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Women Legislators Attack Men’s Dating Rights

2010-01-21
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How far out of touch with reality are women legislators anyway?

That’s exactly the question being asked by citizens (women and men) regarding a proposed bill in the Maryland General Assembly, that would restrict men’s rights to use dating sites to meet foreign women and will likely spur copycat legislation in other states.

Delegate Jeannie Haddaway-Riccio , Vice President of the women’s caucus is leading 35 other delegates (all women) on a campaign for passage of HB 65, that would shockingly require Maryland men to submit their fingerprints and other background information before they can initiate communication with a foreign woman if they use an “International Marriage Broker”.

A close examination of the fine print reveals the bill is littered with false, misleading, and inaccurate information. Nobody is being traded or sold as the title, “Regulation of Marriage Brokers”, deceptively implies. The truth reveals these are merely dating sites that provide names, addresses and phone numbers so that a Maryland citizen can initiate communication (as in saying “hello”) with a foreigner.

Punishment for violations of the law include $12,000 fine and or up to one year imprisonment.

The drama that has unfolded since the controversial bill was introduced reads like a war script. The attack was announced on January 4, 2010, in a AP news release , “MD lawmakers push for restrictions on mail order brides”.

“The battle for Maryland, round 2” has begun, stated “Bronxman” who posted his comments along with a chilling image of a fingerprint on the website “Online Dating Rights”, a group opposed to the law.

Almost immediately, the controversial law caught the attention of WBAL (Baltimore) popular talk show host, Shari Elliker, who asked Delegate Jeannie Haddaway- Riccio to be on her radio program, January 6. During the program, the MD Delegate seemed to be reading from a script. After citing a few cases of foreign women abused and treated like commodities, a caller (David) cast doubt on her assertions by stating “ …You have anecdotal evidence that this or that might be happening , and I don’t believe anybody is actually purchasing a human being.” The host repeatedly criticized the bill, stating the government should not be regulating these types of things (dating and communication).

Meanwhile, Delegate Haddaway- Riccio continues to promulgate the law as a parrot for the same activists groups who successfully promoted the federal International Marriage Broker Regulation Act of 2005, a similar but less obtrusive law. The promoters of both the federal and state laws have made sensational claims that American men who date foreign women are rapists, wife beaters “many are premeditated torturers”, even though a 1999 INS study shows the abuse rate in International marriages is one seventh the abuse rate in domestic marriages.

Promoters also have suggested that American men are purchasing foreign brides through the Internet, another hoax.

The Maryland law requires male matchmaking clients to provide an array of personal and criminal information to a foreign woman, making them vulnerable to identity theft, blackmail and other crimes. Also, the law fails to protect American men from immigrant scammers who often file false charges of abuse so they can obtain citizenship.

So what exactly is the mindset of MD women legislators who are going after fictitious “marriage brokers” surreptitiously masking the reality of a law that regulates men’s communication, and could land them in jail for a year – just for writing a love letter?

Just like the National Organization of Women, the MD women legislators have their own self serving political agendas, absent the needs and concerns of average women and men constituents they are supposed to represent.

Well, the next logical step, if the Maryland law passes, would be for the taxpayer funded activist groups to mobilize a campaign to get similar laws passed in other states.

In the meantime let it be known that writing a letter- including a romance letter, is a legitimate activity and the government has no right to enact laws that place restrictions on relationships and communication occurring across international boundaries.

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  • http://elusivewapiti.blogspot.com Elusive Wapiti

    “At some point, even law abiding people are going to stop following the law.”

    What, you think the law abiding follow the laws either?

    They may try, but even cops say that it is impossible to be in full compliance with the law all the time.

    http://elusivewapiti.blogspot.com/2009/08/dont-talk-to-police-part-ii.html

    Especially since there are so many now, one is bound to run afoul of one.

  • Mr. Knight

    Men are treated as dogs to be caged or whipped.

    Many say that the response should be to run and hide (the “marriage strike”).

    That won’t work. Feminist big government will follow men into the hills, into the valleys, even into the caves.

    Men have to take a stand. The answer isn’t to seek an end to responsibilities (the “choice for men” movement), but rather to secure rights that are no less than the rights accorded to women, and to have the rights of men enshrined in law.

  • http://onlineDatingRights Rodney Orleck

    It abhores me to see that there are people out there that will continue to twist or fabricate laws to promote their special interests. Even to the extent that may come back to harm their own children and their childrens’ children. The gradual abollishment of dating rights directed at men international/domestic, will be first that will lead eventually, to the abollishment of womens’ rights. Also later to the erradication of marriage completely…..? As American citizens are willing to give up their rights to the ‘powers that be or will be’, of taking away rights and liberties, then the controll goes to the ‘State’ not for its civillians to have their say! Is this the coming of the ‘State’ pedicted in George Orwells’ 1984?

