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Individuals and Structures

2010-03-12
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If you know anything about contemporary feminism, you know that the word “structure” is popular. Structures in culture and society explain why men and women behave the way they do. Oppressive structures keep women down, and maintain the integrity of the patriarchy. Free will barely exists, since we are all programmed by the structures surrounding us. The only time that individuals are emphasized in this kind of feminism, is when it comes to rebelling against these structures or to illuminate how individuals are hurt by said structures.

People who take issue with the radical feminist description of the world, usually want to switch the focus from cultural and societal structures to talking about individuals. After all, rights and responisibilities are individual, and therefore it doesn’t make much sense to talk about collective rights or identity politics. This is the argument usually put forward in Sweden when discussing whether to implement gender quotas in corporate boards of directors. The argument is that if we prioritize gender quotas instead of each individual’s right to be considered a candidate on his or her own merits, then we are putting identity politics ahead of basic individual rights.

While I agree with the view that rights are first and foremost connected to the individual, and not to groups, I think that anybody opposing feminism and feminist ideas without addressing structures ends up with fairly weak set of arguments. If the radical feminists are talking about individuals and structures, and the opposing side is only talking about individuals, then the feminist view of structures is the prevailing one by default.

At the moment, this is exactly what has happened around the Western World, and beyond. Whenever gender equality and structures are discussed, the seemingly self-evident assumption is that the current structures oppress women and favor men, meaning that women are the group we need to help. This in turn shapes everything from media coverage of gender issues, to policy making domestically and in Third World countries.

Denying the impact of structures is not only ineffective, it is fairly silly too. Whenever you meet someone from a different country you immediatly notice that they speak a different language, and have different customs and traditions. How can we explain this without acknowledging the importance of cultural and societal structures?

In the field of gender issues, this means that the only way to combat misandry and the prevailing perception that men are a privileged group that willfully oppresses women, is to describe how cultural and societal structures keep men stuck in their own kind of straitjacket:

  • It is a man’s job to keep society safe. This cultural expectation means that men are expendable in wars and in dangerous jobs.
  • Cultural expectations of men are narrow. Be successful. If you have a family make sure you support it. If you fail at these tasks, there’s no place for you in society. This in turn leads to men being 3-5 times as likely as women to be homeless or commit suicide.
  • The societal structure that is our educational system produces far more women than men who go to college and university.
  • Men’s harsh reality under the current structures leads large amounts of random street violence between men.

I could list more examples but you get the point. It is only when we dare to describe men’s situation in terms of being exposed to unhealthy structures that we can hold our own in a discussion with a radical feminist (or in a discussion with virtually anybody, since the basic views of radical feminism are embraced by almost everyone nowadays, without knowing where they got those views).

Many men are reluctant to talk about themselves in this way. Men don’t like being victims or abandoning their sense of self-reliance. In my opinion this is a good thing, and the strength of the men’s movement rests on this very attitude.

However, it is perfectly possible to describe the facts of men’s situation in neutral terms, without whining or abandoning individual responsibility for one’s own life. In fact, I believe that the only way to ever have men’s issues reach the political agenda is by daring to describe how men are hurt and suffer in the face of cultural and societal structures.

It is very hard for a politician, or for anyone wanting to come across as a decent person, to say that they don’t care about male suicides and male homelessness. Consequently, the very moment a critical mass of individuals start talking about structures hurting men, that is the moment radical feminism crumbles, once and for all.

Pelle Billing is an M.D. who writes and lectures about men’s issues and gender liberation beyond feminism.

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  • Ben

    In the U.S. we have special rights and subsidies depending on what gender or race that you are…….next comes religion.

    The idea is to divide men and women into separate socio-political groups as separate classes with separate glass interests. Our founding fathers knew this would lead to class conflict…This is why we find ourself here gentlemen.

    WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO LOBBY FOR REPRESENTATION OF OUR GENDER AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL!

    Understand that the consequences of inaction will be dire for men. The Council On Women and Girls has announced plans to enforce Title IX and “women first” policies in all Science, Technical, Engineering and Mathematics college courses through the STEM program at a time when men only obtain 40% of college degrees.

    The diversion of the Stimulus Package to women has been hard felt by many men. (See Article: No Country For Burly Men by Christina Hoff Sommers)

    AGAIN men’s groups and studies are needed in our colleges RIGHT AWAY and MEN NEED REPRESENTATION FOR OUR GENDER AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL ASAP!!!

    AN ACADEMIC CONFERENCE on the implementation of male studies will be held Apr 7th.

    Visit OnStep.org to donate to the parent initiative and MaleStudies.org for the conference info.

