Man Receives Oral Sex, Ordered to Pay Child Support

2011-02-27
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So, a man sued his ex-girlfriend for fraud and emotional distress after she secured a court order demanding he pay child support for their two year-old daughter. The reason? This woman saved his semen after performing oral sex and secretly impregnated herself. No, this is not a new plotline of absurd television show One Tree Hill but actual events that formed the basis of a 2005 legal battle in Illinois.

Although this case is six years old and garnered some media attention at the time, we recently came across it on Professor Jonathan Turley’s blog and couldn’t resist an opportunity to discuss it.

But before we get to the legal issues presented in this case, namely how a man can be ordered to support a child when his sperm was used without his knowledge, the soap opera-esque facts surrounding this situation deserve to be explained in greater detail.  Trust us.

It all began when Dr. Sharon Irons (an internist) and Dr. Richard Phillips (a family practitioner) began dating in January 1999. Dr. Irons led Dr. Phillips to believe she was divorced and within a few months, they became engaged. According to Dr. Phillips, the two discussed the possibility of having children and he made clear his intentions: that he did not want children until after they were married and any pre-marital sex would require the use of condoms. Throughout the course of their relationship, they engaged in only three instances of oral sex: they never went “all the way.”

On one of these intimate occasions, Dr. Irons did something rather remarkable: After fellating Dr. Phillips, she held his semen in her mouth (where it was suitable to sustain viability) and then inseminated herself with it. She did not inform Dr. Phillips of her actions.

Dr. Irons also never informed her boyfriend that she was, in fact, still married. Five months into their relationship, she confessed to Dr. Phillips that she was not divorced and he decided to end their relationship.

Fast-forward to November 2000, when, surprise! Dr. Irons slapped her surely stunned ex-boyfriend with court papers to establish paternity and child support for “their” daughter.

To quote Justice Scalia in 1989’s Michael H. majority opinion (a paternity case also dealing with convoluted family relations, although not as entertaining as here), “The facts of the case are, we must hope, extraordinary.”

Extraordinary they are, indeed. And while Dr. Irons’ act of stashing semen away definitely made for attention-grabbing headlines, the media focused more on the sexy- slash-crazy angle and less on the actual law. We decided to explore the legal claims advanced by the parties and the reasoning behind Dr. Phillips seemingly unjust obligation to support a child whose existence was beyond the realm of expectation.

In his suit, Dr. Phillips alleged the unauthorized use of his semen constituted actionable claims of fraudulent misconception, conversion and intentional infliction of emotional distress. A lower court dismissed these grievances, and he appealed.

The Appellate Court of Illinois found that a fraudulent misconception claim was only available for “economic” wrongs, and so dismissed this claim. (Dr. Phillips was suing for physical and emotional harms he alleged that he’d suffered as a result of Dr. Irons’ actions).

The court next turned its attention to the conversion claim. Conversion is “an unauthorized act that deprives a person of his property permanently or for an indefinite period of time.” The arguments on both sides of the conversion claim are worth noting.

Dr. Phillips argued that his ex-fiancé took his property, his sperm, without his permission to conceive a child. Dr. Irons countered by asserting the sperm was a gift: Dr. Phillips delivered it to her with the intention that she keep it because if he really wanted to retain his semen, he would have put on a condom and “kept its contents”.

The court agreed with Dr. Irons: Dr. Phillips cannot claim he was deprived of his property because he did not intend that the semen be returned.

Finally, the court considered Dr. Phillips’ claim of intentional infliction of emotional distress (IIED). To bring an IIED claim, the plaintiff must prove that 1) the conduct was “truly extreme and outrageous”; 2) the defendant had to intend, or be aware that, her conduct would cause severe emotional distress; and 3) the conduct did actually cause severe emotional distress.

The court stated that Dr. Irons’ conduct in deceitfully engaging in oral sex to procure the sperm necessary to impregnate herself would, according to any reasonable person, be considered “extreme and outrageous” conduct (Ed. Note: well, duh).  Considering the nature of Dr. Irons’ actions and Dr. Phillips’ clear expression of not wanting a child out of wedlock, the second element of IIED was met. For the actual distress, Dr. Phillips claimed a whole slew of anguish including nausea, loss of appetite, interference with his profession, insomnia and more, which was enough to keep the case alive.

The final decision or current status of the case is unavailable which means that the case is still being litigated or the parties settled.

Regardless, what confused us most about the case was that the child support obligation on behalf of Dr. Phillips was not contested. How could a father be forced to pay child support if the conception of the child was beyond (way, way beyond) a reasonable person’s expectation?  The court itself stated that the mother’s actions were “extreme and outrageous”, after all.