  • http://onlineDatingRights Rodney Orleck

    I am a new online date person ‘and I must say’ I have had my eyes opened wide from reading the updates of what is happening to our way of life, laws regarding men, and the feminists’ dictating the laws that would more and more make life unbearable for all men. I thought George Orwells’ book titled “1984″ wall only fiction. Well guess again! It is here now and has been since 1984. The subtle taking over of the feminists’ viewpoints is now full blown and our passage of laws prohibiting mens rights on international dating is more proof of the destroying of all rights of men and later, the undoing of women rights; is in place. Soon the State will be the Power of how we are to carry on our lives.
    As I have believed and suggested to others that; if married couples can not cumunicate and romance one another, then they merely exist in a toxic relationship. More and more married couples living in a materialistic soceity are going into toxic relationships, because they can not keep up financially trying to buy into the cooperative delusion of what happiness is. What is love and what will it cost..$$$$? Mabey the next law will be not only to ban international marriage, but; to banish all marriages all together! The State is winning in this battle against romance and marriage.

  • Dave Root

    There are two important developments regarding the crusade being led by the National Organization of Women cartel to regulate (prevent) American men from dating and marrying a foreign woman.

    First, the state of New Jersey has apparently passed a new law that would realistically shut down International dating sites that provide names, addresses and phone numbers so that a New Jersey man can initiate communication with a foreign woman.

    http://www.trentonian.com/articles/2009/12/02/news/doc4b1601c1ef674948904906.txt

    Owners of pen pal and International dating agencies are now considered to be traffickers who would be labeled as criminals and forced to prove their innocence by submitting to background checks before they can help New Jersey men find a nice, traditional conservative foreign woman. Love is now a crime unless the National Organization of Women cartel condones the activity since they now have complete power to determine the conditions under which New Jersey men can communicate or date a foreign women. New Jersey men- you are now officially second class citizens, indentured servants. Thank goodness I live in Maryland.

    Speaking of Maryland, there is a hearing scheduled for February 3, at 1:00 pm to determine if Maryland men will continue to have the constitutional right to date and marry a person of their choosing.

  • Alek

    I can’t wait till technology reaches a point where you can just hook a chip to your head and have reality-identical sex simulations.

    It’s pretty darn obvious these are last ditch attempts by women who are losing on a competitive market.

  • Delphi_Programmer

    What absolutely angers me about this whole thing are the lies that all of this legislative effort are based on. I don’t mind protecting women, foreign or American, from people with criminal histories. But please stop with the “mail order bride”, “men ‘purchasing’ brides” and “bride trafficking” propaganda. We all know that what is being attacked is a simple “personals ad” column where men and women place and answer ads for friendship, dating and possible future romance. Yes, marriage is often a goal, just as it is in the newspaper personals. But no one is being purchased, sold or trafficked.

  • enitiate

    Women hate competition.

    It’s as simple as that. American women compare unfavorably to foreign women. If a substantial percentage of American men started marrying foreign women, you can be sure more draconian laws would be inflicted on us even if the pretext was flimsy.

    It is the same reason cheap legal prostitution is not readily available in the U.S. the competition could easily dissuade a large number of men from marrying.

  • Mr. Knight

    @ Dave Root:

    Thanks for the breakdown.

    Clearly feminists are insatiable in their need to hurt men.

  • Denis

    All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.

    Thomas Jefferson

  • HQR3

    The problem is that misandric laws like this are passed with no fanfare, and the public is none the wiser. After 15 years and even more billions, I still can’t find member of the public who has ever even heard of VAWA, much less IMBRA.

  • Dave Root

    Mr. Knight:
    The Maryland state law, “Regulation of marriage Brokers” is similar to the federal International Marriage Broker Regulation Act of 2005 , but they are not exact replications.

    The federal law requires clients to only self-report their criminal histories to the fictitious “Marriage Broker” companies and there is no punitive damages if they lie. The Maryland law would close this loophole by requiring that the personal and criminal information be verified on a signed affidavit, and any false or inaccurate information could potentially result in a prison sentence for Maryland men, with a potential for up to one year in jail.

    So before a Maryland man can say “Hello Svetlana” he would have to submit the following information: two sets of fingerprints, his marital history, his personal and criminal history verified in an affidavit, and state whether he has sponsored a foreign fiancée previously.

