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How Misguided Feminism Prevents Relationships

2010-05-06
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Do men avoid dating successful women? It certainly seems to be a common perception, and British writer Zoe Lewis is so sure of the phenomenon that she claims to understand why men won’t date successful women. According to Lewis, one of her former boyfriends explicitly broke up with her due to her intelligence and professional success:

He told me that he just didn’t want to go out with a woman who was clever and successful. He said it meant that I could never let any discussion go, or concede a flawed argument; I had to solve problems when they arose, and would argue political points with him.

Apparently Zoe Lewis cannot take a hint. The problem quite obviously was not her intelligence nor her success, but the fact that she would never let any discussion go or concede a flawed argument. That kind of behavior has nothing to do with being clever or successful, it is simply the behavior of an obnoxious person!

Let us have a look at another of Lewis’ examples of how men supposedly cannot handle a strong woman:

I invited my new boyfriend to see me perform my one-woman show on stage in London. Before he walked in to the play, we were tactile and it struck me that I had high hopes for the relationship.

An hour later, after watching me on stage and then networking with a group of high-powered theatre people at the aftershow party, he became distant.

Of course he became distant! You invited him to come with you and then you proceeded to ignore him. If you wanted to be able to network freely then it would have been better not to bring a date. Why are you blaming him for becoming distant when you are the one who ignored him first?

The problem here is not that she is a strong and intelligent person, the problem is that she tries too hard to be strong and independent. A relationship cannot be about independence only, if it is, then there is no actual relating going on. How can you form a relationship without vulnerability and connecting to your partner?

Surpringly, Lewis seems to have grasped some of these insights, in spite of her inability to correctly interpret why men pull away from her:

Modern women have learned to regard men as the competition, in order to get ahead professionally. And while men can accept this female aggression in the workplace, they evidently can’t in relationships.

Why would you want to be aggressive towards a man you’re dating? And why would you expect men to accept female aggression in a relationship? These expectations are absurd, and I’m happy that you’ve finally figured out what should have been self-evident.

These days I try to focus less on the flaws of feminism, and more on the potential in educating people about men’s issues. However, in this case I cannot help but blame feminism. Why else would a woman have these strange ideas about relationships? Common sense tells us that being cold, argumentative and aggressive is a lousy strategy for having a nurturing relationship, and yet this seems to be exactly what the writer has pursued in her dating life.

Towards the end of her article, the writer comes up with the most odd quote of them all:

Men love vulnerable women. We need to accept that, just because we’ve changed, we can’t expect them to. I don’t think they can.

So we cannot expect men to start liking cold, argumentative and aggressive women? Wow, that is a surprise. Do you as a woman like men who are cold, argumentative and aggressive? If not, then why do you expect men to like that kind of behavior in you?

Personally, I believe that men and women (on average) have some different preferences when looking for a relationship. Men place more importance on looks and softness, and women on status and confidence. But there are a lot of similarities too, especially when looking for a long term mate. Men and women alike appreciate a partner who is warm, relaxed and not overtly aggressive.

How can these common sense insights have been lost? The only answer I can come up with is that misguided feminism has taught a generation of women that men are opponents and not allies. This insight makes me tremendously sad.

Pelle Billing is an M.D. who writes and lectures about men’s issues and gender liberation beyond feminism.

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  • http://www.wix.com/MarkBernard/Mark-Bernard-Photography daddio

    “I think, as a group, todays expression: “she’s just not that into you” fits well how most women feel about most men. Women are into money and if we want to give it to them they will take it. Women also find us fun to toy with, kinda like a cat toys with a mouse it caught.

    It is just hard for men to accept this. We must if we are to move forward succesfully in our lives.”

    This is so true. I wish more men, especially young ones, would learn this before it is too late. I think it is up to us older, more epxerienced men to try to get this across to the upcoming generations.

  • Cire Hussein

    These feminism-infected women are so purblind that they can’t see that they are destroying the cultural ground on which they themselves stand.