The answer? Public policy. In a note for the Drake University Law Review, A Man’s Right to Choose: Searching for Remedies in the Face of Unplanned Fatherhood, author Adrienne D. Gross explained the general policy in law of looking out for a child’s best interest in both child support and paternity statutes. Undisputedly, a child’s best interest is to have the financial support of both biological parents, regardless of their marital status, and according to Ms. Gross, “the child should not suffer from a parent’s indiscretion concerning the events leading to conception.”

Basically, if you father a child and the paternity is established, you are on the hook for child support payments. (A father can sue for IIED, if the mother’s actions in the conception meet the requisite level of crazy, but there is no guarantee he will win.)

A 1983 paternity case sheds some light on how New York courts balance the best interest of the child with a father’s dealing with an unwanted pregnancy and child support obligations in unorthodox situations. The father, established by paternity tests, had been assured that the mother was on birth control.  He alleged fraudulent misrepresentation and argued that he should not be responsible for child support. The court disagreed, and held that fraud and deceit have no bearing on determining child support obligations.

The court explained that the “primary purpose” of New York’s paternity statutes “is to ensure that adequate provision will be made for the child’s needs” and does not allow for the “consideration of the ‘fault’ or wrongful conduct of one of the parents in causing the child’s conception.” If the father really did not want to have a child, despite the woman’s assurance that she was on birth control, he should have used a condom during sex.

Decisions like this seem to signal, rather unfairly, we think, that a man can be held legally and financially responsible for any unilateral actions his partner takes to conceive a child, no matter how absurd or unforeseeable those actions are.

And Dr. Phillips seems to have been treated particularly unfairly. He didn’t even have intercourse which is the one and only act that, outside of fertility clinics, can foster a reasonable expectation of conceiving a child.  In fact, without intercourse (and outside of fertility clinics) creating a life is, simply, impossible.  There was no way, short of checking what his partner did with his semen after oral sex (do you know anyone who does that?) that he could have known that he could possibly father a child.

But the courts don’t care about how the egg was actually fertilized: because at the end of the day, there’s a child now involved.  And the concern, from a legal perspective, is whether or not the child will be adequately cared for, regardless of its conception.

Lesson to be learned: If you don’t want any babies, use protection – and make sure your partner isn’t hiding a test tube under the pillow.

 

Originally published on Legal As She Is Spoke

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  • Elevatedabove

    That’s terrible….. Try for legal visitation, she can’t deny u that

  • Elevatedabove

    Totally agree!

  • Elevatedabove

    Totally agree!

  • RemyThick

    There goes that saying… ” suck-a d*ck save-a-life”!!! Smh

  • RemyThick

    There goes that saying… ” suck-a d*ck save-a-life”!!! Smh

  • Mznin

    The woman was not crazy, she was desperate, sneaky and conniving. Why would the man decide after declining to pay child support for a child he doesn’t want, to decide to have custody? If he didn’t want a child , yes he should have worn a condom regardless of how that act is taking place. If he did the ol’ I’ll pull out, she could have still conceived. I do agree that her behavior was wrong and deceptive and he just got the wrong end of the stick but of course the child is the most important concern because it is a human life. He should still be required to care for her. Children are a blessing regardless.

  • T3chminer

    Leona, your mother should have swallowed.

  • T3chminer

    Leona, your mother should have swallowed.

  • http://profiles.google.com/delaynastarr DELAYNA BRADY

    wow, well it’s scandalous women like this that just makes it so hard for us decent and honest women. He should take the child since he is stuck with her and has to take care of her, I wouldn’t want any ties to that woman sh’s the lowest kind I can’t even call her a human being. Trust is a fragile thing and once a person loses it in one he seems to lose it in all.

  • Gsus1

    This always makes me laugh. At what point will his 50% spend 8 hrs in a hospital ER waiting for test results to come in? At what point does his 50% pay for her staying home from work due to the sick child being with fever all day and night? At what point does his 50% pay for her leaving work, picking the child up, doing homework, cooking, bathing, reading, checking homework? Does his 50% cover all medicines, special toothpaste, specialty food, specialty bed covers, toys, birthdays for the child’s friends, birthday parties for the child, field trips, lunch for the kid on field trips and during regular school days, Barrettes, hair care products, hair cuts, and a sitter for those days she has to work when school isn’t in, oh did I forget daycare? Sorry Charlie WHATEVER little money he gives for child support is REIMBURSEMENT for what she has already paid. And if getting her hair and nails done, going shopping for herself, and taking a personal day for herself is what she needs to do to decompress from taking care of you child she can spend you child support money that way. All those niceties she’s doing for herself is keeping her from killing your child! Have I left anything out? I agree some things are unfair, but such is life. Now in this case, he should sue for custody and ask for child support.

