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How It All Ends : The Dumbest Video on the Web

2010-03-01
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If I tell you that it has to do with global warming, your interest level might drop a thousand fold. Stupid “climate change” videos are everywhere, including classrooms where unsuspecting children have their reason replaced with biodegradable compost. But in the spirit of Alfred Nobel, the prize goes to a video that has had an enormous world-wide impact on the weak of mind, more indelibly perhaps than Al Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth.

How It All Ends by high school science teacher Greg Craven has been such a hit on YouTube (since 2007), that he’s offered to let you pay for it on DVD. If you really want to throw money away, killing trees and increasing atmospheric CO2 in the process, you can also buy the short paper-back version with the long title What’s the Worst That Could Happen?: A Rational Response to the Climate Change Debate.

Mr. Craven’s claim: You can make a rational choice about whether to support political action on global warming without considering whether there’s really a problem to address. Make no mistake about it; he expects you to support political action even if you’re not convinced that climate change is a problem. It defies common sense, obviously. But once again, we’re asked to ignore the obvious for a little more compost in place of reason.

He puts his political action argument in the form of a “risk analysis;” one that I’m sure would not survive a cursory review in a first year business course. The bottom line is that if you feel confused by the global warming debate, then you should definitely favor draining trillions of dollars from the world economy even if it causes a world-wide depression and you starve to death as a result. It doesn’t matter whether the trillions spent address any real problem or whether political action could do any good even if a real problem exists. You don’t need to think about that.

You don’t need to think about that because Mr. Craven does it for you, replacing your uncertainty with the fear that we’ll face dire consequences if political action is not taken. Here’s the trick. He says if you are not certain either way, then you must accept that the alarmists’ view “might be” true. If it “might be” true, then he asserts that you must treat it in your analysis as if it is true. In other words, if you don’t know that it’s true, then it’s true. And by the way; even if you are absolutely certain that global warming is not a problem requiring political action, you’re still instructed to act as if it is. After all, you’re not infallible (like the warmers are); which equates to uncertainty and by his default reasoning tips the analysis in favor of political action.

Real-world risk assessment does in fact require that you understand what you’re talking about. The point is to understand risks and assess their impact. There is no magic that transforms not having a clue into “a rational response” to anything.

Bottom line: Mr. Craven is preaching fear of the unknown: telling you to forget about knowledge and reason and to allow yourself to be driven by global warming fear-mongering without question. Be afraid of what “might be” imagined as true – even if it’s not. It makes you wonder what other compost he might be stuffing into the heads of high school students in place of reason.

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  • Roger F. Gay

    Solid evidence that the whole scam was based on fraud. Al Gore dodging “invitations” from the US Senate to respond to criminal charges. The IPCC trying to stay alive by reorganization even though there’s no reason for it to exist. Politicians dropping “global warming / climate change” rhetoric from their policy marketing vocabulary.

    Yet, this guy is still trying to make a buck telling people they should be afraid of a lie. How creepy is that?

  • jjtaup

    Not a bad idea, Roger. Why not?

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    jjtaup;

    Since you’ve obviously gone to a lot of effort, may I suggest that you post a review on Amazon for each of the three DVD offers and the book he has posted there.

    I note that on the offer at the link in this article, some friends have given his video raving 5 star reviews.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    Great comments all! I don’t know if Greg will be back. His purpose in posting seemed to be an attempt at getting a promo for another of his videos; perhaps focusing marketing more where he wants it. Motivated by money rather than truth, apparently. He’s certainly seen an enormous amount of criticism, eventually shutting off text comments under one or more videos on YouTube and issuing a statement that he’d added new material in response (another video or 5 pushing the same argument).

    Comments under other videos seem constantly patrolled by zealous warmers working the same old Al Gore lies about “scientific consensus” and that anyone who disagrees fell for the Big Oil conspiracy etc. quickly degrading to name-calling.

    It’s as if they still think that nobody’s noticed that Al Gore is in the energy business (i.e. oil, coal, gas, ….) and making a hefty profit from it. Or maybe they’re just not bright enough to have noticed it themselves.

  • jjtaup

    Greg, I watched your two videos, “The Most Terrifying…” and “How it All Ends.” No, science still has not proven the non-existence of God, but I’ll give you props for style. However, risk analysis solved the AGW debate many years ago. The “nays” have it.

    Forgive me for not having watched (read?) the seven more hours of supporting video, but it won’t be necessary. Two flaws in your argument, and they are fatal.

    The first is the severity of the disaster in F/Y. (I’ll reference the boxes according to thei Row/Column intersection.) It’s not just the $$ and it’s not just the U.S. It’s something much more important, having to do with the soul: in a word, freedom. The eternal question is whether we shall live freely and openly, choosing our own futures and exercising our own will, or shall merely survive, our bodies prostrate and wasted, our tongues forever extended under the tyrant’s boot.