    They are getting rid of their own people due to a low birth rate and are creating the opportunity for men from other stronger family-based cultures to take control of their country, not feminist women/wimmin.

  • Patrick Hynes

    Things may start to change in the US and Europe as Western culture changes. Hispanic and Muslim women are much more family-oriented than white American feminists. Maybe as the white population disappears due to its low birth rate the family will make a resurgence.

    Unfortunately for me, I’m a white male. My family line will end with me.

  • keith

    @ Mickey T

    “How about more suggestings here on gaining our manhood back, rather than whining about women not liking us anymore.”

    I might suggest to you, that you cannot gain back something (manhood) that does not exist. It is much like attempting to gain the appropriate costume to re enter a party that is under way.

    There is a point at which seeking validation by the male is counter productive to his ability to form focus, to self emanate his life principles, and to engage the violence of his nature creatively.

    I have noticed a distinction between the male and female. It is violence and it’s implementation. One might suggest that the male implements violence, the female nurtures the outcome. The oblique imperative of violence may be represented by procreation. The sperm swims violently to fertilize the egg. It is biologically programmed to battle competitors. It’s violence is an oblique imperative to existence. Conversely no violence no existence, resulting in menstruation, death of the egg, or more aptly, death of it’s potential.

    For myself I have realized my life at this time lacks meaning and focus.
    I like you am attempting to gain back. It is not my “manhood” I am looking for, rather the essence and understanding of my violence and my ability to manifest it creatively and direct it into or onto a potential. Which I am attempting to discover without sex and women.

    The upshot of this article for me is that women do not understand the oblique prerogative of male violence, it’s creativity, and the desire to seed potential. I’m not looking for someone else to do it for me. I am engaged in understanding my own and directing it in a fulfilling way.

    It’s a guy thing.

  • irlandes

    Rich, pre-nups in virtually every state in the US are not worth the paper they are written on. Most states allow the judge to tear them up if in any way he thinks the result is “injust” which means pre-nups are worthless.

    I am appalled that in 2010 there are men in the US who don’t know that.

    Any lawyer who tells you he can write a good one is lying. He wants money for writing it, then for fighting to defend it when she asks the court to break it, and he knows you will lose.

    There might be one or two states which pretend to honor them, so she moves to another state.

  • Mickey T.

    Do you suppose men might be doing something to make them “like” us less?
    Do you think it’s possible that’s exactly what the want you to think? So when they throw you a glance, you think they’re doing you a favor. And when they let you get in bed with them, they know that you feel like they’ve given you the ultimate. Is it any wonder they get to call all the shots surrounding sex.
    If we are ever to change this terrible situation we’ve come to, we must try stop “whining”. When a women acts as if she doesn’t “like” you, put your tongue back where it belongs and give her the “see around the block”. It may not be possible many times, but I believe it’s possible enough to make a difference.
    Men are men, and women are women as they’ve always been. When men demand respect (it won’t easy) THAT will make THE difference. How much would “like” a women who you have no respect for? Why do we still respect them while they abuse us.
    How about more suggestings here on gaining our manhood back, rather than whining about women not liking us anymore.
    Marc Rudov got it right, “grow a pair”.

  • keith

    As a man my job is something I have to do to afford to live. I have never seen the need to aggrandize myself by what I do. When someone asks me what I do for a living, my typical answer is I breathe. This really confounds women and most men get the message but not all. I just don’t feel that how I make money is some kind of rubber skin I have to stretch over my existence. I like to think my existence is a little more complex than how I earn money.

    To be with a woman that believes her job is some kind of religion, is like worshiping in a religion that thinks it’s some kind of woman. To explain this statement would be to say, I’M TIRED OF BEING SOMEONE OR SOMETHINGS PIECE OF INVENTORY.

  • Jim

    “It’s been at least 5 generations of women that have rejected family in our society. Women just don’t like men as much as men like women. Men who will not accept this are grist for the mill. Go at it boys.”