    Obviously the MD law is much worse the federal IMBRA law and you can expect future legislation (state or federal), sure to come will be even more intrusive. Good luck everybody.

  • Paul

    Any law limiting who I can talk to (free speech!) is unconstititional and I will not obey it. I will seek out ways to break this and other similar laws.

    Paul Schmidt,
    Babb, MT

  • Mr. Knight

    Isn’t this a replication of the already-instituted law called IMBRA?

  • Mr.K

    Richard
    Even though your comment was directed to the author of the article, I decided to visit your link. It’s a virtual treasure trove of humourous and hard hitting pictures about feminist. Not for those who are faint at heart or young children. Link for those who dare:

    http://www.rip-factor.com/formen/index.html

  • http://www.rip-factor.com/formen/index.html Richard

    @Dave Root

    …would prefer not to submit info on this public web-site.

    I like being active – it makes me feel like I am doing something other than whining.

    I do not live in maryland – I live in Nevada.

    You can contact me through my web-site (my name here links to it).

    I would like to know of anything that I can do to help.

    Thanks.

  • Dave Root

    Single Dad has stated: “What are we going to do about this”?
    I agree actions are worth a million words so to speak. We are carefully studying the re election prospects of each of the 36 Maryland Delegates who sponsored the bill. For example, Representative Sue Hecht, a Democrat lives in a conservative area and is very vulnerable. Last election she won by a slim margin against her Republican opponent. Obviously she’s out of touch with reality and it’s going to hurt her going into the fall 2010 elections. I will be working to defeat her by working on the political campaign of her opponent.

    We have other plans also but would prefer not releasing that information on this public website.

    There is a lot of resentment out there and the men’s rights movement needs to capitalize on this in the upcoming fall elections. The time has come for us to take action and punish those elected officials who sponsor draconian legislation such as the Maryland bill which is designed to sabotage men’s dating rights. I say let’s roll.

  • David

    Laws like this among other things generate disrespect for the law.

    At some point, even law abiding people are going to stop following the law. What? I can’t grow my own chickens without paying a tax on each egg and filling out a million forms? BS. The law is ignored. What? I cannot talk to the girl of my choice? BS. The law is ignored, etc. There is only so much people will put up with.

  • Dave

    @ Dave Root and PK,

    yes, a little more research into it shows that the laws there (US) far exceed those in Oz in this matter (as far as I can tell).

    The Australian Govt has tried to cast it as “human trafficking” by citing singular more extreme cases…, but as far as I can tell it is nothing like what you have –

    THe scary part is, is that Australia usually sooner or later follows the US in many ways… yikes!

    And just when I thought the burden of regulations here couldn’t get much higher. There is however a growing resistance to feminist rants, and the rule of the regulator (instead of law).

    Anyway, I’ll butt out of this one,

    Dave.

  • Dave Root

    “I can’t see how the government could then stop me visiting the country of a prospective partner, possibly even marrying her there, and then going through the usual miles of paperwork to allow her entry to your home country, or to stay in hers ( I know a number of men who have done that)”.

    The goal here is to make it almost impossible for dating companies to exist. The Maryland law is so overarching that it requires 2 sets of fingerprints to be submitted along with marital information, and submission of criminal history documented as an affidavit. If you or the marriage agency fail to provide accurate information you are violating the provisions of the law and could spend up to one year in jail.

    Assuming that you survived the first hurdle, and developed a serious relationship with a foreign lady then you would proceed to the fiancée stage of the relationship, which requires another background check and other forms, interviews, etc.

    In the United States you have the International Marriage Broker that passed US Congress in 2006. If you are a US citizen and wish to bring your foreign wife or spouse to the USA you would need to follow the procedure for US Immigration. This means that at some point you would have to file immigration forms with US Customs and Immigration Service. One of those forms explicitly asks the following question [derived from the federal International Marriage Broker Regulation Act] : “Did you meet your wife or fiancée through an “International Marriage Broker”?

    If you declared “no” to this question and indeed you met your wife through an International Marriage Broker (a dating agency), your fiancée Visa can and will be denied if the government discovers you provided false information. Your wife goes back to her country of origin and your marriage is over. Period.

    As you can probably surmise US Customs and Immigration and Service can and will deny fiance Visas for any petty reason. For example back in 2006 the US Customs and Immigration Service suddenly revoked 10,000 fiancé Visas that had already been previously issued simply because they claimed they had processed those 10,000 Visas without validating whether or not the couple had met through an International Marriage Broker. (That question wasn’t on the form).

    Perhaps you are confused along with everyone else, and that is precisely why the Special Interest groups drafted the law in that manner. The International Marriage Broker Regulation Act was bad enough buit now you have states passing more draconian versions.