  • Browny2172

    @BrownSugar, Yes the father should definitely obtain sole physical custody of this little girl. Who knows what she’s teaching their daughter. Wow! This is simply unbelievable.

  • Biggswole53

    Oh! What about adultery. Wasn’t she still married. Nasty! Just Nasty.

  • brick 10

    if she wanted a baby that bad she should have hooked up with someone who wanted one just as bad.

  • brick 10

    if she wanted a baby that bad she should have hooked up with someone who wanted one just as bad.

  • Emma

    Look, here is the bottom line for those of you who don’t seem to get the whole mechanics of conception. If you engage in ANY type of sex, and there is any exchange of bodily fluids with active semen in them being exchanged, there is also the possibility of pregnancy. If you don’t want to have a baby with someone, don’t engage in ANY sexual acts. It’s that simple. If you are unwilling to do that, you need to accept the possibility that you may end up with a child. That is ALL. Any other expectation is just ridiculous, immature, and should be treated with exactly the level of respect that the courts have decided to give it – none.

  • Emma

    Look, here is the bottom line for those of you who don’t seem to get the whole mechanics of conception. If you engage in ANY type of sex, and there is any exchange of bodily fluids with active semen in them being exchanged, there is also the possibility of pregnancy. If you don’t want to have a baby with someone, don’t engage in ANY sexual acts. It’s that simple. If you are unwilling to do that, you need to accept the possibility that you may end up with a child. That is ALL. Any other expectation is just ridiculous, immature, and should be treated with exactly the level of respect that the courts have decided to give it – none.

  • Mrs Hines

    no he shouldnt pay.aint it law saying that if marry and have a baby from some one else that its the husband child no matter what

  • Mrs Hines

    no he shouldnt pay.aint it law saying that if marry and have a baby from some one else that its the husband child no matter what

  • Mrs Hines

    no he shouldnt pay.aint it law saying that if marry and have a baby from some one else that its the husband child no matter what

  • 14sbullock

    Crazy ass ex-girlfriend.
    He should be dismissed of paying child support, after all, he was responsible and did not have sexual intercourse.
    But for the sake of the child, he should be involved in the kid’s life somehow to make a difference, because at the end of the day, nobody wants to see a fatherless child.

  • 14sbullock

    Crazy ass ex-girlfriend.
    He should be dismissed of paying child support, after all, he was responsible and did not have sexual intercourse.
    But for the sake of the child, he should be involved in the kid’s life somehow to make a difference, because at the end of the day, nobody wants to see a fatherless child.

  • Pmkdvm

    Truly remarkable. If anyone doubts that gender discrimination against men exists I submit exhibit A. Deceit to this degree deserves jail time for fraud.

  • Pmkdvm

    Surely your not serious Elaine. No. It is very different. As absurd as it sounds a man would have to masturbate and manually inseminate his sleeping girlfriend that he had NEVER had vaginal sex with for a similar scenario with the shoe on the other foot.

  • Jameson1082

    Just listen to yourself. Stow the reactionary femenist rhetoric for a second and grow up. Beleive it or not, men don’t really want to control, dominate you or keep you down anymore. Your either our equals or you aren’t. You don’t get to have it both ways. “Oldest trick in the book?” Where in God’s name are you from?

  • ZHANA

    I AM A WOMAN AND THIS IS A MISCARRAGE OF JUSTICE!!! THIS WOMAN WAS WRONG ON ALL LEVELS!!! TO DO THIS TO THIS HONEST AND UPFRONT MAN????……. AND THE JUDGE NEEDS TO ROT FOR MAKING HIM PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT HE CLEARLY STATED FROM GET GO HE DID NOT WANT!!! SHE SHOULD NOT GET A DIME AND SHE SHOULD SUPPORT HER CHILD ON HER DOCTORS SALARY!!!! WHAT AN IDIOT BOTH SHE AND THE JUDGE ARE!!!!

  • Kimani2

    It is amazing that someone would want a child that bad. What do you tell your child about his/her conception? You have to really think about the consecquences for the actions you chose in life.

  • geri

    she used him. and she be the only one to suuport the child she created by deceipt.

  • Chr_sexton

    Their were two committing an act of sex together. It doesn’t say anything about either’s sanity. Once he made his deposit of semen into her whether it was oral or otherwise, he gave it up none-the-less. That’s why you wear condoms, to keep the sperm in a contained environment for disposal.