    Those are some of the most depressing words I have ever read. Because they are clearly, undeniably true.

  • Gone South

    I moved to a Southern state where I met and married an intelligent, church-going nurse. I steered clear of lawyers and academics who were also available. She respects me because she has had positive experiences with boys and men while growing up, and because that is how she was raised. I am very happy, and I am highly motivated to help her in life. Religion and place matter!

  • chris

    Biologically only a few guys needed to impregnate the women. I think this suggests that men should be more adapted at friendship/brotherly love over romance than women are.

    Its not long before men get fed up of being expected to live on the 50′s while women are all about self fulfilment. If we are just their accessories, fuck it… fine by me.

  • chris

    From a biological perspective it only took a few men to impregnate the women. That suggests to me that men should also be more adapted at not being with the opposite sex. In other words if some of the men in the village chose strong friendships/brotherly love over romance it wouldn’t really matter. But if women chose the same thing the birth rate could go down.

    I don’t think its that long before men get fed up of being told to live in the 50′s while women just looking for self fulfillment. If they want to view us as just accessories then so be it.

  • PolishKnight

    SingleDad,

    There are lots of women who treat men better who are born in foreign countries. Men don’t need to get used to it. This is why feminists passed IMBRA for the same reason that steel unions sought to cut off foreign steel.

  • PolishKnight

    I like to be the devil’s advocate so here goes: Pelle reveals his own problem, similar to the woman, in accepting reality when he says he’s sad that “misguided feminism has taught a generation of women that men are opponents and not allies” For one thing, as I will show, that’s not the truth. Secondly, he should accept reality for what it is rather than what he WANTS it to be!

    Women don’t need “misguided feminism” to teach them to demand men live up to breadwinner standards while demanding “equality” in the workplace. That’s simple human GREED. I put equality in Dr. Evil double quotes because feminism never really achieved equality for women but rather a variety of special privilege handouts such as affirmative action to get paid far more than a man would under similar circumstances. Rather than hold women responsible for THEIR choices, he blames feminism which is little different in it’s own way then feminists blaming the patriarchy for women’s inability to get away from sugar daddies they crave.

    I had this debate 25 years ago with a career woman who told me she expected full “equality” with men in the workplace even to the point of dominating those around her and then expecting them to treat her like a “lady” after punching out. Men are expected to have psyches that can handle continuous abuse from society as “abusers” if they don’t watch every word they say at work lest it’s sexist and then go home and deal with women shaming them “man up” ploys if they don’t play the alpha male.

    In the meantime, this woman obviously doesn’t live up to any standards of “ladylike” behavior but rather like brutes from hollywood films that women used to swoon over.

    Regarding women liking money and men liking beauty. A lot of golddigging/selfish women use that as a justification for their demands of money from men but these women also expect men to be tall. I know because when I wasn’t tall enough they let me know in no uncertain terms and even were jerks about it. When I met a woman I didn’t find attractive, I didn’t feel a need to bash her as having “fat woman syndrome.” But then again… a lot of them seem to have that problem. It’s amazing how there are so many unattractive or plain looking women who think they’re the cat’s pajamas and are angry that men don’t find them attractive. Actually, a number of men in our culture seem to have lowered their standards. I go to Europe and see 10 times as many pretty woman and I come back here and it’s like being a woman. I see few members of the opposite sex that turn me on so I can appreciate why they can afford to be demanding in other ways.

  • Mickey T.

    Throughout these posts, I keep reading the word “like” while seeing the word “respect”

  • jon

    “Women just don’t like men as much as men like women.”

    That statement has been bugging me too. I think there was a lag where this was true but I also think men are catching up in the not caring or liking department. Women have worked really hard at being unlikeable and I think many are succeeding.

  • David

    “Women just don’t like men as much as men like women.”

    I am not sure that this is exactly correct. It seems this way but this results from the incentives that society gives.

    Men don’t get anything from women without the woman’s consent so men have an interest in maintaining the relationship. In contrast, women have all kinds of ways of getting things from men with the consent of men so they have far less interest in maintaining the relationship.