    We must stand together and form ranks!

    Thank you gentlemen……

  • Ben

    johntheother produced this video in reference to rights, groups and the individual. He is also an MRA.

    Who Has Rights, And Who Doesn’t

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdF7E5FHcpg

  • keith

    The Structure of a Vision

    I see a day when men goe to war with the truth and with justice.
    When the taking and giving of a life is more solemn a responsibility. That such choices of darkness despair and destruction are made in the heart of each individual man.

    I see a day when a man reaches for a destiny, and does not sucumb and submit to a fate.
    I see a day when men gather in tribes and tribunals, clans and caucus to discuss the measure of justice in war.
    Those that would trade their blood in calamity and chaos would define the determination from beginning to end.
    That no lie or deceit shall load a gun or take a life on the battlefield.
    When facts and evidence are delivered to us by our emmisaries and diplomats. So that each man may know the cause and purpose, so that cause and purpose may not be rescripted to a design foreign of the determination of those that serve and sacrifice.
    I see a day when each man who would serve and sacrifice for this determination will cast a vote on the declaration of war and only their votes shall be counted.

    I see a day when no government or representative, politician or president, shall conscript the people for a sacrifice unjust of those people or any other.

    I see a day when government serves only the people, in a service to empower each of us to govern ourselves and our purposes.

    Let the government conscript the companies and corporations only, in time of war to produce without profit or gain for the purposes of war and it’s early end.

    I see a day when the first shot fired is the loudest and the longest, let it be the release of our purposes, our truth, our justice and our determination. Let our friends and foes feel the very air around them thicken with our purpose, in hopes that a war may never exceed the first firing.

    I believe it is within structures that we gather to argue the political and the personal, to define the difference between destiny and fate. But change is individual. It forms inside us an invisible structure carried in our words and our actions.

    What disheartens me about a “men’s movement” if one should ever occur, is clearly the lack of vision. We cannot see more of ourselves in this pale of whining about feminism.
    I cannot see what feminism has to do with it.

    My son once asked me why his sister had freedoms he didn’t. I told him to go upstairs and pick out his favorite dress and blouse, put them on and come back downstairs to discuss his concern. He would not……….. and I will not.

    I believe we need to achieve a “critical mass” of men with vision, that are inspired to end their pain, oppression and grief. To reach again for freedoms yet unattained.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    Salesmen call it “selling the sizzle instead of the steak.” There’s no actual real life substance to identity politics so you can do with it whatever you want. Women are victims – certainly on a planet with 4 billion or so of them – there are clear examples – if that’s what you want to talk about. Pelle has it right. Us real people are in fact individuals. I know that cheating me doesn’t balance things for a woman having a problem in Bangladesh. It’s quite obvious that cheating me is just cheating me.

  • Tomi of Finland

    I checked the survey for two additional countries: Russia because I happened to mention it as an example of a non-democracy (which probably is a bit unfair because there are, after all, many countries that even less democratic) and Egypt because it’s a muslim country.

    In Russia men feel 0,5 points “more empowered” than women. In Egypt the difference is 0,7.

  • Tomi of Finland

    Is there any way to study whether The Structures suppress women or men? Which gender feels more empowered?

    According to the feminist theory there is no question about it. Men have created the (social) world and swim in it like he fish in the sea. Women feel lost and powerless — and are made to feel that way, if necessary, by violence or threat of it.

    So, folks, how do women — or men — answer when faced with this question: “Some people feel they have completely free choice and control over their lives, while other people feel that what they do have no real effect on what happens to them. Please use this scale where 1 means ”none at all” and 10 means ”a great deal” to indicate how much freedom of choice and control you feel you have over the way your life turns out?”

    Surely women feel that they have less control over their lives …

    I checked the answers at http://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/ for three quite random countries: Finland, USA, and Sweden.

    The bottom line is: no, women in general don’t live in a society that denies them their freedom in these countries. In fact they feel on average somewhat more empowered than men. The differences are small, though, just 0,2 points. The most empowered are somewhat more likely to be women than men.

    So, what to make out of it? My theory: patriarchy as a suppressive structure doesn’t exist and western societies favor women but not so much as certain activists seem to think.

    When these and other survey answers are compared, one can’t but wonder why there are so little difference between the sexes. In western democracies, that is. Russia, for example, is another story altogether.

    Does democracy work?

    Anyways, the idea of a strictly “gendered” society (is that the right term in English when meaning a system that produces vastly different outcomes based on gender) is proven to be false.