    Maryland used to be called the “free state” but I fear it is becomming a police state.

  • PK

    To Dave@2010-01-22 at 5:46 pm

    The “marriage broker” would be the RSVP service you mentioned. And the miles of paperwork would be were they would catch this.

  • Mr.K

    Since the Majority Leader of Maryland House of Delegates and a co-sponsor of the bill is unlikely to seek foreign women to marry, the bill will likely become a law. Link to her bio.

    http://www.lezkeepitreal.com/notable-lesbians-19/

  • Dave

    I don’t understand how that could work?
    I am in Australia which is also a feminist controlled country . I personally wouldn’t touch an anglo-australian – they are similar it seems to US women. Also, keep in mind that I am married to a south pacific island lady.

    To test this:
    I went on to a large and popular dating site here in Australia called RSVP – just to try this out (www.rsvp.com.au).

    I entered both Papua New Guinea and Malaysia as seperate searches for females in certain age ranges, and got quite a number of results.

    Now, on that site you can then let them know you are interested- they view your profile- and if all looks good you can chat,send messages etc. then go off-site and communicate that way.

    Keeping in mind at all times that there are many Internet love scams and scammers.

    I can’t see how the government could then stop me visiting the country of a prospective partner, possibly even marrying her there, and then going through the usual miles of paperwork to allow her entry to your home country, or to stay in hers ( I know a number of men who have done that).

    There are immigration agents that can help with that but they are not marriage-brokers.

    Did I miss something??

  • Dave

    Here is what is so crazy about this law. Hiliary Clinton voted for the federal International Marriage Broker Regulation Act, a law that criminalizes communication between American men and foreign women on the Internet. Then just 3.5 years after she voted for that law, she ironically complains to the Chinese government because they have restrictions on Internet communication. What a hypocrite. You can read about this in post # 337 attached to this link below.

    http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2010/01/23/world/asia/23diplo.html?sort=newest&offset=2

    Dave

  • PK

    I say let it ride. Marriage is irrelevant anyway. Let the feminists do to America what they are doing to Britain and when the US inevitably fades into irrelevance due to its weakness ans societal paralysis, we men can take the country we built back from the weasels.

  • Fred D.

    Isn’t this type of law unconstitutional? couldn’t it be challenged in court? Any lawyers out there that could speculate about this type of law?

  • daveinga

    there were a couple of n.o.w. females on a news show yesterday talking about how many more women need to be elected to office all across the country. why? so you can ignore the Constitution and attach middle of the night amendments (imbra) to unconstitutional laws (vawa) to secretely remove God given rights from men? this is the evil that is feminism. using ignorance/lies/shame/distortions or whatever works, to garner power and control men.

    i went onto an online overseas dating site last night and looked at the questions that we must answer, and the info we must give to overseas women before being allowed to communicate with them. the info does not stop with “normal” info. they want to know EVERYTHING about you. even info as to everywhere you have lived in your entire life. very personal info. not only enough info to steal your credit, but so much that some here may not be able to provide for national security reasons. and they must give us nada about the women?

    the marriage strike appears to be working. this legislation is a knee jerk reaction to ‘nip it in the bud’. so much for working for the good of ALL of the people in your districts. all the women who have backed this bill have shown themselves for exactly what they are. evil.

    without u.s. men supporting them, u.s. women will become obsolete. i guess affirmative action can only give them so many handouts. they want all the wealth produced all the time. their greed has no bounds.
    and we are just supposed to shut up and pay women as designed.
    NOT ME! never again.

  • Roland3337

    This entire issue of regulating international dating via such laws as IMBRA are precisely what turned me from being a casual (and naive) advocate of the feminist way of thinking, to a bitter and ardent opponent.

    And not just with this particular issue, but with everything else associated with the feminazi movement. It was truly my ‘red pill’ moment.

    And to learn that it could get even worse, (at least in Maryland…to begin with) boils my blood.

  • Ray Merk

    Why don’t they just neuter us all? Then we’d be French.

    Sounds like a totally sexist law.

  • Denis

    Mr. K-

    thanks. You are correct.

  • Dave

    Both the state and federal marriage broker laws have more to do with political posturing and funding for women’s activists groups than protecting women from violence. The NOW cartel knows fully well that their original goals of economic ,social and political equality between men and women have already been attained.

    They simply cannot continue their con game on the domestic (USA) front much longer. Future growth for the unaccountable and notoriously corrupt domestic violence industry relies on their ability to extend their tentacles into the international arena. Hence you have laws by women activists with an ostensible stated purpose, to help women, which masks the true purpose- to regulate (prevent) relationships between American men and foreign women.