  • Keith

    Most states automatically declare the husband as the legal father. Must be different in that state.

  • Cooklashaun

    are you crazy , no man on god green earth . is that stupid to do that to a woman .

  • Cooklashaun

    are you crazy , no man on god green earth . is that stupid to do that to a woman .

  • Askelfarm

    As a DR, she could very well know her optimum ovulation time. Nothing more than spitting out the ‘sample’ and inserting it for a better chance of getting pregnant. She could have also done this even if he was using a condom, with a better percentage (ie: lack of contamination). In a sterile environment, with a properly controlled incubator, she could have ‘impregnated’ herself with the ‘sample’ several times.

  • Askelfarm

    As a DR, she could very well know her optimum ovulation time. Nothing more than spitting out the ‘sample’ and inserting it for a better chance of getting pregnant. She could have also done this even if he was using a condom, with a better percentage (ie: lack of contamination). In a sterile environment, with a properly controlled incubator, she could have ‘impregnated’ herself with the ‘sample’ several times.

  • Millionz

    Thats BULLSHIT!!!!!! She wanted that baby not him and regardless if its his sperm or not thats her child… thats why he shot in her mouth and not between her LEGS… The courts are FULL OF SHIT..

  • Millionz

    Thats BULLSHIT!!!!!! She wanted that baby not him and regardless if its his sperm or not thats her child… thats why he shot in her mouth and not between her LEGS… The courts are FULL OF SHIT..

  • Jksmith65

    Here’s the thing, first off this is a legal issue, not a moral one. And therein lies the problem. As long the only standard the courts use is “the best interest of the child” and they only consider it from a financial perspective, they dismiss what is most important in a child’s rearing. Love and feeling wanted. If a man is tricked into fathering a child there will almost always be a certain amount of resentment towards that child. Even if he himself is unwilling to acknowledge it, there will be a part of him that feels that way. And we all know children are probably the most perceptive of all of God’s creatures. So that in itself will instill a sense of doubt in the child which will color the relationship between father and child, mother and child, and most definitely father and mother. Also, courts ignore the financial gain received by the mother. No matter how you look at it, if she ever brings the father to court she stands to gain financially. Even if she is not looking to be supported (as in the cases of which happens with athletes and celebrities) herself for personal comfort, she stands to gain by the financial burden or raising the child being shared by the two parents, thus making her own financial obligation lessened. It is not unreasonable to believe that monies never having to be spent can be considered as money saved. Finally, whereas the courts in issuing a child support order are considering the welfare of the child through at least his or her first 18 years, they willfully ignore the long term psychological damage that having a strained tense relationship with or between their parents can bring. After child support has run out, the child still has to deal with the long term emotional damage that it has grown up with its entire life. This translates not only to its adult relationships with their peers, but also will significantly affect the relationship with their own children one day. If the courts ultimate responsibility is to protect the child’s best interest it should discontinue the act of rewarding deceptive behavior on the part of the mother. By supporting her actions it can and will often lead to much greater harm to both the individuals involved but to society as a whole. Think about it, if women were no longer able to be assured that they could benefit financially, either in the short or long term, I’m sure they would think twice about having these children which would eventually lead to the reduction of single family households. Which we all have to admit there are way too many of.

  • Lelelove02

    A very sad situation indeed. Yet, this child needs to have an advocate for her needs. Clearly this mother shows poor judgment skills and is incapable of properly raising this child without supervision. As a human being, he should not only pay child support but also get divided custody of his child! I couldn’t imagine a smaller version of myself out in the world wondering about me for the rest of their lives. If I was him I would be soo apart of that child’s life and let her see what a good parent looks like in comparison to her horrible mother. Selfish thinking always displays in behavior. That daughter will see that and separate from her mother for good.

    Again…..very sad.

  • Norclub

    In most states, the paternity of the husband is presumed if the married couple lived together. This case is silent as the position of the husband – were they living together, did the husband think the child was his? It is odd that there is no mention of her trying to get support from her legal husband.