    Box F/Y guarantees the latter. There will not only be money taken from us. There will be our children, sacrifices to the Malthusian dystopia. There will be the sentencing of the third world to hell, suffering from lung cancers caused by cooking without electricity or gas, and dying of not only once contained malaria, but now all manner of disease. There simply will not be enough carbon credits to expend on their medical care. There will be our homes, whose form and function will be dictated to us by the grand ones who fly in the sky. There will be the elderly, who require too much gas in the winter to be kept alive.

    In short, all will be taken from once free men, because there is an angry god to appease–and so very golden it will be for the latter day high priests.

    Your second flaw is your assignment of odds. To wit,

    “…Look at what the professional organizations are saying. The more prestigious they are, the more weight you can give their statments, because they’ve got huge reputations to uphold and don’t want to ever say something that later makes them look foolish…”

    I take it you haven’t been in a college classroom lately. More directly, the more prestigious the organization, the less weight you should give to their assessment. Why? Because as they become prestigious, they become political. Our universities and august societies today function solidly as government sycophants. Please read http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/sciences_big_problem.html for an explanation.

    Here’s how the analysis should have been done. For the sake of conciseness, I’ll give each box a score, since to qualitatively describe the outcomes would be too unwieldy here. Box F/Y gets a -100; F/N gets a 0; T/Y gets a -10; T/N gets a -100. The meanings? I’ve just explained box F/Y. It’s very bad. I’ll agree that the diagonal T/N is also very bad. I’m being very generous with T/Y. It’s actually worse than a -10, because there have been many reports and admissions that even if AGW (or even just GW, or destabilization, or whatever flavor you wish) is happening, there’s very little we can do about it. In fact, when man presumes to be God, he usually causes great harm. But, I’ll be generous and only go down to -10. Box F/N is 0, since nothing’s lost or gained here.

    Your probabilities are also off. I’m talking row-wise here, i.e., as to the validity of AGW. Now, I’ll grant some credibility to a professional organization up to the point it shows me it has something at stake. That’s simple: funding. I’m naturally a loner, and I was taught in–let’s see, I think 1st grade–that the argument from authority is the weakest of all.

    Yes, certain arguments have been put forth to show that my breath is heating the planet. They’re very loose and only arguments of plausibility. By no means have these theories been vetted. We’ll dismiss the models here, since we know that if the answer is already known, invariably the student will produce it accurately. On the other hand, we will not dismiss the “handful” of scientists who not only demur, but also offer other rather well-substantiated theories for our “current warming trend” (in quotes because even that trend has not been established). And of course, they’re not a handful, either–nonetheless, it’s a lesson I learned in–I think 2nd grade–that numbers do not determine truth.

    So we are in a position where nothing like proof of AWG has been produced. Perhaps nothing like proof that it is not happening has been produced either. But it is a fundamental teaching of elementary statistics that the null is to be accepted until the alternate has been proven. You don’t prove the null. That’s why we have “innocent until proven guilty” and “first, do no harm.” Otherwise we would be daily confronted with cackling Henny Penny’s. Thus, the “F” row deserves a 90%, while the “T” row deserves a 10%. Note that, if it were your heart at stake and you were told it must be replaced with a mechanical pump, I believe you would demand a high degree of proof; otherwise, you would similarly assign probabilities, i.e., you would accept the null.

    So the calculation? Expected “points” if we select the Y column: -100*90% + -10*10% = -91.

    Expected points if we select the N column: 0*90% + -100*10% = -10.

    Please correct your videos and repost.

  • Mr. J

    The old guy in that other video, “the most important video you’ll ever see”, is the REAL looneybin, the “professor” from Colorado…A “professor”?……SCARY.

  • http://jayhammers.blogspot.com/ Jay Hammers

    And Robert, I hope you don’t take offense when I refer to your posts as stupid. If you wouldn’t post something that wasn’t chock full of falsehoods and logical failures I could treat it with some measure of respect. But what you’re posting is not in good faith and I believe you know that. All you’ve done here is twist the content of the video – all you’ve done is lie. And then you’ve used logical fallacies to critique what you’ve falsely claimed was said. How do you expect to be taken seriously if everything you say is a lie about a lie and you know it?

  • http://jayhammers.blogspot.com/ Jay Hammers

    “Mr. Craven’s claim: You can make a rational choice about whether to support political action on global warming without considering whether there’s really a problem to address.”
    Nope.

    “It defies common sense, obviously.”
    Nope.

    “He puts his political action argument in the form of a “risk analysis;” one that I’m sure would not survive a cursory review in a first year business course.”
    Nope.

    “He says if you are not certain either way, then you must accept that the alarmists’ view “might be” true. If it “might be” true, then he asserts that you must treat it in your analysis as if it is true. In other words, if you don’t know that it’s true, then it’s true.”
    Nope.

    Are you really this dense? Honestly, man. Or maybe you’re well aware that everything coming out of your mouth is BS.

    Thanks for the link, though, I like it!

    “The point is to understand risks and assess their impact.”
    He does provide support for his assertion that global warming is likely. I’m sure if you took the fact that most scientists, and especially climatologists, are supportive of anthropogenic climate change you would come to the conclusion that there is a fair chance it is valid.

