Jane Fonda, Alan Colmes and The Inane Liberal Mindset
Last night, while watching Hannity & Colmes, I resisted the temptation of throwing something at the television set. I’ve heard, consistently, from many conservatives who know him, that Alan is “really a nice guy”. Maybe so. But, his comments continue to be consistently absurd, mindless, immature, idiotic, perplexing and too many other adjectives defining ‘ludicrous’ to list here. One of his Wednesday comments, however, took the proverbial cake.
Engaged in a conversation with Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, regarding Jane Fonda and her new book, the inevitable subject of Fonda’s Viet Nam war atrocities came up in the discussion. Please bear in mind that North not only had first-hand experience in Viet Nam but, knows this war backward, forward, inside and out. North brought up Fonda’s many treasonous actions, during the war and her comments and actions against the US were myriad. One of these that North brought up still has the ability to elicit the strongest of emotions from our Viet Nam veterans. On one of her trips to Viet Nam, where she sided with the enemy Viet Cong against the US and our troops, US prisoners believed they might have some hope…if they could just get messages to Fonda.
Having no idea that Fonda had become a communist-plant, our fathers, sons and husbands managed (at great cost personal to them and the risk of sacrificing their lives if they were caught) to get handwritten messages to Fonda. In their messages, our soldiers begged her to get their information back to the states. They were valiantly trying to get the true story of their imprisonment and torture back to the American people. However, instead of taking the messages home with her, Fonda turned them over to our prisoners’ Viet Cong captors. This resulted in even more severe torture and even death for our troops. Hanoi Jane had accomplished her job well.
Now comes the “kicker”. In response to North’s comments, Colmes (in his inimitable condescending fashion) had the impudence to say: “If we can forgive George Bush for his youthful indiscretions, maybe we can forgive Jane Fonda.” What??? Colmes is comparing Fonda’s treason and her directly causing the torture and death of American citizens to President Bush’s former “youthful indiscretions” with alcohol? Good grief! Does Alan even bother to take his mind with him, when he leaves his home each day? This reflects yet more liberal insanity and a gross lack of mental acumen. At its very best, this comment reflects a badly failing intellect. It is, also, one of the best examples of the way liberals think and, most likely, the reason why they fight against the death penalty for mass murderers yet saw no problem with Terri Schiavo’s forced euthanasia and support the abortion of babies. Most liberals are lunatics who do not appear to possess the ability for rational thought. Colmes’ comment is but another glaring example of their malady. This is, also, another illustration of why they must no longer be elected…to anything. Irrationality and stupidity are not prime qualifications for public office.
Engaged in a conversation with Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, regarding Jane Fonda and her new book, the inevitable subject of Fonda’s Viet Nam war atrocities came up in the discussion. Please bear in mind that North not only had first-hand experience in Viet Nam but, knows this war backward, forward, inside and out. North brought up Fonda’s many treasonous actions, during the war and her comments and actions against the US were myriad. One of these that North brought up still has the ability to elicit the strongest of emotions from our Viet Nam veterans. On one of her trips to Viet Nam, where she sided with the enemy Viet Cong against the US and our troops, US prisoners believed they might have some hope…if they could just get messages to Fonda.
Having no idea that Fonda had become a communist-plant, our fathers, sons and husbands managed (at great cost personal to them and the risk of sacrificing their lives if they were caught) to get handwritten messages to Fonda. In their messages, our soldiers begged her to get their information back to the states. They were valiantly trying to get the true story of their imprisonment and torture back to the American people. However, instead of taking the messages home with her, Fonda turned them over to our prisoners’ Viet Cong captors. This resulted in even more severe torture and even death for our troops. Hanoi Jane had accomplished her job well.
Now comes the “kicker”. In response to North’s comments, Colmes (in his inimitable condescending fashion) had the impudence to say: “If we can forgive George Bush for his youthful indiscretions, maybe we can forgive Jane Fonda.” What??? Colmes is comparing Fonda’s treason and her directly causing the torture and death of American citizens to President Bush’s former “youthful indiscretions” with alcohol? Good grief! Does Alan even bother to take his mind with him, when he leaves his home each day? This reflects yet more liberal insanity and a gross lack of mental acumen. At its very best, this comment reflects a badly failing intellect. It is, also, one of the best examples of the way liberals think and, most likely, the reason why they fight against the death penalty for mass murderers yet saw no problem with Terri Schiavo’s forced euthanasia and support the abortion of babies. Most liberals are lunatics who do not appear to possess the ability for rational thought. Colmes’ comment is but another glaring example of their malady. This is, also, another illustration of why they must no longer be elected…to anything. Irrationality and stupidity are not prime qualifications for public office.

