatier

    @ Dave

    Thanks for the chuckle! Yes, we both know how lucky we are to have found each other.

    There are many other women out there with similar attitudes and beliefs. I’m hopeful, perhaps naively so, that we’re the silent majority.

  • Dave

    Dr Tara says:
    “By the way, I consider myself to be a modern and empowered women. However, there are many women and men who confuse entitlement with empowerment.”

    LOL!

    I just have 2 questions:

    1. Does your partner know how lucky he is?

    2. Are there any more like you back home?

  • http://shrink4men.wordpress.com Dr Tara J. Palmatier

    @ MD

    You have my sympathy. I have a client who’s in a similar predicament. His wife consistently charges over the monthly budge SHE agreed to. When he canceled her credit card and replaced it with a weekly “pay as you go” card to control her spending, she raged at him, threatened divorce and accused him of “throwing the family under the bus.” Meanwhile, it was her profligate spending that was really throwing the family under the bus.

    Now, it’s a month later and she hasn’t gone anywhere. However, she’s staying within her budget.

  • http://shrink4men.wordpress.com Dr Tara J. Palmatier

    @ Dave

    There simply is NO EXCUSE for a woman not to pull her own weight in this day and age! Yes!

    Even if both she and her husband agree she will stay at home, she still needs to pull her weight. I can’t tell you how many women I know whose conception of being a stay at home mom (SAHM) includes weekly/bi-weekly housekeepers while their kid(s) are in school all day. I thought part of the deal of staying home was to take care of the home, not pay others to do it.

    Many women assert that being a stay at home mom is the toughest job in the world and then balk at the drudgery of housework. That’s like becoming a CPA and then complaining that math is hard. In a recent commercial for The View, conservative darling Elisabeth Hasselbeck claims that every mom should have the title “CEO” after her name. I nearly choked on my coffee at the over-inflated sense of self, but this is what many husbands contend with every day. Then again, maybe she meant “Chief Entitlement Officer?”

    I work full-time, mostly from my home office. Because I’m at home working and my partner works an incredibly demanding, good paying job, for which I’m very grateful, I keep the place tidy, do the laundry, most of the shopping and all of the cooking. When we first started living together, he couldn’t understand how I managed to do the laundry, etc. while working because his ex who did not work with one well-behaved teen in school FT couldn’t manage to do the laundry or any of the other cleaning (housekeeper 2x/week for a 2-BR apt) or cook (take-out most nights) when she didn’t work. She was a SAHM.

    I explained to him that laundry isn’t really time consuming—I put a load in and go back to my writing for 40 minutes; then transfer it to the dryer and go back to work for another 90 minutes. Taking 30 minutes each afternoon to do a quick tidy up of the place isn’t really that difficult or stressful and it’s what I did when I lived on my own. I think a lot of guys have been sold a huge bill of goods.

    Furthermore, if we move into a bigger place, we’ve already discussed that if maintaining our home begins taking too much time from my work schedule, that I will pay from the money I earn for a housekeeper once a week because I take pride in making a nice home for us and I see it as part of my responsibility. By the way, I consider myself to be a modern and empowered women. However, there are many women and men who confuse entitlement with empowerment.

    Cheers,
    Dr Tara

  • http://shrink4men.wordpress.com Dr Tara J. Palmatier

    @ POIUYT

    Great point:

    As this article correctly implies, a man should never ever allow himself to be manouvered into a position of shouldering more than his share of the burden. And he should make sure that his spouse, girlfriend lover or female partners bears outside comitments, and outside responsibilities for which she must give daily account. Just as he does.

  • http://shrink4men.wordpress.com Dr Tara J. Palmatier

    @ Mashed

    Exactly. This is why I advise any man entering into marriage to fully research and understand his state’s divorce laws before walking down the aisle. This isn’t being paranoid; it’s being prepared.

    Many states base spousal support on length of marriage. Men are encouraged/browbeaten—by therapists, pastors, women, society—to “tough it out” in a marriage and “hang in there” no matter what. Of course, the longer a man does this, the more he has to pay in spousal support later.