    “Mr. Craven is preaching fear of the unknown: telling you to forget about knowledge and reason and to allow yourself to be driven by global warming fear-mongering without question.”
    Uh huh. What is it exactly YOU’RE doing? Is it fear-mongering, or stupidity-mongering?

    Please, someone tell me Mr. Gay is a caricature of a global warming skeptic.

    “While reducing waste may be a good thing, the damage caused by the environmentalists would far outweigh that small good.”

    And Greg, not everyone here is an idiot, I assure you. I suggest you take up the cause of men’s rights if you find the time!

    Here’s an introduction: http://jayhammers.blogspot.com/p/about.html

  • jjtaup

    Greg,”the flaw”?! You mean you spent all that time and energy on making the first video only to have “the flaw” pointed out to you after Santa delivered all the presents and drank all the milk? That’s like building a road that cuts out for a mile while the imaginary path runs over a canyon, the engineer finally being notified of the oversight by kids throwing stones.

    Maybe I’m being unfair, since I haven’t watched your video. I’ll make the educated guess that your risk analysis pretty much sews up the “need for action,” plus or minus a couple hundred log odds.

    If that’s the show, I’m going home early and getting a refund. Seen it, heard it, been there, done that. Benefit of doubt, to be sure–there’s always something left I haven’t considered. I ain’t bettin’ on it, though.

    Greg, any student who couldn’t see enough to crumple up the AGW paper and feed it to the dog at least several years ago isn’t fit to have a diploma. Too bad “big education” doesn’t agree. We all pay for it, and with our lives. There’s never, ever been nearly enough proof of AWG or of its consequences, in the light of the serious, awful costs for mistakenly “acting,” for doing so much as holding in one’s flatulence.

    Greg, your a devout worshipper of the golden calf. It’s that simple. You believe first, then fashion reality after. And since you have no other god in which to fasten your soul, you sell it to the sexiest bidder. Ain’t nothin’ new under the sun.

    I’ll watch your video, nonetheless. I’m always willing to believe that science just may have finally proven the non-existence of God.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    Greg;

    You’re telling people they should support political action on global warming whether it’s justified or not. Spreading tedious discussion over several videos does nothing to improve your argument. What you are preaching is just wrong.

  • Greg Craven

    Roger,
    While I’m flattered that you think my videos have had more impact than Gorelini’s, I think you’ve got your videos mixed up. The video containing the argument that you’re referring to is called “The Most Terrifying Video You’ll Ever See.” The flaw you’ve found was immediately pointed out to me, which is why that video was followed up by the ten-minute “How It All Ends,” which addresses the need for estimating probabilities for the possibilities in discussion (“AGW: True/False”). That video was followed by 7 more hours giving deeper risk analysis, all the way down to calculating expected values of the outcomes, and assessing credibility of sources for coming up with the inputs to those values. All tempered by the uncomfortable necessity of acknowledging that none of us is probably as smart or knowledgeable as we think we are, so it’s prudent to build a little bit of “But what happens if I’m wrong” into your plans.

    All the videos are available for download free at manpollo.org/downloads. The DVD is for ease of access if you wish.

    The book was a failed attempt at both streamlining and improving the risk-assessment-for-the-layman process that I muddled through in the “How It All Ends” video marathon.

    Hope this helps clarify.

    Cheers,
    Greg Craven

  • JutGory

    This sort of sounds like a modern variation on Pascal’s Wager.

    Pascal’s Wager was a thought experiment about the existence of God, whereby Pascal argued that, even if you could not prove God existed, you should believe in God “just in case.” He argued that, whether or not God existed, you should believe in God because, if God exists you will be rewarded, and if God does not exist, you will still have led a virtuous life.

    The problem with relying on this sort of reasoning is two-fold. First, climate change supporters have been harping on “science” for years (whereas Pascal understood God was beyond the realm of science); this is a huge set-back if they lose the science argument.

    Secondly, Pascal’s thought was that the outcome for the believer would be better whether or not God existed and the outcome for the non-believer (either Hell or a morally bankrupt life) would be worse.

    With this argument about climate change, the damage of believing in climate change when it does not exist is horrible when compared to believing in a God that does not exist. At least, as Pascal’s thought goes, you would feel compelled to lead a good life even if you received no reward. While reducing waste may be a good thing, the damage caused by the environmentalists would far outweigh that small good.

    This guy offers only misery for a false belief; Pascal had the better argument.

    -Jut

  • jjtaup

    “Hell is where there is no reason” (or some such).

    Reason follows faith–it doesn’t lead it. I realize how heretical that may sound, but it is the theory–and certainly not my own–that I have found explains a great, great deal of insanity.

    Most people accept as quite natural that a line is a line, and momentum carries objects thusly in the absence of a force. Yet, for some, “lines” are circles, and for them, just as naturally, momentum carries objects thusly. One would think that the preponderance of the evidence and incongruous facts would eventually win out and purge the error. I wish. It doesn’t work that way, I must at last admit. The facts are themselves curved to fit the “reality” one has chosen.

    Still, I think this makes sense. You either believe in Life or Death–God or Mammon–and your world is thus shaped.

    Craven now makes sense.







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