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Global Warming Advocates : Two IQ Points Short of a Pin Head Perhaps

2010-02-23
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Bill Nye. OK, here’s another one. What do normal people call a prolonged heating of the Earth’s atmosphere? ……… Summer.

MSNBC’s Bill Nye “the science guy” has been the regular butt of jokes as a result of his ceaseless and absolute defense of the global warming industry; with “scientific” arguments that include the fact that the UN’s IPCC shared a Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore – and “those are really hard to get.” (Ann Coulter at CPAC)

There’s some chat around the Internet water-cooler just now on Nye’s performance in a global warming debate against Joe Bastardi (State College, Pennsylvania and AccuWeather meteorologist). For the most part, it was just another boring call from Nye for unquestioning faith in the IPCC’s conclusions and all that Al Gore might wish make of them. But first some science questions.

Nye: Ah well, the evidence is overwhelming. Do you agree Joe, that in 1750 the world’s carbon dioxide was 280 parts per million?

Bastardi: Bill, you don’t want to go here, because you know why? Because I’m going to show CO2 correlation …

Nye: Do you agree?

Bastardi: Yes, I agree.

Nye: Do you agree that the planet Venus is warm because it has a lot of carbon dioxide in its atmosphere? And I say warm, warm enough to melt lead on its surface. Do you agree?

Bastardi: I don’t believe we have the proper measurements of Venus from over ten billion years ago, so I can’t tell the relationship with the Earth. But maybe you can.

Nye was pointing to Venus as an example of the results of run-away global warming; the alleged fate of Earth if we don’t pass laws against it and pay more taxes. No jokes here asking who was driving the SUVs on Venus. When the planet is at stake, we owe it to ourselves to be deadly serious. So I went to the same place the IPCC entrusts with its scientific review – Wikipedia, where the tireless editors of truth support the theory whole-heartedly.

“Studies have suggested that several billion years ago Venus’s atmosphere was much more like Earth’s than it is now, and that there were probably substantial quantities of liquid water on the surface, but a runaway greenhouse effect was caused by the evaporation of that original water, which generated a critical level of greenhouse gases in its atmosphere.”

Studies have suggested – probably. I’m reminded of a short documentary in a season five episode of Futurama, “Spanish Fry.”

Documentary: In the dense forests of the Pacific Northwest, dwells the strange and beautiful creature known as Bigfoot, perhaps.

Phillip Fry: That proves it!

Documentary: Sadly, logging and human settlement today threaten what might possibly be his habitat, although if it’s not, they don’t. … Bigfoot is a crucial part of the ecosystem if he exists. So let’s all help keep Bigfoot possibly alive for future generations to enjoy, unless he doesn’t exist. (From, “Bigfoot, Endangered Mystery”)

Wikipedia cites only one study, and it’s on how the atmosphere might be effected by the amount of sunlight (energy -> heat) that it receives. It includes for discussion, speculation that “Venus may originally have had oceans if its initial water endowment was close to that of Earth. In other words, it may have had lots of water if it had lots of water, but who knows?

Documentary: Several billion years ago Venus’ atmosphere was much more like Earth’s than it is now but it was destroyed by a runaway greenhouse effect perhaps, …

Bill Nye: That proves it!

Documentary: … although if it didn’t, it wasn’t.

What is the actual evidence that Venus was once like Earth? There is none. Earth’s history includes vast oceans and evolution of life that transformed carbon dioxide into oxygen. CO2 rich environment early. Less CO2 in the atmosphere as a result of water and life. There is no evidence that Venus had such a history. No evidence that its atmosphere was once more like the Earth’s is now. If it somehow miraculously did, it would quickly have changed because of the greater amount of sunlight hitting Venus’ surface, which is about 35 million miles closer to the Sun than the surface of Earth.

If you’re still worried about global warming, don’t be. By the end of the episode, Fry gets his nose back and Lrr, ruler of the planet Omicron Persei 8, makes up with his wife. Most importantly, Bigfoot survives – so you’ve still got that going for you.

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  • http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/index.php sunsettommy

    I see that both Jay and Illustrator has nothing intelligent to say for a counterpoint.

    Just spew out pointless baloney.

    LOL.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    Oh dear, my oh my Jay. Ad homs aside, you really don’t seem to have a case to present.

  • http://jayhammers.blogspot.com/ Jay Hammers

    I guess I just think Roger’s posts are silly.

    Always claiming global warming skeptics have “won”, that 95% of global warming claims are “disproven”, accusing Democrats and Barack Obama of being evil overlords who plan to take away all civil liberties while at the same time complaining that THEY are the ones trying to instill fear in the populace through the global warming “scam”…. And phrases like these, “The leaked Climategate emails and data that’s sent shock waves through the warming camp lately” – patently dishonest and misleading, Roger is good at sewing fear and misinforming.

    Everything he says is an obvious lie, an attempt to mislead without providing evidence to support his mumbo jumbo.

    If readers find his mumbo jumbo interesting then great, it’s good filler. But I’ll just keep laughing.

  • http://stormbringer005.blogspot.com/2008/04/as-world-burns.html Stormbringer

    Not sure if Hammers is joking or not. If he is not joking, he needs to be shown that MND is not exactly a “men’s site”. If he would like to be consistent, he should police the site and tell Alan Korwin, Gordon Finley, editor Paul Elam and others to clam up on their own crazy, worthless posts. Those of us who are not locked into ideology and propaganda can think for ourselves. Fortunately, most of us who DO think for ourselves and abandoned the global warming nonsense in favor of actual, untampered evidence.

  • http://jayhammers.blogspot.com/ Jay Hammers

    Thanks for the link, illustrator. I don’t think Roger understands this is a men’s site and not a platform for his crazy worthless posts.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    It’s hard to believe that there might be an organization with less credibility than the IPCC. But if there is one, the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize committee is probably it. In any case, the award in no way provides scientific validation of the IPCC’s claims.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    rotflol. Someone ought to remind Bill Nye that the bar for winning a Nobel Prize is not so high as he might suppose.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    illustrator

    In other words, you have no comment and the book you mention is worthless. Or do you feel that you’re doing a good job talking to skeptics?

    BTW: We’re not called “skeptics” anymore. The debate is over and your side lost; so now we’re just called winners.

  • illustrator

    Wow. You’re so brutally ignorant of science it’s really pointless to debate anything you say here, because you’re not saying anything other than, “is not-nyahh nyahh- eggheads suck!”

    Anyone reading this should try grist’s “how to talk to a climate change skeptic” for sourced, scientific information relating to climate change. Or you could continue to believe the class dunce here.

  • http://stormbringer005.blogspot.com/2008/04/as-world-burns.html Stormbringer

    I like it. Bonus for me, you pointed out that advocates tend to ignore the big, obvious things. You mentioned two: “What do normal people call heating of the Earth’s atmosphere? ……… Summer.” The other was the amazing use of Venus, which is “about 35 million miles closer to the Sun than the surface of Earth”.

    They miss those things? Agonizing.

    I guess Mars is embarrassing, because it is warming, too, but there are no humans to cause the problem. Must be that big, hot ball of light in the sky has something to do with it.

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  • jjtaup

    But what happens to Nye?







Right.

Man up.

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