    My advice to all men is if something doesn’t seem right while you’re dating; DON’T IGNORE IT. If your true love pulls a Jekyll and Hyde (your wallet) as soon as you give her the engagement ring, don’t chalk it up to jitters or being a “Bridezilla,” get your ring back and end the engagement. If she changes after the ceremony, get out sooner rather than later. Waiting for the “sweet, sexy fun woman” you first met to return is highly unlikely to happen. The woman you have after saying, “I do” is the true personality; everything before was smoke and mirrors.

    Before getting married, discuss in great detail your expectations regarding working and raising a family and then get it in writing. Before the ceremony, set up consequences for her reneging on these agreements later on. If she balks or threatens to walk, LET HER. Don’t let her control you with the fear of loss before the wedding because you stand to lose a great deal more than her physical presence if you marry and things go south.

    Maintain separate finances, separate checking, etc., after you marry. This won’t make it as convenient for her to “take a break” from working if she doesn’t have easy access to your cash. Again, if she doesn’t agree to these terms, she’s as good as tipped her hand.

  • MD

    … In MA where I live, because 2 incomes have become the norm, and this has increased the cost of living. A single earner while a wife stays at home for simply the sake of staying at home disadvatages the family’s finaicial well being. A single mother with the benfit of child support is basically a two income home as well.

    I am suprised that there has never been a study of the law of wages in regard to the amount of available workers, which drives the mean icnome down. By bringing 51% of the population (women) into competition for jobs, it drives down wages.

    My wife not working makes me a wage slave in MA, and makes our money not go far…so we miss all the extra’s more income can offer.

  • http://shrink4men.wordpress.com Dr Tara J. Palmatier

    @ Davidtoo

    Being married to the wrong person, particularly a self-centered, controlling and entitled woman, doesn’t leave you with many palatable options. In fact, in many cases, the choices are between “suck,” “suck” and “suck.”

    I recommend trying to have a serious discussion with her about the impact her refusal to work is having on you and the family. Couch it in terms of modeling being a responsible parent with a strong work ethic for the children. If she still refuses, tell her she is causing you to reconsider whether you want to remain in the marriage. If she responds by threatening divorce and saying she’ll just take all of your money anyway then you know exactly whom you’re dealing with—a woman looking for a meal ticket.

    If it were me, my next step would be to quietly consult with attorneys, transfer my assets into separate accounts, cancel joint credit cards, file fraud alerts with the major credit bureaus (to alert you if she opens up new cards in your name without your consent) and then give her an “allowance” and a list of chores, just like you would for your teenager. If she doesn’t do her chores, she doesn’t get her “allowance.”

    I realize this option isn’t for everyone and that it will probably send many women to the nearest sleazy divorce attorney, screaming, “Abuse!” However, I don’t think it’s right to allow this kind of women to run roughshod and hold her husband hostage either.

    Developmentally, this kind of woman is an entitled, petulant teenager. Setting boundaries and consequences works with teens, so maybe they’ll work with your wife. No matter what you decide, you need to consider all of your options, how much you can tolerate in your marriage, how tolerable are the consequences of staying vs. leaving and how well can you protect your children (if applicable) whichever path you choose.

    On the other hand, if you’re married to a woman like this and don’t have children, consider getting out now before you create little hostages for her to better control you and your assets with.

    Kind Regards,
    Dr Tara

  • MD

    Dr. Palmatier’s has helped shed light on my domestic situation very much. My wife will not go back to work, and uses almost every excuse outlined in this article….and I also have got the “you have to figure out a way to make more money” statement (I already make above average for our state). She has used “having a child ruined my studies and therefore my career” argument but she wasn’t enrolled in college at the age 28 when we met – she half finished her studies years prior. Now, obviously it is my fault that she can’t get the prestigious job the she feels she should be entitled too, and any lesser jobs now are below her and would be a waste of her time compared to over the obsessive job she does at raising our child, which is becmoning

    After reading Tara’s series I realized that it isn’t me, and that the situations that women like my partner create are of the text-book variety praised in the Oprah world of female self entitlement.

  • Hardscrabble

    I must disagree with the kind and honorable doctor. The family unit as designed by God involves the man working “in the field” as it were, and the woman supporting the man by taking care of and helping instill the man’s values into the children. I obviously need help with the definition of woman, wife, and gender roles in these sophisticated and modern times. Perhaps a few sessions from the good doctor would get my mind “right”.