    Curiously, I think for women marriage and divorce has become kind of a life script. It is almost never that way with men. A man will never marry with the intention of later divorcing.

    Some women don’t understand why men don’t still like them after divorce. I sometimes see this with my ex wife. She seems to be trying to initiate friendly conversation for example. I refuse. Things like loss of nearly half a million dollars (squandered), loss of a large portion of the childhoods of my children, her new boyfriend, having been maliciously arrested, etc. just scars a relationship IMOH.

    The feminist approach to relationships just doesn’t work for men. Women complained endlessly about men and now they have their way, but they don’t have men (at least not the smart ones).

  • Phillip

    How sad that for many of today’s women who fail to realize that a truly strong and successful woman is one that can act like a woman instead of developing a Napoleon complex in their attempts to become more like men while at the same time denouncing them.

  • Robert Stevens

    A normal man wants a partner not a competitor. A woman is designed to be that partner, it was this way in the begining and when the “feminist rebellion” finally fails, it will be that way again. Now, a man does not want a woman who has to be taken care off, just one who likes it and realizes a man, sometimes needs to be taken care of too! I don’t need it but I like it.
    So, fellas, take my advise get a women who knows she’s a woman and knows you are the man in the relationship, and she likes it that way.
    She can be independent, that only help you and she can be sucessful for the same reason. Such qualities are not bad if a woman knows who and what she is, and is comfortable with it. Lastly, remember such women are high maintenance, but they are worth it!

  • Mikey M

    To single Dad:
    I agree with what you wrote, the best thing that a man can do in this day and age is to accept the way things are in relation to women. They have move on away from men and they consider them as a secondary aspect of their lives. The reasons are simple, they do not have to depend on men for a family, feminist told them they were better off without men and they believed every word because it makes them feel powerful, they have become totally independent and now men must do the same. The only time men will be in a awkward position is when he will be young but eventually he will learn to live a single life and enjoy the freedom that comes with it. He will not have to listen to a biological clock that tell him he needs to find a partner and to start a family, by that time he will be very comfortable realizing he can still do whatever he wants with no restraints attached from being a father. He will not regret not having a family, most of the time a man will have kids by request coming from his wife. He will not have to endure working in a job that he hates, he can just quit and wait to find a better one while enjoying a trip to Europe with time on his hands not just a 2 week vacation with the kids. As you might guess, I have stayed single all my life and did what I wanted most of the time, I traveled to places I always wanted to see, I managed to date many nice women and I quit jobs I hated and always found better ones.
    Don’t believe anyone who insist that you will mature more if you get married, just remember you only live once and organize your youth so that you will not have to many regrets when all you have left is maturity.

    Yes at times I wish I could have found the love of my life and spend the rest of my life together but you can spend a hundred years finding the right person and never find it, it is even less possible today because women do not believe in a life long relationship with the same man, she has learn to live for herself and the young generations of young men will need to do the same or be very disappointed when the wife wants a new life and that does not include him. It is a time of many changes but not good changes for men, all he has left is himself and a great life if he can depend on himself for his happiness, he still enjoys a greater freedom that any of his brothers of past generations. I hope the young will realize they must become independent of women has women did of men

  • Rich Knight

    With many women who view themselves as successful, their opening line is something antagonistic, like ‘women have to work twice as hard’…

    …which is asking the man to accept the premise that he must be only working half as hard as her.

    That’s about the time to be mapping out exits.

  • Rodney

    I like to think a successful woman, someone who is without issues in the area, might get a grin. Generalization might get annoying.

  • Denis

    “I know I sound bitter, but if you think women will one day wake up and say….wow we we’re wrong, then you can join Neville Chamberlin hall of fame for intestinal fortitude in the face of a group that thinks you are a less evolved species than them.”

    “But one day the mass of women in America will likely see and understand what has really happened: men simply do not care anymore. Then they will realize just how alone they really are.”