  • yo mamma

    true but this bitch was crazyyyyyyyyyy

  • yo mamma

    true but this bitch was crazyyyyyyyyyy

  • Biggbert1

    are you insane??…is this lady your sister or something??….no way in hell this man should have to pay anything ever!!….he didnt have intercourse to keep her from getting prego…if she was bold enough to keep his sperm and inject herself to get pregnet then she is bold enough to rasie the kid all on her own…if anything she should face some kind of crimanal charges for doing such a thing…absolutly sick world we live in when a case like this has a leg to stand on in a court of law

  • Biggbert1

    are you insane??…is this lady your sister or something??….no way in hell this man should have to pay anything ever!!….he didnt have intercourse to keep her from getting prego…if she was bold enough to keep his sperm and inject herself to get pregnet then she is bold enough to rasie the kid all on her own…if anything she should face some kind of crimanal charges for doing such a thing…absolutly sick world we live in when a case like this has a leg to stand on in a court of law

  • Biggbert1

    are you insane??…is this lady your sister or something??….no way in hell this man should have to pay anything ever!!….he didnt have intercourse to keep her from getting prego…if she was bold enough to keep his sperm and inject herself to get pregnet then she is bold enough to rasie the kid all on her own…if anything she should face some kind of crimanal charges for doing such a thing…absolutly sick world we live in when a case like this has a leg to stand on in a court of law

  • Biggbert1

    are you insane??…is this lady your sister or something??….no way in hell this man should have to pay anything ever!!….he didnt have intercourse to keep her from getting prego…if she was bold enough to keep his sperm and inject herself to get pregnet then she is bold enough to rasie the kid all on her own…if anything she should face some kind of crimanal charges for doing such a thing…absolutly sick world we live in when a case like this has a leg to stand on in a court of law

  • Anonymous

    It’s not wrong at all. He should be made to pay child support. Why? Let me tell you. And let this be a lesson to other dummies that think they can get a blowjob and get off scott free with no baby.

    #1 You lay down with a fertile woman whether she is married or not, and you give her your sperm voluntarily, you have transferred all rights and ownership to said sperm to the woman. Whether she spits it out, swallows it, or spits it into a cup and inserts it with a turkey baster or her fingers is her choice. You gave it to her. You relinquished all rights to it just as if you had jacked off in your bed. If you didn’t want the woman to have the gift of your sperm, keep it to yourself.

    #2 She is not mentally ill. He is mentally deficient. He had plans for himself which his genitals conveniently made him forget. The fact that he has a child is no one’s fault but his. Had he kept his stuff and his sperm to himself, he wouldn’t be in this situation. He made a choice to pull it out, get it hard, and put it in her mouth and hands. That was all his own doing.

    #3 Once you give up your sperm, your eggs, your money, your blood – you have no right to decide what is done with it. It goes to whoever for whatever. We all know that. It would be like donating blood at the blood bank and then saying “but I don’t want any women to use my blood!” or “but I don’t want any Black people to use my blood!” You gave it and all power to manipulate, control, dispose of, use for their own personal benefit or the benefit of others, at their sole discretion.

    #4 Men who think they are slick and attempt to use women for sex and walk off scott free should pay attention to this. This should serve as a lesson to other men. Like I said, if you don’t want any babies from a woman that you are not married to, you need to practice the Kep It In Your Pants Birth Control Method!

    This video explains it in great detail
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvUjWNjV2xc&feature=channel_video_title

  • Chocolate.

    really, you believe that disillusioned response. Oral sex..in that form cannot get a woman pregnant..if she swallowed..or spit it out.. there is no sense of impregnating a woman by depositing sperm in her mouth for her to then transfer it herself..he may as well have had formal intercourse that is actual vaginal penetration with her. “He” giving it to her was in her mouth, was he supposed to make sure she spit it out or swallowed.. and how about you address the real problem.. DECEPTION.. she knew all along that this was her plan and didn’t notify him..”Hey if you ejaculate in my mouth I would use it to impregnate myself”.. if she did and he said ok..then fine.. You need your head checked..maybe you might be that type of person to do something like that.. even from looking at both sides of the fence you cannot in all “good” reason side with a anyone..female or male who would intentionally get someone pregnant for their sole benefit…. F()$$_$ that.

  • Chocolate

    yes she didn’t rape him but does sperm in your mouth qualify as being property to insert in “you know where”.. plllllueeeezzeee ..spare me the Bs.

  • chocolate

    the point of this particular story is .. when is it ever ok to take sperm from you “mouth” from oral sex and insert into your vagina ? if she notified him that hey I’m going to do this with the sperm..”Do you mind?” and he said yes. ..fine.. this focus on the child is “bs” because you’re not going to give up your time or money to take care of this child are you? Would YOU have taken sperm from oral sex and impregnate yourself? .. The law should protect the man on a case by case basis.. this won’t go for every single guy that said it was oral..but at no point in this story did it state he lied and they had actual intercourse without protection and he is using oral as a cover.. It was oral sex, umm when last did anyone actually (not from transferring) get pregnant from having sperm in their mouth..even if she swallowed… that would definitely warrant a front page posting.