    Supporting the family unit involves much more than merely “babysitting” the kids. They are you, your DNA, your future, your country’s future. The type of people the good doctor alludes to are seemingly selfish and superficial.

    Speaking as a man, there is nothing a traditional man (pre 1990 adult?) would like more than to come home to June Cleaver. To know that Christmas has been planned for the family by a clever and industrious woman who cares about her family; a woman who can focus her time on her family. A woman who uses the resources supplied by her husband to support and create opportunity for her family. His family is HER family. They have a shared mutual interest in nurturing and growing it. Sometimes it means spanking the children, saying “NO”. It is not always going to be kittens and flowers, gold stars and smiley faces. Other times it may be forcing the man to accept is God given role as head of the family. Personal sacrifice for your family is not sacrifice it is your DUTY. But duty is also something not taught to children in these sophisticated and modern times. Mainly because most young adults have no concept of what a sense of duty is. Some of you may have a problem with what I say but that only proves the changing value system in this country and it’s not changing for the better.

    Women should leave the career jobs for men. Women should not compete with men for these jobs. They should focus on their families. Recent studies seem to suggest that women, especially those in “career” positions are unhappy. I wonder why. Could it be because society has pulled a “bait and switch” with them and in the process they have given up their God given role as wife and mother and eventually grandmother? The selfish greed of women in general is nothing more than the age old Seven Deadly Sins. Pride, Covetousness, Lust, Anger, Gluttony, Envy, and Sloth. I suggest the women’s equal rights movement began with Envy. The envy of men and what they perceived as the “unfairness” of the patriarchal society. The one Deadly Sin leads to the next. So much for the meek and humble woman.

    The woman, of necessity, must share the man’s values or the program of marriage with children won’t work. “The two of them become one body”. Of course if you have no children then you are two people living together. In our sophisticated and modern society this can be done without contract so in such a case why take the high risk of marriage failure when the odds are against you? Besides, if it’s sex you want that is freely available because of the values we as a society have instilled in our daughters. Just don’t pay for it – that’s illegal. Thanks again feminism.

  • Dave

    Dr. Tara J. Palmatier says:
    “Do you want your wife to be a dependent or a partner?”

    Great article!!! There simply is NO EXCUSE for a woman not to pull her own weight in this day and age! With the current divorce laws in the US, any man who enables a woman to stay at home is making an incredibly foolish mistake, one that he is liable to pay for for the rest of his life. Remember, approximately 50% of the marriages in this country end in divorce and roughly 70% of the divorces in families with children are initiated by women. Do you want to enable some parasite to suck the life out of you?

  • http://www.standyourground.com POIUYT

    And tiger woods housebound wife has boldly been commitng acts of violence against him and threatening his career precisely because she di not work or have a responsible career of her own to service.

    She has no one to answer to in the commercial world of work and no performance standards by which she is economically being assessed. And she and her female housebound kind know this, hence their confidence to start querells, throw their weight around the house and initiate violence against their working husbands.

    Some of these fecless and lazy human swine even go further and take their bullying and aggression to the husbands workplace and his employers. And they do this in the full knowledge and confidence that this rotten society has placed them on account of their gender above question or reproach on a pedestal.

    In the event that the abused breadwining husband were to dare react or even “persistently not react”, then out will come other full time working male enforcers of this disgusting picture of misandry to deal with him. Yep, even “persistently not reacting” is an offence according to the duluth model, for which a man can be striped of assets, jailed and barred from ever seeing his kids again.

    As this article correctly implies, a man should never ever allow himself to be manouvered into a position of shouldering more than his share of the burden. And he should make sure that his spouse, girlfriend lover or female partners bears outside comitments, and outside responsibilities for which she must give daily account. Just as he does.

  • Mashed

    She’s saying that if she doesn’t want to, you can’t make her. The implied response is to tolerate the situation or to divorce her; the sooner the better. The longer he procrastinates on this, the less likely it is that he will ever be able to stop supporting her given the current legal environment.

  • Davidtoo

    OK. So now what? What are you recommending to actually get her back in the work force. As most men on here know, this predicament puts men in an extremely vulnerable position if the marriage is to come apart. He is STUCK paying for her to stay home….probably for the rest of his life.







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