30 Comments:
Another example of "Alan the foil". I can't stand him either.
Proud Texas
It is rather loose rationalization. But I don't think right and wrong even enters the mind of moral relativists as they have no established good and evil. Whatever is popular seems to be the justification. You can even see this in many "Catholic Liberals" who criticize the late John Paul II as he seemed to have more concern for obeying the Bible and the ideologies of his religion than the "progressive" ideology or what the people want justified for them since they're going to do it anyway. As for me, I'm all about justice in accordance with the constitution which means that the death sentence would be quite acceptable, and I'm sure more than the 2 necessary witnesses can be produced.
Honestly, it's quite humorous that their only defense for their treasonous celebrity is "Bush did wrong stuff, too!"
-Jake
Yep! The liberal and leftist mentality says an apple is an orange is a car is a house is a serial killer is a euthanasia doctor is a disabled person is an unborn child. Everything equals everything else. They're NUTS!!!
Tom S
Colmes suffers from 'hoof in mouth' disease.
"Hoof in mouth?" Hilarious! I hadn't heard that expression before. I do have to say the fact that Fox employs someone as incompetent as Colmes to balance out the more coherent Hannity is the best evidence liberals have that Fox is right-wing biased.
-Jake
Most prominent liberals have no "core" as conservatives consider it. Thus one can make quantum leaps like Colmes did with North. When one has a belief system and worldview that is based on fact and not a fluid ideology as are the libs, one can make definitive positions and defend them based on fact not feelings. But as the old saying goes, "ignorance is bliss", even if you have to ignore all the evidence around you
"But as the old saying goes, "ignorance is bliss", even if you have to ignore all the evidence around you."
Then, the liberals must be a VERY blissful bunch! Wonder why they're so enraged, most of the time...
Proud Texas
I saw this show and heard what Alan said. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT! Thanks for writing what I was thinking.
Jeff Strong
Jeff
You're welcome.
--Sher
Texas, I think they take it beyond true ignorance. An ignorant person doesn't have to ignore anyone, because no one is attempting to shatter their illusion. When people start trying to inform you of things you don't want to hear and you purposefully ignore them (Or repeat rhyming mantra and call people racists) you pass into willful denial. I haven't really met anyone in willful denial that was ever very happy. But that's just my own experience.
-Jake
That traitor Jane Fonda should be locked in a room and forced to watch Rhoda reruns 24/7 until she dies, but you’ve got to let go of the Terri Schiavo case. I can understand a person’s personal opposition to it, but most Federalists and the majority of Conservatives just don’t agree with you. A free society will die if government is allowed to decide morality, that responsibility must rest with the people.
You got that right, Jake. Over the years, I've noticed that the only time the left seems to get energized is when they talk about aborting kids, protest the death penalty for convicted murderers or chant in favor of starving the disabled to death. Anything that helps evil becomes one of their causes. But, if it helps good, they ignore it, fight against it or tell us it never existed anyway. They're not just unhappy and sick, they're dangerous...
Proud Texas
Liberals should consider themselves lucky there isn't a bounty on stupidity. Ronn P. Northern California
Well said, ronn p!
Jeff
My understanding is that the particular story of her turning in the notes to the captors is false, and snopes.com agrees with that. For those of us who didn't see the show, did Oliver North tell the story, or is that part of your own commentary?
The story in Snopes is incorrect and the stories of the prisoners handing notes to Fonda is true. There are several DVDs, made by former Viet Nam vets (one which I believe was funded by those supporting the Swift Boat Vets), in which they tell their stories of this particlar incident in graphic detail. I have, personally, viewed one of their DVDs.
"My understanding is that the particular story of her turning in the notes to the captors is false, and snopes.com agrees with that. For those of us who didn't see the show, did Oliver North tell the story, or is that part of your own commentary?"
I saw the show too, bud. Lieutenant Colonel North brought it up. He should and does know what happened in the Viet Nam war.
Proud Texas
I just finished looking at the Snopes.com site. The only story I could find on Fonda is one where she and Ted Turner were supposedly denied service at a restaurant owned by a Viet Nam vet. Snopes says it's false. But, I found NOTHING at Snopes.com about the messages passed to her by POWs. Maybe it's been removed???