  • Chocolate

    really… well one definitely knows no intimate contact with you right.. you actually believe what you wrote to be of some real value.. ORAL SEX, ORAL SEX, he disposed of his semen in her “mouth”, unless you can provide reference where any woman has gotten pregnant (not from transferring) but just from sperm in your their mouth.. then please provide that link… There was nothing to suggest using her.. 1. She was still married.. “Trifling” and lied..let us focus on that.. and then “engaged” to him at the same time she was still married…humm.. maybe if he had known this fact in advance he wouldn’t have even participated in any aspect with her, left her alone and not “trapped” by this …”Trap” that she is…..I’m one to surely engage in some oral with my fiancée…nothing wrong with that…but she can’t be married to someone else at the same time… she then isn’t my “Fiancée” but whatever makes you sleep at night…

  • Reggie19523

    Should have claimed sperm napping. Or claimed sperm insanity. This woman was so desperate pay her that cheap child support and move on. When the system sees that women are making too much money they will go after them in the form of disease or draconian laws its just a matter of time.

  • Anonymous

    Bottom line, you all are assuming that this MAN is not lying. Her court
    documents report that they had regular, good old fashioned vaginal sex and
    he is lying about the oral sex and not knowing that his semen was deposited
    near her fertile eggs. Of course news reports glorify HIS position that she
    did it orally and behind his back. Bottom line though, not one of us was
    there in the bed with them! We will never know how it happened. All we DO
    know is that DNA proved that he was the father and so he is paying child
    support, as per the laws established in this nation… BY MEN. :D

  • Dulcechica2891

    My friend told me that he read a story about how a woman and man had sex together. The man was wearing a condom. The man came inside of the condom. The man pulls out, and puts the condom in the garbage can. The woman secretly gets out the condom, takes the semen and puts in inside of her body and becomes pregnant. This shows us that a man should always put the money shot in a toilet and flush it. Always destroy the evidence.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hal-McCombs/100001473923464 Hal McCombs

    Men don’t cheat – women cheat.  At least that’s been the case in MY life.
    ALL of the cheating has been by women, so I’ll use your logic and state categorically that
    only women cheat (and it doesn’t matter if they were “pleasured” or not.)

  • Missrakeis

    Even if he would have worn a condom her crazy a** probably would have gone through the trash and tried the same thing. The lesson here is don’t deal with people sexually unless you are sure you want a child with them.

  • http://twitter.com/Brookekinghair Brooke King

    This is the most heinous act a woman has ever done. She showed she was deceptive by saying she was divorced when she wasn’t. I have never felt so ashamed to even be slightly associated with the female gender as I am at this moment. If this sociopath wanted a kid that bad than she should of kept it to herself for eternity. This is how woman get a free ride. People can argue the money is for the child but often  women like her are going to get facelifts and trips to the Caribbean.
     The kid will feel abandoned by the father and then probably will end up with so many emotional problems she will need years of therapy. I wonder if the child support is going toward a therapy fund because that is what this kid is going to need when she finds out what a crazy wench her mother is. Not to mention the story she will have of her conception. “Oh I was conceived with a turkey baster after my mother gave my father head and used me as a mouthwash.” Just asinine!   

  • http://twitter.com/Brookekinghair Brooke King

    This is the most heinous act a woman has ever done. She showed she was deceptive by saying she was divorced when she wasn’t. I have never felt so ashamed to even be slightly associated with the female gender as I am at this moment. If this sociopath wanted a kid that bad than she should of kept it to herself for eternity. This is how woman get a free ride. People can argue the money is for the child but often  women like her are going to get facelifts and trips to the Caribbean.
     The kid will feel abandoned by the father and then probably will end up with so many emotional problems she will need years of therapy. I wonder if the child support is going toward a therapy fund because that is what this kid is going to need when she finds out what a crazy wench her mother is. Not to mention the story she will have of her conception. “Oh I was conceived with a turkey baster after my mother gave my father head and used me as a mouthwash.” Just asinine!   

  • http://twitter.com/Brookekinghair Brooke King

    This is the most heinous act a woman has ever done. She showed she was deceptive by saying she was divorced when she wasn’t. I have never felt so ashamed to even be slightly associated with the female gender as I am at this moment. If this sociopath wanted a kid that bad than she should of kept it to herself for eternity. This is how woman get a free ride. People can argue the money is for the child but often  women like her are going to get facelifts and trips to the Caribbean.
     The kid will feel abandoned by the father and then probably will end up with so many emotional problems she will need years of therapy. I wonder if the child support is going toward a therapy fund because that is what this kid is going to need when she finds out what a crazy wench her mother is. Not to mention the story she will have of her conception. “Oh I was conceived with a turkey baster after my mother gave my father head and used me as a mouthwash.” Just asinine!   