    I’m not expecting women to wake up and say they were wrong. Zoe does not want to be alone-that’s why she has a “new boyfriend”. She is trying to rationalize (according to her own pre-programmed feminist biases) why she cannot find a man who wants to be with her. The problem as she sees it is with men. Big surprise there. I’m quite aware that women will go to any length to believe anything that fits in with their feminist programming-and to dispel anything that contradicts it. THAT is why women have not changed this thinking in over 40 years. Powerful men have given them everything they want. The women say to these men: “jump!”. These men then say: “how high?” Women expect all men to give them what they want. Plenty of other men have also done this. Some men have attempted to rationalize with women this gross unfairness in thinking. I did. (And went through the 4 stages I discussed below.) The response always is the “men are intimidated by successful, smart women” etc. etc. bullshit. So men have come to realize that they really can’t open the eyes of most women. These attempts at discussion are pointless. Much in the culture re-enforces these feminist perspectives. Popular culture, mainstream media, universities, legislation, religions, and so on.

    After 40+ years some women are getting it that: “Men simply do not care”. Eventually this will become widespread common knowledge.

    Will women figure it out and change?

    I simply do not care.

  • Rich Knight

    Many women do seek just a man’s gold, having no faith in men.

    Correspondingly, men need to protect their gold with a pre-nup because when women can get the man’s gold without the man, they will do that.

  • Rich Knight

    Great article.

    Women should be informed that men who are rich and handsome are dating nice, sweet, pretty 22-year-old models.

  • Mikey M

    She may be right about the man that felt insecure about her being a success,so what, that can happen to a lot of people and he may have many good qualities that makes him a good person, why is it so important that someone needs to be secure all the time, why do the man always have to be a John Wayne character. I have once dated a women who was very strong minded and I was proud of her, she was smart and good looking but the problem was that she would always have to show she was strong and independent and she would constantly have a need to compete with me, that would eventually lead to our break up, because there is enough competition at work and with everyone in your life the last place you would want to put on the boxing glove is not in the home with the lady in your life. This lady in the article should just leave a relationship if she doesn’t approve of his character and not assume their is no man who can deal with a over accomplish women.

  • Fiftysomething

    Wonderful article and interesting comments. There’s so much to be said about how a woman and a man should be today. Feminism has made it all so overly complicated. One simple thing though, whether she’s barefoot and pregnant and happy to be a homemaker, or a successful career mom with a asinine attitude and over-inflated ego, it’s important to realize that for a relationship, such as good old marriage, to last till “death do we part” takes some wisdom. All kinds of changes are unavoidable and inevitable in a “partnership.” Like it or not, marriage is a partnership. And like a business partnership, if there’s too much conflict all the time, the business at hand suffers, and chances of dissolution increase. The key is to recognize and adjust to situations and circumstances TOGETHER–no matter what. It takes respect for each other and mutual agreement to work things out. These two things (togetherness; respect and agreement) are not to be taken lightly. For example, the wife has felt sad and lonely all day–too bad, don’t take it out on hubby, go lie down and take a nap. Or maybe Daddy had a rough day at work and she won’t pamper him–tough, go get your beer out of the frig, sit down in front of the TV set, and shut up. It’s not easy. But this is what they both have to strive for. To put it another way, it really is a give and take sort of thing that NEVER ends. That’s the problem: These days, he’s right and she’s wrong; reciprocally, she’s right and he’s wrong. Trouble is, they both end up being wrong. And feminism doesn’t help with the philosophy that equality is the key. Wrong.

    P.S. I’ve been married to the same woman for over thirty-five years AND we are both ready for the next thirty-five years!

  • Ken

    Oh how fantastic it would be to meet an actual strong, independent woman in real life, (rather than in a writers fantasies). And no, just because you think you’re “strong and independent” doesn’t mean men think you’re a bitch. Did ya ever consider men think you’re a bitch, because you ARE a bitch?

    Here’s a simple tip next time you’re out on a date.
    BE NICE!