Inquiring Mind-
One additional item. If I was incorrect, regarding the "notes", I am not so arrogant as to not admit it when I've made a mistake. I'm still awaiting the DVD title and will let any and all know. Thanks.
Well said sher. Liberals are nuts. But,
never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
Sadly, America is under relentless attack on many fronts. On the outside we face Islamofascists determined to hit us hard to kill many American's here in the U.S.. We have ungrateful 'allies' lacking backbones. We face a huge economic upheaval especially for the middle class by the challenges of cheap labor in India, China (not to mention a loss of R&D, patent protections). We are extending ourselves much like Britain prior to WWII with numerous and expensive global responsibilities while our competitors (who have no such responsibilities) pose ever greater threats militarily as well as economically. Inside America we have a country where feminism (Stalinist Socialism) is destroying the family, the culture, and the middle class with endlesss give-aways and privileges.
And the people who have done the most to leave a huge trail of wreakage on this country are the liberals.
They have no solutions. They have been the source of most problems the last 40+ years. Their only agenda is to oppose any changes to the dangerous status quo.
never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
Jesus, this wasn't that hard to find. Jane pulled a bunch of shit over there, but she never took any notes and turned them over to the VC.
Here's a clue, never believe any forwarded email, lest you agree GWB is legally retarded and Bill Gates will write you a check for trying out a new email program.
http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp
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First off I agree that Fox News should have looked a little harder to find a co-host for Hannity. Secondly, I’d like to go on record here as saying I believe Jane Fonda is a traitor to the U.S.A. (My humble opinion on both counts)
As to the alleged note passing by Hanoi Jane, I did a little research of my own in preparation for an entry in my own blog. I got in contact with Mike McGrath who is the historian for the NAM-POWs. McGrath knows the gentlemen (Larry Carrigan, Jerry Driscoll) mentioned in the scores of e-rumors about the alleged note passing scandal. Both of these men were long time POWs in North Vietnam and both say they never even saw Fonda during their stays.
Did it happen? Perhaps, but not to the people the stories claim it did. If anyone has hard proof of it please drop me a line. This story fascinates me. We need not spread propaganda to prove our point on this issue. Jane did plenty on the public record to show her treachery. (once again, my humble opinion)
Here’s a pretty good breakdown as to what is true and untrue in one of the most popular e-rumors on the subject.
Mike:
I'm not sure to what you're referring, RE: "This post has been removed by the author". Your message appears to have posted. It may have been a temporary problem with blogger.com. It happens from time to time...
I was just letting you know about my posts above the one I left on. In case you wanted to permanently delete them to reduce the clutter caused by my incompetence....lol
Not to worry! Blogger.com sometimes strikes, unexpectedly. Again, welcome aboard.
allright, FOX is unfair...
i cant stand anymore of this conservative crap
open wide!
first of all, jake your insane use of the term "Catholic Liberals" only makes you sound more stupid then you probably are already. Just because someone is liberal does not mean that the have no morals. And as for the Hannity suck-up that you are, I'll have you know that yes your very own god Sean Hannity called the late Pope John Paul II a "liberal looney" because he endorsed the aspect of science in religion. (Something you should think about)
Next.. Tom S, your just retarded. To ASSume that liberals believe everything is the same is stupid. We, on the other hand, believe that everybody should have equal rights, not that all thing are equal!
Chris. first of all, don't state a liberal reference. The saying goes "Ignorance is Strength". It comes from one of the greatest books ever written, 1984. Read it sometime, it will be odd how the plot is the exact "core" of conservatives. It outlines exaclty what would happen if conservatives hold power for much longer.
AND REMEMBER BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!
hey anonymous,
if you belive: "A free society will die if government is allowed to decide morality" then why are you a conservative?
And finally, all you retards who think liberals are against america and anti-patriotic need to be "put to sleep." nothing could be farther from the truth! We are not anti america just pro-freedom. Instead of keeping America on this cloud above everything else is wrong, liberals are determined to question enemies at HOME (the Bush Admin.) and abroad. If you all can't see that, well there is something seriously wrong with you.
A texan... a blue texan
(you probably never would have guessed)
Fonda got raped by your propagandist government's foreign policy just like every other historical
...figure.
I'll tell you what: just drop the democracy, hand Bush his declaration of martial law and go all out fundamentalist. The rest of the world will send you a sculpture or a scrap of literature every now and then in exchange for an agreement to your pre-war isolationist policy
Seriously, I read through these forums just to relish the collective stupidity of right wing E-merica.
Thank you for sharing :-)
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