  • Boohoo71

    This is the most heinous act a woman has ever done. She showed she was deceptive by saying she was divorced when she wasn’t. I have never felt so ashamed to even be slightly associated with the female gender as I am at this moment. If this sociopath wanted a kid that bad than she should of kept it to herself for eternity. This is how woman get a free ride. People can argue the money is for the child but often  women like her are going to get facelifts and trips to the Caribbean.
     The kid will feel abandoned by the father and then probably will end up with so many emotional problems she will need years of therapy. I wonder if the child support is going toward a therapy fund because that is what this kid is going to need when she finds out what a crazy wench her mother is. Not to mention the story she will have of her conception. “Oh I was conceived with a turkey baster after my mother gave my father head and used me as a mouthwash.” Just asinine!   

  • turdflusher

    The law is a ass and bitches suck. use whores. cheaper.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RJZZQQHP5INFRVP3AENFRQ4YFI Louie

    I disagree. Women can tell men all day long “you play you pay for 18 years”. But if a man wants the child a woman is aborting, why do we not have a right to say, “you play you pay for 9 months”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kodei-Howyadoin-Sears/573698091 Kodei Howyadoin Sears

    I have to disagree, mainly due to the fact that we had severely seperate childhoods. At 4, my mother walked out on my dad (after cheating on him several times), then proceeded to request child custody (and won) as well as child support (also won). The courts gave her custody because they believe children “need their mother”, neglecting the fact that adultery was at hand. She is still with the man that she cheated on my father with, and my dad is lucky if he gets to see his children for 3 weeks out of the year, no matter how much we beg to see him. I still hear comments “if a man cheats on a woman, he’s a pig. but if a woman cheats on a man he drove her to it”. Everytime i hear it i want to burn down a courthouse, but yet again, fighting corruption seems to be illegal, for anyone with a penis anyways.
    Pertaining to the case at hand, this woman unlawfully used this mans property without his consent, and the man gets to pay for her misdeed. This is like if someone stole a knife from my kitchen and severely injured someone, leaving me to deal with the lawsuit. I dont care if the childs needs need to be met more than the womans wrongs, adoption is always an option. I regret being forced to live with a b**** my entire life, custody reasonably should have gone to my father, but female rights supercede mens these days, in all aspects of law. It appears the courts feel the need to “make up” for wrongs against equality done by our fore fathers, but in another couple hundred years will they decide “ok, we’re even now” or will women, as men before us with their pride, not want to take their pussies off the pedistol.

  • http://twitter.com/ShahMHussain Shah M. Hussain

    absurd n biased LAws!!!

    why blame it on the Innocent Man?? why does only he has to keep it in his pants??
    Can she not keep her leges closed?? have all our women so pathetic?? 
    SAD feminism is not just scr3wing up America but the whole world!!
    Learn to keep you legs closed Sl*twalkers ! blaming any and everything on innocent men all the time will not win u any respect or equality, you rather need to earn it the right way like any other men !
    PERIOD!!

  • Craig Martin

    So if a man is given a drink laced with thorazine and passes out and a woman or 10, or 20 of them decide to slam a needle into his balls and extract semen and use THAT then he is on the hook for child support also.  According to this it doesn’t matter how the semen gets into the woman she is entitled to a payday once it’s there thus creating a financial incentive to do just what I described above (outrageous as it sounds).  How about we treat women the same way on this for a little while.  From now on any woman who is raped shall be forced to conceive the child and give it to the rapist then pay him child support under threat of prison.  It’s for the children after all.  No adoption either because he has a “right to choose”.  Would that sit well?  

  • Craig Martin

    So if a man is given a drink laced with thorazine and passes out and a woman or 10, or 20 of them decide to slam a needle into his balls and extract semen and use THAT then he is on the hook for child support also.  According to this it doesn’t matter how the semen gets into the woman she is entitled to a payday once it’s there thus creating a financial incentive to do just what I described above (outrageous as it sounds).  How about we treat women the same way on this for a little while.  From now on any woman who is raped shall be forced to conceive the child and give it to the rapist then pay him child support under threat of prison.  It’s for the children after all.  No adoption either because he has a “right to choose”.  Would that sit well?  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phillip-Galey/100000196824224 Phillip Galey

    Like Clinton’s:  ”One thing I want to make clear to the American people, I did not have sex with that woman.”—if fellatio isn’t an act of sex, I wouldn’t know how it might be correctly categorized, but, it is having sex, and he did have sex with Monica L.—y’all are in rationalizations which appear as rather small, mere, cheap, powerless and false:  for, regardless of what a mere stated intent might have been, or of what he wanted, or of what he thought that, she thought, the supervening fact remains, he gave it to her—ga-a-a-ve, . . . he gave it to her.

