From Virginia Governor Timothy M. Kaine’s new press release Governor Kaine Announces 2008 Legislative Initiatives on Domestic and Sexual Violence (1/2/08):
“The Violence Against Women Act of 2005 also prohibits law enforcement officers from asking or requiring a victim of an alleged sex offense to submit to a polygraph examination as a condition for proceeding with the investigation of such an offense…
“In 2004, the Department of Criminal Justice Services conducted a survey of sexual Assault policies of law enforcement agencies. A little over 72% of respondents indicated that they sometimes performed polygraph exams on victims of sexual assault. Only 14.6% indicated that they never asked a victim to submit to a polygraph exam.
“The Governor’s proposed legislation would prohibit law enforcement officers, prosecutors, or other government officials from asking or requiring a victim of an alleged sex offense to submit to a polygraph examination, limiting the use of polygraph tests to those victims who specifically request them.”
In this news article Kaine (pictured) says, “We don’t do that with other crimes. Why would we do that routinely in a sexual assault?”
A few points:
1) I don’t know anything about how effective polygraph tests are, and Kaine is correct in his concern for further traumatizing rape victims. On the other hand, it is interesting that police use polygraphs far more for sexual assault cases than for other crimes.
One reason is probably that these crimes are often more intimate and less likely to have witnesses. But another reason is probably that the officers, through their own experiences, have seen that false accusations of sexual assault are much more common than false accusations of other crimes. Feminists insist that false rape claims are not any more common than false claims of other crimes.
To learn more about the prevalence of false accusations of rape, see my recent column U. of Maryland right to deny protesters a forum to publicly name alleged rapists, (Baltimore Sun, 10/15/07).
2) It is interesting that VAWA prohibits police from “asking or requiring a victim of an alleged sex offense to submit to a polygraph examination as a condition for proceeding with the investigation of such an offense.” For one, there’s a big difference between “asking” and “requiring.” I can understand feminist concern over requiring. On the other hand, their opposition to even asking is yet another example of feminists’ utter lack of concern over false rape allegations.
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daveinga said,
can’t release her name
can’t look at her past, as to whether she did this sort of thing before
can’t prosecute her for lying. oh yeah, they have recently started charging known liars w/ filing a false report. yeah, that’s a real deterrent
i’ve heard if she knows how to work the system she can actually get federal and state funds for victim recovery?
she can claim whatever and the man is considered guilty as charged and must prove his innocence
many places have no drop policies about these type charges
he didn’t call me next morning - RAPE
she had something to drink - RAPE
he lied to her - RAPE
just about anything she doesn’t like - RAPE
heck, why not. no penalty for lying. just ask the Duke guys.
January 5, 2008 at 7:09 pm
amfortas said,
Burglary is usually not witnessed either, and pretty intimate too, but can you imagine an Insurance Co deliberately failing to investigate whether it occurred or not? They are rigourous in investigating the complainant, ensuring that they aren’t faking, ensuring that was is said to be stolen really existed in the first place and was owned by the ‘victim’. Woe betide the fakers, the false claimants. They go after them like Hounds. Insurance companies demand prosecutions, taking court action themselves if even a slight doubt exists.
Why?
Money.
Premiums in as much a possible: Payouts carefully justified, else profits suffer.
Maybe women once they reach 14, say, should pay for rape insurance.
Premiums are a good way to deter women from lying. The more there are false accusations, the higher the premiums go up. All women suffer for the lies of the false accusers. Let them bring pressure on the miscreants.
Let the insurance policies cover various scenarios. “Sorry Missy, your premium doesn’t cover changing your mind half-way through sex and clause 18, subsection 9 specifically voids the policy if you get a man to buy you a drink. Oh, he was a stranger and offered the drink did he? You didn’t tick the indiscriminate sex with anyone after just meeting them in a bar for the first time within the last half-hour box. Oh, and clause 14 subsection 2 requires you to call the police within 2 minutes and take a polygraph.”
January 5, 2008 at 7:52 pm
tom of covent garden said,
January 5, 2008 at 10:59 pm
college activist said,
well, we can make a damn good start by at least charging her with filing a false report.( like most other countries in the civilised world).
January 5, 2008 at 11:44 pm
college activist said,
January 5, 2008 at 11:46 pm
daveinga said,
second - you could make rape laws reflect some sort of common sense and sanity. right now the courts are so busy trying to appease the feminist crazy ideas of what is right for women only, everybody else gets trampled while the judges scurry around trying to figure out which woman’s butt to kiss. justice ? that only seems to apply to women’s causes. men do hard time, women hardly ever do time.
our system of laws demands justice. w/o it, we are no better than a pack of dogs, biting at each others heels.
January 6, 2008 at 8:23 pm