  • http://avoiceformen.com/ Paul Elam

    @ Dr. Billing

    Nice post, but I have to point to a caveat. Gender feminists do not engage in discussions, at least in my experience, that recognize the impact of structures on men. They never have.

    In fact, it was not long ago at all that I debated briefly with a feminist about combat assignment, conscription and the like, clearly a burden that has historically fallen on men.

    Her response to it was that the dominance of men in combat roles led to discrimination against women because men collected the lions share of post war military benefits, and that women were shorted on them.

    So in effect, if a man ends up legless from an IED explosion and comes home to painful rehab and a benefit check that will keep him living at below the poverty line, all for serving his country, then that is discrimination against women.

    Throughout feminist literature that I have studied and having unfortunately spoken to many of them over the years, I have never seen more than superficial lip service to the idea that sex related structures affect men.

    It is clear to me that it is because if they did approach the subject with intellectual honesty, they would have to sub to this website and and send in a donation to support sexual equality.

    At this point in time, I think it is more relevant to invest energy in speaking directly to MRA’s and men in general about the imbalance in these structures as opposed to speaking to feminists, who only engage MRA’s as a way to drown out the legitimate concerns about men with their own agenda.

  • Ken

    So then we reach a supposed “tipping point” when it’s revealed in the MSM that young women are out numbering young men almost 3:2 in college admition and graduation, and yet the silence is deafening from our politicians and social commentators. It’s almost as if, “so what, who cares?”. It’s seems to have been viewed as nothing more than yet another exalted victory over patriarchy for women.

    I mean, isn’t the fact that young women are attending college and young men are not an alarming trend that foretells a future with even more disenfranchised and angry men?

    My point is, even factual social data about men vs. women (the “Manscession is another one), is met with little concern or alarm from anyone. What will it truly take for the mainstream of society to at least stop and ask, “What’s happening to our men?”.

  • http://dannyscorneroftheuniverse.blogspot.com Danny

    The “Patriarchy” does not benefit most men, only a few at the very top. Gender feminism has long pushed the lie that all men benefit from “Patriarchy,” when overwhelmingly they don’t. In most cases, IMO, “Patriarchy” works to most men’s disadvantage. Gender feminism is based on this big lie as is domestic violence law and more refutation of gender feminist “Patriarchy theory” is needed.
    And it doesn’t help that many a gender feminists when confronted with this fact have nothing to respond with other than the lip service line, “Patriarchy Hurts Men Too.”, which is really not a genuine expression of concern but more of a, “ugh. I know it sucks for some men too so shut up!”

    It is natural that they assume the mantle of overt protection. It is just as unnatural to suppose that this makes them expendable.
    And it is also totally unfair to not only expect men to take on the mantle of overt protect and extremely unfair to chasitise men who do not take on the mantle. Its one thing for a man to take up the defense because he wants to its quite another to tease, berate, and otherwise shame a man that didn’t on the premise of “That’s what men are supposed to.”

  • jjtaup

    You make a very good point. Structures do contribute to the definition of the individual; likewise individuals create structures. It’s one (beautiful?) knot, lacking a clear causation–but certainly worth describing and parsing.

    Poor thinkers easily “discern” the causatory pathway. Thus, it is easy for a feminist to argue that kitchens and long dresses imprison women. Of course, such flacid argumentation supposes that the kitchen and long dress was imposed first, with the being then conforming. Hogwash. While earth may be stirred up into the heavens by wind, each gravitates to its natural habitat, thereby creating that habitat. The analysis is far more complex than at first glance.

    On a separate note, I am concerned by many articles I read lamenting points such as the one Mr. Billing makes regarding the duty of men to keep society safe. We are here talking about the “hard” aspect of security, for women are just as required to keep society safe by properly rearing their children.

    Am I not to believe what my own eyes and ears and mind tell me? Men are stronger. They are more adept with tasks requiring logical sequence and composition. They are more attracted to weaponry. It is natural that they assume the mantle of overt protection. It is just as unnatural to suppose that this makes them expendable.

    I am aware that the modern perversion of this and similar formulae lead to the exploitation and diminuation of men–but that is a perversion. While I will fight the perversion to my dying day, I will not pretend that what is plainly there for eyes to see does not exist: Namely women are women and men are men.

  • Ray

    The “Patriarchy” does not benefit most men, only a few at the very top. Gender feminism has long pushed the lie that all men benefit from “Patriarchy,” when overwhelmingly they don’t. In most cases, IMO, “Patriarchy” works to most men’s disadvantage. Gender feminism is based on this big lie as is domestic violence law and more refutation of gender feminist “Patriarchy theory” is needed.







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