    Can deceit play a part in what romance is all about, as say, “All’s fair in love and war.”?  Well sure, . . . you might re-read the story of Judah and Tamar, ending where he admits to her that, for her deceit:  ”You have been more righteous than I.”, . . . and read that also, in Malachi where says:  ”For this cause He brought them together male and female, that, they might have children.”—he’s a doctor, . . . and in the presumption against him, well knew he, what messing around with a woman was all about, . . . and for all of this?  The simplest common sense?  He takes it t’court?  The good doctor strikes me as a educated kind of fool, . . .

  • Anonymous

    It may seem wrong but the willingness to give up semen in a woman’s mouth is a gift.  You gave up a part of yourself willingly.  A woman’s mouth being used as a form of birth control is sick.  I’ve suck dick before however never was willing to do this route.  He should have used a condom.  I would preform the same method if sperm was so easily given up in that way.  Men have to think for them selves.  WHY is her mouth used in the first place?  He should have pull out like most men, condom, surgery if he never wanted kids.  But really shouldn’t he had used protection?  We can all agree and disagree on the matter of her pregnancy method but none the less a majority of women want to get pregnant one day.  Clock is ticking and having patience is hard.  Her method may have been extreme but he gave it up willingly point blank.  If Suck You Penis, Can you offer me the white coconut filling as a gift!!!!  Sucking for free, PRICELESS….There are somethings money can’t buy, for everything else there is SPERM….

    But on a serious note, I would do the same thing however the child support part would have been not necessary.  I would have wanted a baby that bad and would take care the child alone.  May not even tell the father about the child, if very desperate.

  • bdkalltheway1956

    Sperm only live a few minutes outside the body unless flash frozen in liquid nitrogen, and for her to get pregnant with it a physician would have to inseminate her using special instruments. I don’t believe this story no matter how many references it’s taken from. This sounds like a new twist on an urban legend story I read about one time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/E-Cig-Guy/100000376956199 E-Cig Guy

     Amen Louie!!!

    I”m pro choice, the choice to decide before the deed, not after.

  • max holden

    She is WAY more of a slut than he is. Did you forget she lied about being divorced?  She is a terrible person who conned a man. Oral sex is protection against pregnancy. She  lied to and manipulated him to get child support she should not win her own games.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamie-Keating/100003401353661 Jamie Keating

    i never new that sperm could live long eought in someone mouth  to get someone pregeant.

  • Anonymous

    I agree that this sort of thing is a disgrace to society. How can anybody do this to somebody else? If you want a baby so badly, you should go to a sperm bank or adopt. It’s the reasonable thing to do. How can women who trick men into getting them pregnant sleep at night? Do they ever stop to think of the burden and hardship they are placing on men? My boyfriend got duped into fathering a child. The woman was 30 and jealous that her sister had a baby and she didn’t. She said she was on the pill. Of course my boyfriend was an idiot for trusting her, but it’s sad to think somebody would lie about such a thing. They had a two night stand. She told him she was pregnant. When he begged for  an abortion, she said no. He offered to get married since it wasn’t right to bring a child into this world under stuch circumstances, and she said no. She said she didn’t care what he thought or what he wanted, but this is what she wanted and she would have the baby and he would pay. She never compromised with him and just asked for more and more money. She claims she needs day care when she barters child care with family and friends and lives at home with her parents. My boyfriend felt so demoralized that he didn’t think he would be able to be a positive part of his daughter’s life knowing he hated her mother so much. He now has to pay a ton of money every month to a terrible woman. Something needs to be done to stop woman from doing this. I believe that legal documents should be signed prior to the birth of the child that says that you are a willing participant in this birth or after paternity is determined. If not, you shouldn’t have to pay support or at least it should be a set amount of support. My boyfriend makes a good lviing and has to pay way more money than any single child should need. YOu know this woman is collecting money and probably not spending all of it on the child. The amount of money given should be equal to the amount states deem appropriate for foster care and not a penny more. This might stop women from looking for a free paycheck. It’s is just so sad that things have come to this. I think we should try to get custody of the child because who wants a mother with such poor morals raising a little human being, but the reality is that court’s will almost always side wth the mother. Then the mother can be a pain about visitation. As far as I know, there is little enforcement. The system is very unjust and needs to be changed. What can we do?






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