  • albert_pike

    I think that this article points out something that all of us men need to start paying attention to; namely that the game has changed, and men’s perceptions and expectations of what a ‘relationship’ is needs to evolve. Obviously women’s collective perceptions and expectations are changing, and men are still working off an old model. Perhaps we need to start _really_ asking what potential female partners will bring to the relationship, and measure that against what we are looking for. This, as opposed to the old fashioned way of thinking about what _we_ as men are able to provide in a relationship.

  • Matt

    @ Jon: “I find that having to compete with women takes all the fun out of any activity. I just don’t like it, it’s unnatural and unmotivating.” That’s a really great articulation. It’s a simple statement, yet in my mind, it’s profound. Man, that’s EXACTLY how I feel. I’ve never wanted to compete with females- not in school, at work, or in relationships. The core of my masculinity revolts against it. It’s not natural. Anyway, I liked your comment.

  • http://lookingbeyondthehorizon.wordpress.com Dabir Dalton

    Whenever I hear a female claim that men don’t like successful women I laugh at em just like I laughed in my Aunt’s (right in front of my Uncle) face when she claimed that girls mature faster then boys.

  • http://web.me.com/jupiterspaceport/Cyclotron_Majestys_site/The_Majestic_Blah/The_Majestic_Blah.html CM

    LOL – Good article Pelle. Down to earth reasoning – and funny.

  • http://lookingbeyondthehorizon.wordpress.com Dabir Dalton

    Now a days whenever I hear an female make the claim (especially one who is over the hill)that men don’t like dating successful females. I laugh at her just like I laughed in the face of my Uncle’s second wife’s face (right then and there in his presence) when she claimed that girls matured faster then boys. Girls like Zoe Lewis not only can’t take a hint but never ever grow up and unfortunately are a complete waste of time and effort.

  • Voice

    Very true SIngleDad, most people forget, or don’t even know, that feminism first came along in the 1880s.

    As for the delusions of grandeur that this women shows off i her article, it seems to be becoming more common. You can’t even pick up a mainstream newspaper without there being at least one article by an insecure, aging feminist whining about how great and perfect she is and how weak and foolish modern men are for not bending to her every whim. It’s almost as if they don’t want to be taken seriously.

  • Paul R

    Successful women are typically the mirror image of golddiggers. Golddiggers love you as long as you have the gold. Successful women already have the gold, so they don’t need you. At best you’re a toy to play with, at worst a competitor to best. And who wants that kind of relationship?

  • SingleDad

    I know I sound bitter, but if you think women will one day wake up and say….wow we we’re wrong, then you can join Neville Chamberlin hall of fame for intestinal fortitude in the face of a group that thinks you are a less evolved species than them.

    Without the second world war do you think they would have stopped? Without the Balkan war do you think they would have stopped? Without military intervention do you think Al Quida will stop bombing us? In Cambodia, would the Koumer Rouge have stopped, have the genocidal folks in Africa stopped even today?

    So give it alittle thought. It’s time to realize your situation and adjust.

    Do you miss your kids, then find alternatives…there are many out there, adoption, surragacy, etc. Women have wholesale taken to these methods, is it the optimal way to raise children, no. Should you do it, probably not. Have a burning desire to dedicate your life to caring for others who may return that love when they grow up, there are many paths open to you if you are open to them.

  • Denis

    Pelle-

    I really enjoy reading your stuff and thank you for all your efforts regarding men’s issues.

    Like others here, I was quite amazed to read that you believe this has affected only one generation of women. Here in America, it is much higher than one.

    I also take note that your insight makes you tremendously sad. Well, I’m no a psychiatrist but I heard that the stages of depression are: 1.) grief, 2.) anger, 3.) acceptance, 4.) moving on. I think this also explains how men have reacted to this situation with women in America for over 40 years. Here at this post you can read comments of men who have accepted this sad state of affairs. And men who have moved on. And you I’m sure, have run into angry men over the years as concerning feminism. I happen to believe it is the men who have grown much more (and much more mentally healthy)than the American women. Women younger than Zoe here in America will likely continue to follow Zoe’s path of blindness and self-delusion as have all the previous generations of women here. But one day the mass of women in America will likely see and understand what has really happened: men simply do not care anymore. Then they will realize just how alone they really are.