    Many American women are concerned that an increasing number of American men are seeking and then marrying foreign women. This is seen as a threat by many American women, for two reasons.

    First of all, these foreign women are quite attractive and represent competition for American women. Secondly, from a financial standpoint, an increase in the number of American men who date and then marry foreign brides would automatically decrease the chances that American women will ultimately collect child support and alimony.

    Domestic marriages between American men and women have a 50% success rate whereas these International marriages have a much greater success rate. If most American men would marry foreign women this would drastically reduce the number of divorce lawyers. This is precisely the reason why the largest law firms in the country have been aggressively lobbying for laws that prevent American men from dating foreign women.

    So I would view the real purpose is to prevent American men from ever having the opportunity of meeting foreign in the first place. Ban the practice of International dating and romance altogether.. that’s what they really want.

  • Mr.K

    @ Denis,
    Good post by you but Biden is actually from Delaware and was born in Pennsylvania. Link: Wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden

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  • http://www.rip-factor.com/formen/index.html Richard

    @Keyester.

    Nah – there is nothing more pressing than destroying men’s well-being and happiness.

    I have met some women who seriously believe that it is their civic duty to punish ALL men for things in the past that never actually happened.

    Politics are a total joke – they should be called anti-male-sexualtics.

  • Keyester

    http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LASST24000003

    Maryland’s unemployment rate was 7.5% in December and rising; and this is what their feminist legislators do? Surely there must be more pressing matters than enacting more laws against men.

  • http://www.rip-factor.com/formen/index.html Richard

    Governments that are based on Matriarchal Tyranny must limit the mating options available to their male citizens in order to sustain themselves.

    -Dr. Rookh Kshatriya – http://www.anglobitch.com (sorry for the profanity there – but his site is actually of a high intellectual calliber).

    Nonsense like this has been going on for a long time.

    I heard that they are also making it harder for successful men to leave the country.

    Successful men have nothing to gain by staying here – if they get successful, there will be a plether of women wanting to marry him (i.e. steal half of his success).
    Successful men are also portrayed as super-villains inthe media if they are single (nancy grace & the duke lacrosse nonsense).

    I know way too many men that have left the country, and gotten young, thin “super-model-quality” women – whom they are happy with, and who are happy with them. These men are among the most kind, non-violent, noble, and loving men I have encountered.

    Actions like this from today’s feminists demostrate an extreme desparation.

    The feminists have farted in the room – and now, everybody is leaving.

    Its actually quite comical.

  • SingleDad

    So what are we going to do? Is someone going to organize a national letter writing campaign? Or are we just going to talk about it? What about our lobbiests?

    If this passes it is our fault and only our fault.

  • http://jmnzz.wordpress.com Jared White

    “35 other delegates (all women)”

    Nuff said.

  • Denis

    Maryland is Biden’s home state. He brought us the unconstitutional VAWA with the help of the women there. Clearly, women in Maryland are bad for men everywhere in America. Men would be wise to challenge this legislation before it gets passed. That means making their voices heard. Otherwise, this will become a national law one day soon.

  • stu

    Feminists are trying to take away all choices for men. Here in Oz, if two gays live together…..then split up…..it goes through the family court and one can lose his assets and have to pay alimony. This is because feminists want every alternative relationship a man can have to be equally as dangerous as they have made relationships with women. I have not spoken to one gay guy that wanted these laws and every gay guy I have spoke to actually did not want these laws. Feminist are even interfering in men having sexual relationships where there is no woman involved. They don’t want men to be able to thave access to any alternatives except the bitch man hating feminists in the west……it’s as simple as that. They will probably make a law against jerking off sooner or later. Don’t laugh, they have tried to ban the new generation of super real looking love dolls……even though they all have vibrators and dildos in their bedside draws.

  • criolle johnny

    PROTECTIVE TARIFF!

  • Bruno

    Just another step forward in the total dis-empowerment of men, the ultimate goal of the man-hating terror-reign.
    If men are so dangerous and evil, the next step will be to check and control all men who want to initiate contact with a any woman, or better, let’s just monitor all men all the time, haha..
    They are evil entities anyway.
    Then we have the feminists utopia with men as nothing more than complete slaves.

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    One word. R – A – P – I – S – T – S.

  • Ken

    I think a lot of American women are offended that more and more American men are finding foreign women more desirable.

  • MIke S.

    Just who are they trying to protect….foreign women looking for a better life or the piss-poor excuse for marriagable women in Maryland?







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