  • Ray

    “Do men avoid dating successful women?”

    Most of the successful women I’ve known have married successful men, then quite their jobs, which leads us to the obvious question, “How do we measure what constitutes a successful woman?” Is she one who works a full time job from 18 years old to retirement, or is she one who “lands” a successful man, then contributes to the wage gap myth by dropping out of the workforce?

  • Rodney

    Heh, and I thought it was abusive personalities and hostile environments… who knew.

  • Bombay

    Your article is very insightful. Thank you.

  • DonnieH

    Dear Pelle,

    I really enjoyed this article. You know what cracks me up? Women are always claiming that they are masters of The Relationship universe, and that men just can’t communicate, yet here we see a man telling this woman quite clearly that she’s a self-absorbed, argumentative jerk, but she, with her woman’s intuition and all, can’t grasp why he wouldn’t be thrilled to be around her.

    I am in the unfortunate position of having several older women (>35) as acquaintances. I often hear them loudly complain about men, that they’re all afraid to commit, blah, blah, blah. One thing that I have found is that it is absolutely useless is to try and explain to them in clear, honest terms, that it’s not that the men they meet don’t want to commit, they just don’t want to commit to her. That she has nothing he (or most men) would want. Zip. Nada. Trying to explain this is useless. They just get angry with me. So I’ve changed tactics. I now ask them questions (like Roissy, but for different purpose) to hopefully lead them to greater awareness:

    Me: So, what kind of man do you seek?

    Her: Rich, tall, rich, six-pack abs, rich, handsome, rich, smart, rich, intelligent, rich, kind, rich, funny, . . . (typically 100-300 requirements).

    Me: Wow! You have high standards, a very discriminating woman!

    Her: Why, yes, I’m quite the catch, thank you for noticing!

    Me: I bet a man like that would be attractive to a lot of women (at this point, her facial expression often starts to change). (And then, in my cheeriest voice) So, why would a man like that choose you?

    Next time you get an opportunity to try this, please do. It’s rather fun. After the last question, just agree and amplify (there are essays on this technique, easily found).

  • jon

    She’s not strong and independant, she’s contentious. This is a very obnoxious trait in anyone. I believe that men are learning to think of women as competition in general and that changes the relationship between the sexes fundamentally. This is another one of those things that doesn’t get much attention but I think it’s a big deal. I find that having to compete with women takes all the fun out of any activity. I just don’t like it, it’s unnatural and unmotivating. People have been telling me since I was a kid that I’d fall for some woman and be helpless to resist. This just doesn’t happen with the competition.

  • http://avoiceformen.com/ Paul Elam

    Another great article, Pelle.

    I also wanted our readers to know that own Pelle Billing has been drawing quite of bit of attention to his work, doing public speaking and being interviewed by radio, television and newspapers about men’s issues in his home country of Sweden.

    The voice of the MRM is growing and Pelle is a growing part of it. We are most proud to have his good works here at Men’s News Daily.

  • SingleDad

    It’s been at least 5 generations of women that have rejected family in our society. Women just don’t like men as much as men like women. Men who will not accept this are grist for the mill. Go at it boys.

  • SingleDad

    And in reading your article I wonder is what makes you think this has been going on for one generation. I would say at least 5 generations of women have been pushing their daughters away from relationships with men.

    It’s sad and men need to get used to it.

    I think, as a group, todays expression: “she’s just not that into you” fits well how most women feel about most men. Women are into money and if we want to give it to them they will take it. Women also find us fun to toy with, kinda like a cat toys with a mouse it caught.

    It is just hard for men to accept this. We must if we are to move forward succesfully in our lives.







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